Donaldson Aug 31 Trade Thread

[Carlos Danger]

Jenifer Langosch

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@LangoschMLB

Mozeliak said he doesn't anticipate the #STLCards making an acquisition before the end of the day.

 

5:23 PM - Aug 31, 2018

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At this late stage they would have to be exchanging medicals. For the GM to say he doesn't expect anything at 5:30 pm.. Leaves me in doubt.

 

I could see AA come in and take a flyer. I anticipated him going after JD anyway..

[Spanky__99]

I'm hearing JD has been traded to the Cardinals.

 

 

Source: 4thOFfan

 

He's been on point lately, even if he's a steaming pile of s*** Bosox fan.

[jays4life19]

He's been on point lately, even if he's a steaming pile of s*** Bosox fan.

 

Yes he has.

 

That's why he's my inside source now. Hopefully he doesn't do me dirty on this one, my rep is on the line.

[Carlos Danger]

Traded to Cardinals

 

Ben C, is that you? Welcome to the Board

[4thOFan]

Yes he has.

 

That's why he's my inside source now. Hopefully he doesn't do me dirty on this one, my rep is on the line.

 

Different source this time, though. I'm not as confident as the trade deadline. We'll see..

[FrozenRopes]

How bad a situation do you have to be in to pick up a walk year injury prone 3B? STL does not seem like that organization. Cleveland could but why move the MVP (Ramirez) to a new position for the last month of the year?

 

I think JD stays and things get weird.

[BTS]

How bad a situation do you have to be in to pick up a walk year injury prone 3B? STL does not seem like that organization. Cleveland could but why move the MVP (Ramirez) to a new position for the last month of the year?

 

I think JD stays and things get weird.

 

It's going to be for 1-2 guys at the back end of some team's top-20 prospect list. Pretty decent gamble for a playoff team.

[glory]

It's going to be for 1-2 guys at the back end of some team's top-20 prospect list. Pretty decent gamble for a playoff team.

 

I hope you’re right, but I’m thinking more one prospect who is a lotto ticket type (boom or bust).

[Carlos Danger]

It's going to be for 1-2 guys at the back end of some team's top-20 prospect list. Pretty decent gamble for a playoff team.

 

I think even that is optimistic. They have us by the nads...

[John_Havok]

I think even that is optimistic. They have us by the nads...

 

We have the asset the want, so....how is it they have us by the nads?

 

Worst case scenario, he doesn't get traded, gets offered a QO and declines, and we get a comp pick somewhere around 70 next season. If the trade off doesn't exceed the value the FO places on that comp pick, then you don't make the trade.

 

So again, how do they have us by the nads?

[Carlos Danger]

We have the asset the want, so....how is it they have us by the nads?

 

Worst case scenario, he doesn't get traded, gets offered a QO and declines, and we get a comp pick somewhere around 70 next season. If the trade off doesn't exceed the value the FO places on that comp pick, then you don't make the trade.

 

So again, how do they have us by the nads?

 

1. It seems the relationship is broken and it is out in the industry we want to get rid of him no matter what.

2. He has not proven he is healthy and not played three straight games.

3. It will cost us over $22 million if we don't trade him and he accepts the QO. (assuming we can't trade him mid-season).

4. There is a very small market who needs a 3rd baseman or DH. Who is in a playoff spot, who can assume the 4 million and can make room on the 40 man let alone 25 man. You have to activate him the minute the trade is done.

 

If I am a GM I know all this. You ask for 2 of my top 20, I say no... Go ahead and go with your off season scenario.. I will give you a 27 yr old guy in A ball.

[Spanky__99]

1. It seems the relationship is broken and it is out in the industry we want to get rid of him no matter what.

2. He has not proven he is healthy and not played three straight games.

3. It will cost us over $22 million if we don't trade him and he accepts the QO. (assuming we can't trade him mid-season).

4. There is a very small market who needs a 3rd baseman or DH. Who is in a playoff spot, who can assume the 4 million and can make room on the 40 man let alone 25 man. You have to activate him the minute the trade is done.

 

If I am a GM I know all this. You ask for 2 of my top 20, I say no... Go ahead and go with your off season scenario.. I will give you a 27 yr old guy in A ball.

