Jays are interested in Chris Tillman

[Shart]

I saw on Twitter the Jays are interested in Tillman. He's be a good bounce-back candidate.

[AledmysDiaz]

List the factors based on why he is a good bounce back candidate

[BTS]

yuck

[Brownie19]

List the factors based on why he is a good bounce back candidate

 

averaged 2.1 WAR per year between 2013 and 2016. If his shoulder is healthy again and he's dirt cheap on a 1 year deal (or better yet a minor league deal) than sure.

[AledmysDiaz]

His fastball is down to 91. He was a below average pitcher at 93. Now he is down to 91.

 

This is a minor league spring training invite at best. I would reckon he should take that with the Orioles where he has a far better chance of making the rotation

[Orgfiller]

Nooooooooo

 

Also link? People on Twitter say things all the time, is it from a verified source?

[Deadpool]

Meh, minor league deal with an invite to spring training, why the f*** not? But no way I want him on a guaranteed MLB contract.

[Ray]

Meh, minor league deal with an invite to spring training, why the f*** not? But no way I want him on a guaranteed MLB contract.

 

If we can get him for bullpen money, why not. Throw $3M at him and see if he can give you a bunch of starts of 4.5 ERA from the 5th rotation spot. If he's not good, cut him or move him to the bullpen.

[Shart]

Nooooooooo

 

Also link? People on Twitter say things all the time, is it from a verified source?

Jon Morosi tweeted it.

[Dick_Pole]

Wade Davis sucked all kinds of balls as a starter before being converted to a reliever. If you can get these Tillman and Hutchison types on non-guaranteed contracts, you do it.

[jays4life19]

As mentioned above, MILB deal or no deal.

[Terminator]

He was a perfectly serviceable #4 SP from 2011-2016 but the wheels fell off last year. He'll be entering his age 30 season so maybe he can bounce back with better health. Assuming the FO knows something I don't about his health or ability to bounce back, I'd offer him as much as a major league deal on the league minimum which seems to be further than most here would go. Stretch him out in ST and then put him in the bullpen. A non-guaranteed deal would be better though.

[Brownie19]

His fastball is down to 91. He was a below average pitcher at 93. Now he is down to 91.

 

This is a minor league spring training invite at best. I would reckon he should take that with the Orioles where he has a far better chance of making the rotation

 

Stop making things up. His FB averaged 91.4 MPH between 2013 and 2016. He had a shoulder injury last year, which did drop his velocity to 90.7 (exact same as his average FB in 2014). If he's healthy again, give the guy a shot. That said, he very well could be the Jays 2018 version of Mat Latos.

[Boxcar]

List the factors based on why he is a good bounce back candidate

 

Used to be an Oriole, if he's decent we get to laugh at their fans?

 

Best reason I can think of at least.

[glory]

If Trollosi is the only one mentioning this then I doubt it has any validity.

 

If it does, then I'd be fine with a minor league deal, or a very minor big league deal (think Gavin Floyd 2016). Otherwise, pass.

[P2F]

Stop making things up. His FB averaged 91.4 MPH between 2013 and 2016. He had a shoulder injury last year, which did drop his velocity to 90.7 (exact same as his average FB in 2014). If he's healthy again, give the guy a shot. That said, he very well could be the Jays 2018 version of Mat Latos.

 

According to Pitch Info, his FB averaged 92.6 MPH from 2012-16. Was down to 91.2 last year.

[AledmysDiaz]

Stop making things up. His FB averaged 91.4 MPH between 2013 and 2016. He had a shoulder injury last year, which did drop his velocity to 90.7 (exact same as his average FB in 2014). If he's healthy again, give the guy a shot. That said, he very well could be the Jays 2018 version of Mat Latos.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5279&position=P

 

Fourseam fastball Velocity

 

2016 = 92.9

2017 = 91.3

[Shart]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5279&position=P

 

Fourseam fastball Velocity

 

2016 = 92.9

2017 = 91.3

He was injured last year with a shoulder. I fully expect him to rebound this season if healthy.

[Muck Bartinez]

In 2015-16, Tillman had FIP's of 4.45 and 4.23. Wouldn't be the worst idea to see if he can regain some velo and get back to 4.50 or under, but a MLB deal would be pretty gross.

 

By the way, his FIP's against Toronto for those same seasons were 8.62 (lol) and 4.94. 2015 was amazing when that offense was just destroying everything.

[Brownie19]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5279&position=P

 

Fourseam fastball Velocity

 

2016 = 92.9

2017 = 91.3

 

Right - I was looking at the velocities listed under "pitch type". No idea why they don't match. Point remains, he was hurt last year.

[L54]

In 2015-16, Tillman had FIP's of 4.45 and 4.23. Wouldn't be the worst idea to see if he can regain some velo and get back to 4.50 or under, but a MLB deal would be pretty gross.

 

By the way, his FIP's against Toronto for those same seasons were 8.62 (lol) and 4.94. 2015 was amazing when that offense was just destroying everything.

 

Man was that team fun. They absolutely mashed and any time it was a lefty on the mound they would destroy him.

 

Good times.

[The Iceman]

I would guess it would take minimum $6 million plus incentives to sign him. He won't be that cheap of a signing.

[Shart]

I would guess it would take minimum $6 million plus incentives to sign him. He won't be that cheap of a signing.

At that price I would pass.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

At that price I would pass.

 

Agreed !!! Why does it seem the Jays organization is afraid to Roll with the punches and take a shot on and starting some of our

Young Guns as well ! Like Dumber and Dumber to they really believe sooo

 

Your saying there’s a Chance!!!