Roy Halladay dies in a Plane Crash...RIP

[Omar]

[Ehjays]

This guy better never set foot in Toronto.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/boston-radio-host-mocks-roy-halladays-death-calls-moron-235459847.html

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/michael-felger-on-roy-halladay%E2%80%99s-death-%E2%80%98he-got-what-he-deserved%E2%80%99/ar-BBEKotf?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp

 

What an idiot he should be fired!!

[KingKat]

 

Holly crap. That's hard to watch. Brandy talking about how she fought him hard about flying. My heart breaks for her. That hit me harder than the initial news did.

[KingKat]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/michael-felger-on-roy-halladay%E2%80%99s-death-%E2%80%98he-got-what-he-deserved%E2%80%99/ar-BBEKotf?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp

 

What an idiot he should be fired!!

 

Idiot is putting it mildly. What an *******. What's the point in criticizing someone when they've already played the ultimate price for their mistake? That's f***ed up.

[Dick_Pole]

This guy better never set foot in Toronto.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/boston-radio-host-mocks-roy-halladays-death-calls-moron-235459847.html

 

Stupid f***ing big mouth shock jock wannabe. He gets paid well to mouth off his worthless opinion on sports (a pretty damn good job that most of us wouldn't mind having) and he has to abuse that privilege. The best way to go about this is to give him no attention at all. Probably just wants more Twitter follows. I've expressed my feelings on Halladay's actions which aren't exactly opposed to this guy's sentiment but you don't have to be a classless jackass about it.

 

"Roy made a lapse in judgement and hopefully this tragedy reminds people to be more careful with these types of small aircraft. Build your hours first before becoming a stunt pilot." is all the needs to be said by these media types that want to promote a life lesson here.

[Nabru]

Stupid f***ing big mouth shock jock wannabe. He gets paid well to mouth off his worthless opinion on sports (a pretty damn good job that most of us wouldn't mind having) and he has to abuse that privilege. The best way to go about this is to give him no attention at all. Probably just wants more Twitter follows. I've expressed my feelings on Halladay's actions which aren't exactly opposed to this guy's sentiment but you don't have to be a classless jackass about it.

 

"Roy made a lapse in judgement and hopefully this tragedy reminds people to be more careful with these types of small aircraft. Build your hours first before becoming a stunt pilot." is all the needs to be said by these media types that want to promote a life lesson here.

 

Unfortunately the modern world prioritizes likes, followers and any other thing that supports phantom popularity ahead of class or anything resembling a decent person.

 

As a former die-hard Boston Bruins fan, it isn't surprising to hear this coming out of Boston media.

[CanuckofChicago]

Reading Ken Rosenthal's piece this morning you would think he pitched for the Phillies his entire career.

 

Your right!! Those in the US media love to show RH in his Phillies uniform. Case in point, when this news came out, Jake Tapper from CNN tweeted out his sympathies but it was video of him during his time with the Phillies.

I shouldn't be nitpicking during this dark time, but come on he spent only 3 or 4 years with the Phillies. I don't think people here in the US realize how much RH meant to the city and country.

[jerb]

 

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I was waiting for @elliottbaseball on Roy Halladay. Always read Bob. https://t.co/OfEAzFHbB3

 

 

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By the way, from that piece: Bob says Halladay wanted to work with Jays pitchers, and the organization declined pic.twitter.com/vjyOqeP3RG

[KingKat]

I like that the new Front Office isn't tied to the past and isn't afraid to make changes and bring in people who don't have historic ties to the Jays and is willing to let people go that do if they don't fit with the plan but that Halladay thing is just bizzare. There's no bigger authority in baseball on high performance than Roy Halladay. None. I'm sure that they had their reasons but that seems pretty foolish on the surface.

[Omar]

I like that the new Front Office isn't tied to the past and isn't afraid to make changes and bring in people who don't have historic ties to the Jays and is willing to let people go that do if they don't fit with the plan but that Halladay thing is just bizzare. There's no bigger authority in baseball on high performance than Roy Halladay. None. I'm sure that they had their reasons but that seems pretty foolish on the surface.

 

 

Roy was told he would have to fill out an application and apply for a position. *Unbelievable*

[Dick_Pole]

Your right!! Those in the US media love to show RH in his Phillies uniform. Case in point, when this news came out, Jake Tapper from CNN tweeted out his sympathies but it was video of him during his time with the Phillies.

I shouldn't be nitpicking during this dark time, but come on he spent only 3 or 4 years with the Phillies. I don't think people here in the US realize how much RH meant to the city and country.

 

It is what it is. I'm not that perturbed about it as others seem to be. Halladay's biggest single game highlights came in a Phillies uniform. The Jays were completely forgettable while he was here. Joe Carter is shown in a Cleveland uniform exactly zero times even though his best years came there so I don't take this as anti-Canadian sentiment. Have you paid attention to half of the country? They all wish they were Canadians right now.

[TheHurl]

I like that the new Front Office isn't tied to the past and isn't afraid to make changes and bring in people who don't have historic ties to the Jays and is willing to let people go that do if they don't fit with the plan but that Halladay thing is just bizzare. There's no bigger authority in baseball on high performance than Roy Halladay. None. I'm sure that they had their reasons but that seems pretty foolish on the surface.

