Around Baseball 2018

[BTS]

Well I see I have been quoted or twittered or whatever it is called these days. I don't like that woman and I don't like her posting my comment. My comments stated that this woman's remarks were distasteful and to be truthful they only reinforce what a lot of men think about women that love sports. Do I think a woman will make the mlb? Not in my lifetime, but I can guarantee if a woman comes along that is a superstar the teams will be lined up to sign her. Of course, she will have to be a superstar. If she is just an average mlb player, she won't get a look.

 

I don't comment often, but it is not whether women can make the team, it is that if they want to play the sport they should NOT be assaulted with terms about their sexuality or their ability. They should be treated the same as any other player walking onto the field for try outs. Women or girls that have made the higher levels of any sport, do not ask for any favours. I was trying to give you an idea what it is like for a girl to face these things. And this takes nothing away from men.

 

I really believe that if a woman ever earns a place in the majors, she’d be almost universally celebrated. I think that arguing that capable women should be excluded is and and will continue to be a fringe opinion.

[leaffie]

lol. well that is ok. I have been called that before and somehow have managed to survive to my advanced age.

[Brownie19]

I really believe that if a woman ever earns a place in the majors, she’d be almost universally celebrated. I think that arguing that capable women should be excluded is and and will continue to be a fringe opinion.

 

I wonder what Goose thinks about this.

[BTS]

I wonder what Goose thinks about this.

 

lol, I can't even imagine the rage

[GreekFatAss]

I really believe that if a woman ever earns a place in the majors, she’d be almost universally celebrated. I think that arguing that capable women should be excluded is and and will continue to be a fringe opinion.

 

Biology should ensure it never happens. The professional athletes of any sports is in the 99th percentile of ability and with men having stronger athletic traits in power, speed and reaction time the sheer unlikelihood that a female will ever enter the same stratosphere is infinitesimal. Fortunately desire isn't enough to succeed in sport.

[Terminator]

I wonder what Goose thinks about this.

 

He always thought statheads were a bunch of soy boys anyway. In his mind this just confirms it.

[Terminator]

Biology should ensure it never happens. The professional athletes of any sports is in the 99th percentile of ability and with men having stronger athletic traits in power, speed and reaction time the sheer unlikelihood that a female will ever enter the same stratosphere is infinitesimal. Fortunately desire isn't enough to succeed in sport.

 

But the writers at Fangraphs long for a female slap-hitting 2B.

[BTS]

He always thought statheads were a bunch of soy boys anyway. In his mind this just confirms it.

 

Every time you use the term soy boy I want to strike you.

[Terminator]

Every time you use the term soy boy I want to strike you.

 

I could start using cuck again but I'd prefer not to.

[Dick_Pole]

If the last few pages in this thread convince a few of these wishy-washy pantywaist posters like BTS and NGH or whatever his dumbass name is now that they must vote Scheer over Trudeau and Ford over Wynne in these upcoming elections then this Ramos character is a positive in my world.

[Dick_Pole]

Every time you use the term soy boy I want to strike you.

 

I'd be more afraid of a rabbit punch or mosquito bite. Terminator, please continue using your preferred terminology.

[BTS]

D'Backs extend Ketel Marte for 5 years + two team options.

[King]

But the writers at Fangraphs long for a female slap-hitting 2B.

Ramos, on the the hand, has already conducted groundbreaking research which found that women are fully capable of playing catcher in affiliated baseball leagues. That’s because, according to Ramos’s research, the offensive bar for catchers is lower, and catcher defense — specifically pitch-framing — isn’t something men do better than women. Ramos also told me that their research shows that women could be good middle infielders in the mold of David Eckstein and Jose Altuve, who excelled despite smaller frames. And Ramos explained that female pitchers already exist who could get by in the pros throwing 83-85 mph, pointing to Jamie Moyer and Jered Weaver as examples.

 

Most importantly, Ramos told me that women players and women’s leagues simply aren’t scouted by MLB teams, largely due to a structural belief in front offices that they aren’t good enough. Simply put, explained Ramos, “these women don’t even come close to a lot of front offices’ radars.” But Ramos was emphatic when I asked them whether there are women players good enough today to play affiliated baseball, at least in the minor leagues. “Yes,” they said.

 

 

​I would love to see this research. Jered Weaver was terrible when he started throwing in the low 80s, lol.

[BTS]

Ramos, on the the hand, has already conducted groundbreaking research which found that women are fully capable of playing catcher in affiliated baseball leagues. That’s because, according to Ramos’s research, the offensive bar for catchers is lower, and catcher defense — specifically pitch-framing — isn’t something men do better than women. Ramos also told me that their research shows that women could be good middle infielders in the mold of David Eckstein and Jose Altuve, who excelled despite smaller frames. And Ramos explained that female pitchers already exist who could get by in the pros throwing 83-85 mph, pointing to Jamie Moyer and Jered Weaver as examples.

 

Most importantly, Ramos told me that women players and women’s leagues simply aren’t scouted by MLB teams, largely due to a structural belief in front offices that they aren’t good enough. Simply put, explained Ramos, “these women don’t even come close to a lot of front offices’ radars.” But Ramos was emphatic when I asked them whether there are women players good enough today to play affiliated baseball, at least in the minor leagues. “Yes,” they said.

 

 

​I would love to see this research. Jered Weaver was terrible when he started throwing in the low 80s, lol.

 

GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH

 

(we just can't show it to you)

 

Is there a woman on earth with a good enough arm to throw out an average MLB runner at 2B?

[Laika]

If the last few pages in this thread convince a few of these wishy-washy pantywaist posters like BTS and NGH or whatever his dumbass name is now that they must vote Scheer over Trudeau and Ford over Wynne in these upcoming elections then this Ramos character is a positive in my world.