 

lol

[Jonn]

This is probably the worst handled player situation in recent memory. My goodness gracious. I'm not calling for someone to get fired but someone is going to get blamed for this. After the Osuna situation was handled fairly well this is a complete disaster from a value and PR perspective.

[Jonn]

We have the asset the want, so....how is it they have us by the nads?

 

Worst case scenario, he doesn't get traded, gets offered a QO and declines, and we get a comp pick somewhere around 70 next season. If the trade off doesn't exceed the value the FO places on that comp pick, then you don't make the trade.

 

So again, how do they have us by the nads?

 

Well heres the problem they don't want to offer him the QO and he will probably accept it so they kind are forced to move him unless they want to just let him walk for nothing. Its pretty clear at this point hes not getting the QO.

[Spanky__99]

Well heres the problem they don't want to offer him the QO and he will probably accept it so they kind are forced to move him unless they want to just let him walk for nothing. Its pretty clear at this point hes not getting the QO.

 

And you know, how?

[Jonn]

And you know, how?

 

The complete desperation to trade him told me all I needed to know.

[Angrioter]

Trade Josh f***

[Spanky__99]

The complete desperation to trade him told me all I needed to know.

 

Aye... lol.

[Spanky__99]

Trade Josh f***

 

Ang your in the LOD playoffs bud, you know right?

[Carlos Danger]

You guys think this is f***ed up.. Well, because they also misjudged the market, we lost EE and have fnnn Morales.

 

IF JD stays, accepts the QO, you would have next year: Martin- $20 million, Tulo- $20 Million, JD- $18 Million and Morales $12 Million for a grand total of $ 75 million for those flaming turds apart from JD if he has a comeback year.

 

f*** me!

 

Edit to add: Unless something happens in the next few hours, we still have fnnn Granderson, and Clippard. We should have taken a bag of balls for them at the deadline. Now we have no balls..

[Spanky__99]

You guys think this is f***ed up.. Well, because they also misjudged the market, we lost EE and have fnnn Morales.

 

IF JD stays, accepts the QO, you would have next year: Martin- $20 million, Tulo- $20 Million, JD- $18 Million and Morales $12 Million for a grand total of $ 75 million for those flaming turds apart from JD if he has a comeback year.

 

f*** me!

 

lol

[Pendleton]

You guys think this is f***ed up.. Well, because they also misjudged the market, we lost EE and have fnnn Morales.

 

IF JD stays, accepts the QO, you would have next year: Martin- $20 million, Tulo- $20 Million, JD- $18 Million and Morales $12 Million for a grand total of $ 75 million for those flaming turds apart from JD if he has a comeback year.

 

f*** me!

 

I think your abacus is broken...

[Carlos Danger]

I think your abacus is broken...

 

Yes, my bad, math was never my strong suit.. $70 million... Still a f*** me!

[BTS]

You guys think this is f***ed up.. Well, because they also misjudged the market, we lost EE and have fnnn Morales.

 

IF JD stays, accepts the QO, you would have next year: Martin- $20 million, Tulo- $20 Million, JD- $18 Million and Morales $12 Million for a grand total of $ 75 million for those flaming turds apart from JD if he has a comeback year.

 

f*** me!

 

Edit to add: Unless something happens in the next few hours, we still have fnnn Granderson, and Clippard. We should have taken a bag of balls for them at the deadline. Now we have no balls..

 

Why would we want EE?

[Spanky__99]

I think your abacus is broken...

 

[Carlos Danger]

Why would we want EE?

 

My point is there seems to be a cumulative pattern of this FO misjudging the market. The only reason we have Morales, is because we f***ed up with EE in his free Agent year and he ended up going cheaper and not to us, even though he wanted to stay.

[Spanky__99]

[Carlos Danger]

6:23pm: Toronto is advising other organizations that it expects to trade Donaldson this evening, per Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (Twitter links), who adds the Indians and Astros as clubs that have recently “shown interest.”

 

6:07pm: The Yankees are in on Donaldson but could only take on around half his remaining salary, Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets. MLB Network Radio’s Steve Phillips had connected the New York organization to Donaldson, via Twitter, while also listing the Cards, Phillies, and Braves as teams still engaged in discussions with Toronto.

[Spanky__99]

:eek:

[Spanky__99]

JD's leaking info to f*** the value?