 

I can tell you what little I know from people I've talked to about this front office. They will not hire anyone who is not a fit with them personally. Josh Lifrak told me a story about how he interviewed with the Shatkins and got to the point where they were talking about the team that would work below him. It came down to culture in the office, and Josh is not a suit and tie type whereas Shatkins are. That was enough for Shatkins not to hire him, but instead Shapiro called Theo and said "I have the Mental Conditioning director for you" and Josh was hired by the Cubs after one meeting with Theo. Based on this story and a couple others I've heard, if Roy wasn't a fit they wouldn't just hand him a job. I honestly don't see it as a negative even.

[KingKat]

I can tell you what little I know from people I've talked to about this front office. They will not hire anyone who is not a fit with them personally. Josh Lifrak told me a story about how he interviewed with the Shatkins and got to the point where they were talking about the team that would work below him. It came down to culture in the office, and Josh is not a suit and tie type whereas Shatkins are. That was enough for Shatkins not to hire him, but instead Shapiro called Theo and said "I have the Mental Conditioning director for you" and Josh was hired by the Cubs after one meeting with Theo. Based on this story and a couple others I've heard, if Roy wasn't a fit they wouldn't just hand him a job. I honestly don't see it as a negative even.

 

I can see that but it seems a bit draconian. I mean Roy's personal experience is pretty unique. There isn't a "Roy Halladay but more coporate" waiting in the wing for you like they're might in other positions. It seems like they could have found a way to tap into Roy Halladay's value as a role model to young pitchers but if they ultimately felt he would be a better fit in an organization like the Phillies, I guess you have to respect the honesty in that even if it's off putting.

[Deadpool]

I can tell you what little I know from people I've talked to about this front office. They will not hire anyone who is not a fit with them personally. Josh Lifrak told me a story about how he interviewed with the Shatkins and got to the point where they were talking about the team that would work below him. It came down to culture in the office, and Josh is not a suit and tie type whereas Shatkins are. That was enough for Shatkins not to hire him, but instead Shapiro called Theo and said "I have the Mental Conditioning director for you" and Josh was hired by the Cubs after one meeting with Theo. Based on this story and a couple others I've heard, if Roy wasn't a fit they wouldn't just hand him a job. I honestly don't see it as a negative even.

 

This anecdote makes me respect Shatkins a bit less. You need to have some flexibility in your organization, and "suit and tie" type should not be even on the radar of a baseball organization.

[metafour]

Stupid f***ing big mouth shock jock wannabe. He gets paid well to mouth off his worthless opinion on sports (a pretty damn good job that most of us wouldn't mind having) and he has to abuse that privilege. The best way to go about this is to give him no attention at all. Probably just wants more Twitter follows. I've expressed my feelings on Halladay's actions which aren't exactly opposed to this guy's sentiment but you don't have to be a classless jackass about it.

 

"Roy made a lapse in judgement and hopefully this tragedy reminds people to be more careful with these types of small aircraft. Build your hours first before becoming a stunt pilot." is all the needs to be said by these media types that want to promote a life lesson here.

 

He's not abusing anything; he has the job because his shtick works. If you don't like it, then don't pay him any attention. There is no societal law that requires him to be "thoughtful", nor should there be.

[KingKat]

He's not abusing anything; he has the job because his shtick works. If you don't like it, then don't pay him any attention. There is no societal law that requires him to be "thoughtful", nor should there be.

 

Nor is there any law that says you can't call an ******* an ******* when he's being an *******. FFS.

[metafour]

Nor is there any law that says you can't call an ******* an ******* when he's being an *******. FFS.

 

Sure, except the post I was quoting seemed to be chastising the guy to not do what he did. Why? "*******s" serve a vital role when it comes to counterbalancing sugarcoated responses.

[Bobthe4th]

Sure, except the post I was quoting seemed to be chastising the guy to not do what he did. Why? "*******s" serve a vital role when it comes to counterbalancing sugarcoated responses.

 

No, they don't.

[Dick_Pole]

Sure, except the post I was quoting seemed to be chastising the guy to not do what he did. Why? "*******s" serve a vital role when it comes to counterbalancing sugarcoated responses.

 

I disagree with you, but the last time I did that I received back a 500 word paragraph like you're some kind of lunatic off his meds and I noticed you have a tendency to do that more often when you find yourself in a disagreement. So I'm just going to leave it be.

[Spanky99]

Holly crap. That's hard to watch. Brandy talking about how she fought him hard about flying. My heart breaks for her. That hit me harder than the initial news did.

 

Yeah, that was pretty tough.

[Grant77]

The news that we wouldn't allow Doc to work with our young pitchers is one of the worst indictments of our franchise that I have ever heard, if entirely true. That's disgraceful.

[TBJ12]

The news that we wouldn't allow Doc to work with our young pitchers is one of the worst indictments of our franchise that I have ever heard, if entirely true. That's disgraceful.

 

I defended Shatkins throughout, but this one isn't going to go over well.

