Roy Halladay dies in a Plane Crash...RIP

[Jimcanuck]

If that's true then he was a complete, unequivocal idiot. Get drugged up, get into an aircraft, PILOT the aircraft, and put everyone in harm's way so you can get a buzz while flying? Highly doubtful.

 

folks, maybe i wasnt clear enough. i was saying it is more likely he was using drugs to enhance the thrill than the idea that it was a suicide flight. both are unlikely, but the first is more plausible.

[jays4life19]

Lol @ amphetamines being in sleeping pills.

[Spanky99]

Lol @ amphetamines being in sleeping pills.

 

No, they're used to counter the effects of ambien during the day, meat!

[jays4life19]

No, they're used to counter the effects of ambien during the day, meat!

 

Oh that makes more sense.

[John_Havok]

Also, amphetamines... whether he was prescribed those drugs or not, there's no way he should have been flying a plane, lol. Idiot.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pitcher-roy-halladay-had-morphine-ambien-system-when-he-crashed-n839326

 

Trace amounts were found. If it was something prescription or even impairing there would have been a lot more than trace amounts found.

[Spanky99]

Trace amounts were found. If it was something prescription or even impairing there would have been a lot more than trace amounts found.

 

Good point... I was also talking about morphine, I f***ed that post up, lol.

[John_Havok]

Good point... I was also talking about morphine, I f***ed that post up, lol.

 

Yeah no worries, I just think there's a lot of conclusion jumping going on here without any real info. Hell, if I died tomorrow I'd have trace amounts of morphine in my system because I ate cheese tonight. Point is, trace amounts of any of those drugs wouldn't do anything to anyone.

[Grant77]

Me and the fam got to sign the wall today. It was very well done.

 

Re: drugs - what I read said the drugs and amounts found in his body were consistent with sleeping pills for insomnia. I don't know Jack about flying but it seems reasonable to take sleeping pills to sleep and then go about your life the next day.

 

Did others read otherwise re: amounts?

 

Edit - you know what. I don't care. I'm going to choose to remember the good. Doc is a f***ing legend. Don't let some partial information skew that guys. RIP Doc. We love ya

 

Well said.

[Boxcar]

Yeah no worries, I just think there's a lot of conclusion jumping going on here without any real info. Hell, if I died tomorrow I'd have trace amounts of morphine in my system because I ate cheese tonight. Point is, trace amounts of any of those drugs wouldn't do anything to anyone.

 

Yeah, Jim tends to do that.

[Jimcanuck]

It wasn't trace amounts.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2018/01/20/roy-halladay-plane-crash/1050708001/

 

Thought the chatter about suicide is such bollocks that put forward a more plausible reason for the erratic flying.

[bowld]

Saw some story where a coroner said the results of his tests are commonly seen with speedballs...

[Shart]

Really unfortunate that this case of Doc being a closet drug addict is hurting his legacy.

[Brownie19]

Good article on Doc and the HOF.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/roy-halladay-isnt-just-a-borderline-hall-of-famer/

 

In this - I discovered Rube Waddell. The man averaged over 7 K/9 in the early 1900's, which was unheard of in that time. 8.39 K/9 in 1903 over 324 innings is crazy awesome.

[Terminator]

Ok we had the ceremony and the game is nearly over. Take Doc off the banner please.

[Bobthe4th]

Ok we had the ceremony and the game is nearly over. Take Doc off the banner please.

 

Cold mate, haha.

[Krylian]

Ok we had the ceremony and the game is nearly over. Take Doc off the banner please.

 

Agreed.

[vdubmvp]

For those who weren't able to watch the ceremony:

 

[Jonn]

Ok we had the ceremony and the game is nearly over. Take Doc off the banner please.

 

Why though? Why not have him on the banner for the season.

[Krylian]

Why though? Why not have him on the banner for the season.

 

Why not have him on until the Jays win a world series again.

[Jonn]

Why not have him on until the Jays win a world series again.

 

Jays are honouring him with patches all season. His face can be on the banner for the season. I just don't get why it bothers people. I think it looks pretty classy.

[Ehjays]

1 Year ago Today and still can't believe it!!

[Krylian]

I'd pretty much forgotten about it.

[Krylian]

Coming out now that he had amphetamines, morphine, and other drugs in his system while he was flying and doing acrobatics in his plane.

[Ehjays]

Yeah, I was just reading that

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29040818/ntsb-roy-halladay-was-doing-stunts-plane-crashed-had-amphetamines-system

[Spanky99]

Yeah, read this earlier also.

[Dick_Pole]

I have no problem thinking that professional athletes are raging drug addicts. But I am saddened that this particular player had such issues. The portrayal of Halladay in my mind and the media is sadly not the realistic one.

[Frag]

I have no problem thinking that professional athletes are raging drug addicts. But I am saddened that this particular player had such issues. The portrayal of Halladay in my mind and the media is sadly not the realistic one.

 

Roy Halladay was the reason why I got so interested in baseball in the first place. He also made me appreciate what dominant pitching looks like.

 

Saddened by this news.

[Carlos Danger]

I have no problem thinking that professional athletes are raging drug addicts. But I am saddened that this particular player had such issues. The portrayal of Halladay in my mind and the media is sadly not the realistic one.

 

While the term drug addict might be accurate. To me a drug addict is someone who got addicted to recreational drugs because they liked coke or meth too much etc.

 

Those who suffered injury, athletes, veterans etc who were prescribed pain killers and then can not shake them and have a problem, are not in the same class IMO. I think to call them drug addicts is putting them in the same basket as some idiot who did meth for fun one night and then became addicted.

[max silver]

While the term drug addict might be accurate. To me a drug addict is someone who got addicted to recreational drugs because they liked coke or meth too much etc.

 

Those who suffered injury, athletes, veterans etc who were prescribed pain killers and then can not shake them and have a problem, are not in the same class IMO. I think to call them drug addicts is putting them in the same basket as some idiot who did meth for fun one night and then became addicted.

 

I don't know that blaming drug addicts for their addiction, no matter how it was acquired, really helps in any way. But if that's your line of thinking, Roy Halladay was performing stunts in his personal aircraft while intoxicated on a combination of chemicals that may have killed him even without the plane crash. This isn't exactly somehow better than somebody who tries out cocaine and ends up getting addicted.

[The Iceman]

Unfortunately very similar to driving a car while intoxicated or high. Could have been a much worse disaster had the crash taken place in a populated area.