 

I don’t understand why you insecure conservative faggots are obsessed with painting me as a left wing pinko.

[Terminator]

GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH

 

(we just can't show it to you)

 

Is there a woman on earth with a good enough arm to throw out an average MLB runner at 2B?

 

According to "their" research, the answer is an emphatic yes. Only the scouting patriarchy is holding these women back.

[bzapple]

Hate when people cite Jamie Moyer as a precedent to say that anyone who throws mid 80s can be a passable major league pitcher. Moyer was an incredible anomaly. It's like putting Greg Maddux comps on any prospect with a lousy fastball and good command.

[Brownie19]

Ramos, on the the hand, has already conducted groundbreaking research which found that women are fully capable of playing catcher in affiliated baseball leagues. That’s because, according to Ramos’s research, the offensive bar for catchers is lower, and catcher defense — specifically pitch-framing — isn’t something men do better than women. Ramos also told me that their research shows that women could be good middle infielders in the mold of David Eckstein and Jose Altuve, who excelled despite smaller frames. And Ramos explained that female pitchers already exist who could get by in the pros throwing 83-85 mph, pointing to Jamie Moyer and Jered Weaver as examples.

 

Most importantly, Ramos told me that women players and women’s leagues simply aren’t scouted by MLB teams, largely due to a structural belief in front offices that they aren’t good enough. Simply put, explained Ramos, “these women don’t even come close to a lot of front offices’ radars.” But Ramos was emphatic when I asked them whether there are women players good enough today to play affiliated baseball, at least in the minor leagues. “Yes,” they said.

 

 

​I would love to see this research. Jered Weaver was terrible when he started throwing in the low 80s, lol.

 

MLB scouts also discriminate against the NDBL because they assume we're all washed up, out of shape old guys who drink too much beer. I mean Tinnish came to our games and never once brought out his radar gun to see how hard I was throwing, nor did he approach me about a tryout. I'm appalled.

[Terminator]

Hate when people cite Jamie Moyer as a precedent to say that anyone who throws mid 80s can be a passable major league pitcher. Moyer was an incredible anomaly. It's like putting Greg Maddux comps on any prospect with a lousy fastball and good command.

 

All the players she mentions are bad examples. Eckstein was a good player for a few years despite his size and arm strength. He's one of a kind. Altuve too. Weaver was a joke when his fastball dipped.

[Brownie19]

D'Backs extend Ketel Marte for 5 years + two team options.

 

but...but why?

[metafour]

There isn't a female on the planet who possesses the athleticism required to play a passable middle infield. You know how fast you have to react to actually make plays on balls coming back at you at 100+ mph off the bat?

 

Also, the generalization on few pitchers who were passable with well below average velocity is among the most factually dishonest positions you can make. Guys like Moyer possessed well above average movement or other qualities which made them work. There are thousands of male pitchers who throw in the low to mid 80's who will never, ever pitch in the MLB...why? Because they aren't f***ing Jamie Moyer, and Jamie Moyer is an outlier of the greatest sense. That is like saying that just because Muggsy Bogues played in the NBA at 5'3" that what, this proves that females with their stunted height can also clearly play in the NBA?

[King]

According to "their" research, the answer is an emphatic yes. Only the scouting patriarchy is holding these women back.

It's completely absurd. How come they have done this groundbreaking research and it's no where to be found? If it were true, it would be a big deal. How does this get approved and published on Fangraphs?

 

How come no one else has asked to see the research?

[Dr. Dinger]

D'Backs extend Ketel Marte for 5 years + two team options.

 

 

[BTS]

Hate when people cite Jamie Moyer as a precedent to say that anyone who throws mid 80s can be a passable major league pitcher. Moyer was an incredible anomaly. It's like putting Greg Maddux comps on any prospect with a lousy fastball and good command.

 

That argument is so incredibly stupid and sloppy that Fangraphs should be ashamed of publishing it. For the odd pitcher who gets by in the majors at 85, there are literally tens of thousands of men who throw 85 and would get destroyed. To succeed at that velo you need elite secondary skills: a great breaking ball or change, as well as deception and probably pinpoint command.

 

What’s the probability that the hypothetical woman who can throw 85 ALSO have Kyle Hendricks’ command or Ziegler’s deceptiveness and breaking ball? It takes thousands and thousands of 85 mph men to find 1-2 with the right secondary stuff to succeed. The first woman to throw 85 will almost certainly not have these other elite skills.

Edited March 26, 2018 by BTS

[Pendleton]

GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH

 

(we just can't show it to you)

 

Is there a woman on earth with a good enough arm to throw out an average MLB runner at 2B?

 

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DKHAA3/game-between-the-milwaukee-brewers-and-the-los-angeles-dodgers-at-DKHAA3.jpg

[Terminator]

Yeah metafour and BTS make good points. 85 mph isn't even that much of an outlier for high school baseball. There are thousands of high schoolers who can do it and aren't even getting sniffed at to play low level college baseball. So just because a woman can throw 85 mph doesn't mean much. In order for it to mean something she has to throw an 85 mph baseball better than 99.9% of everyone who can throw 85.

[GreekFatAss]

There is nothing stopping a team from signing a woman now, if they were good enough or even if they were minor league quality I'm sure they would get a sniff but there hasn't been one yet.

 

I think men should try to have babies, maybe if they really feel like they can do it they can defy biology and make it happen because feelings>fact.

[King]

I'd be genuinely curious to hear Jen Mac Ramos answer all of these questions. Instead, anyone who dare question them is placing an attack.

[BTS]

 

Statcast darling

[Dr. Dinger]

Statcast darling

 

I'm aware and I don't buy it at all.