[Spanky99]

Statement from the Halladay Family

 

MLB.com | November 9th, 2017

 

Our family is heartbroken in confirming that Roy passed away in a plane crash Tuesday afternoon. While many will remember him for his success as a major league pitcher, we remember him as an amazing father, loving husband and loyal friend.

 

Roy had many accomplishments in his professional career, the memories of which we will cherish forever. He described each achievement as a team effort rather than an individual accomplishment, a true testament to his character and love for his teammates.

 

Roy grew up with a passion for planes and always had the goal of becoming a pilot. Since retiring from baseball, he has been actively studying, accumulating the required flight hours and obtaining multiple pilot certifications and licenses. Just as he was known for his work ethic in baseball, he was also widely respected by those who knew him in the aviation community for his hard work, attention to detail and dedication to safety while flying. He treated his passion for aviation with the same joy and enthusiasm as he did his love for baseball.

 

That passion was also expressed through his tireless dedication to helping his own children and so many others learn to love and respect the game of baseball. He was an amazing coach for many youth teams, always showing patience and encouragement while reminding each child that they all had a role to play, a way to contribute and add value to their team. His love for the game had no boundaries as we often saw him instructing and encouraging the players on opposing teams. Roy was selfless in every aspect of his life.

 

While we mourn the loss of the core of our family, we choose to celebrate him and remember the man we knew privately on and off the field. We hope that he serves as an example of professionalism, integrity and hard work for all who knew him. For us, we will forever remember his unconditional love, humility and the sacrifices he made to provide for the family that meant the world to him.

 

On behalf of our family we thank you for respecting our privacy during this time of overwhelming grief. We also ask that you respect the privacy of our extended family as well as the families and children who Roy has coached, taught or worked with. We are so fortunate and thankful for the outpouring of love and support we've received from across the world. A celebration of life will be held on Tuesday, November 14, 2017, at 4:00 p.m. at Spectrum Field in Clearwater, Florida. The service will be open to the public.

 

The Halladay Family

[flafson]

Anyone wondering what's the talk about Blue Jays not wanting to have Doc work with our pitchers, here is the quote:

 

Halladay was supposed to work with the Blue Jays minor league pitchers (“There are enough guys to help with arms and elbows, I’m going to try and help a pitcher’s head.”) in 2016. Instead he wound up working with the Phillies.

 

This off season he wanted to work with Blue Jays minor leaguers. He applied -- yes Roy Halladay was made to apply for a job with the Blue Jays -- with the high performance committee.

 

And then the decision whether to hire him was kicked upstairs.

 

The Jays did not hire him. Instead, he was re-hired by the Phillies to work with their young pitchers.

[Effit]

Every day I wake up, I still think this can’t be real.

[jimedmonds]

I was extremely sad to hear of Halladay's passing. He is my favorite athlete of all time among Toronto based teams and arguably, my favorite athlete in all of sports. Not just for his exceptional talent, but his personality, demeanour, professionalism, and dedication - I never believed in having sports idols or having children look up to sports athletes as role models (as opposed to less celebrated and famous individuals in science, social causes, etc.), but all of those aformentioned traits exemplify what a quality individual he was and do make him someone worthy of others to admire and try to emulate. It's unfortunate that his life ended early the way that it did - as much as it's a red herring to discuss whether these circumstances were avoidable or not.

 

As I get older and experience the loss of loved ones, I always remember a proverb that I read a while back which really resonates with me. I'll try to paraphrase as I think it applies here - every man (or woman) dies thrice. His first death is when his body ceases to function. His second death is when his body is buried within the earth. His third and final death is when his name is spoken by others for the last time. As sad as I've been feeling since hearing of his death, I take some solace in that proverb - it gives a sense that even though he has physically passed, the fact is that he'll live on in both our individual and collective memories for generations to come.

[admin]

Has there been any news about what exactly happened that day?

[Laika]

Has there been any news about what exactly happened that day?

 

No, not officially. There was a short video of him flying wildly and low.

 

Speculation is that he was kind of being reckless, pushing it a bit too much, flying too low. + Not enough experience in the plane or flying in general.

 

The plane itself is under scrutiny. It's pretty new and there have been several deaths now including the designer himself.

[John_Havok]

No, not officially. There was a short video of him flying wildly and low.

 

Speculation is that he was kind of being reckless, pushing it a bit too much, flying too low. + Not enough experience in the plane or flying in general.

 

The plane itself is under scrutiny. It's pretty new and there have been several deaths now including the designer himself.

 

Halladay's plane was the first of the 2018 model year to be delivered to a buyer also

[KingKat]

No, not officially. There was a short video of him flying wildly and low. Speculation is that he was kind of being reckless, pushing it a bit too much, flying too low. + Not enough experience in the plane or flying in general.The plane itself is under scrutiny. It's pretty new and there have been several deaths now including the designer himself.

To be fair, it is a water plane and it's supposed to fly close to the water. Seems like he was coming down too fast but we can't fully exclude that there were mechanical deficiencies that played into this. Wich isn't to say that he wasn't taking big risks. It's an inherently risky hobby in the first place, a risk that was compounded by other factors like experience, desire to push the plane, the track record of the plane itself, etc.