The 2017 international signing class July 2nd Thread.

[TheHurl]

$1.4M isn't even that low. He's still among the 10 highest bonuses for 16 year old pitchers ever (I think he'll still be 8th all time), The list of pitchers higher paid is not pretty (even Anderson Espinoza is ready to head to the bust pile).

[TheHurl]

I think the point is that he's already good so who cares if he doesn't get better.

 

Right now he has velocity (so do several 16 year old 2019 draft class high school spects) and a "mature approach". I'm sure he has a lot of improvements to make. My only question about the concerns is that body isn't the only thing that increases velocity and effectiveness.

[Slade]

How are the Red Sox consistently able to get the highest tiered guys? They are linked to 2. Daniel Flores, 7. Danny Diaz and 35. Antoni Flores. Daniel Flores looks really really good.

[metafour]

I think the point is that he's already good so who cares if he doesn't get better.

 

How "good" he is is relative. Stuff wise, he's probably comparable to someone like Francisco Rios right now, and Rios is a fringe SP prospect. He absolutely has to get better, we aren't talking about a kid with MLB stuff today. Guys that throw low 90's are a dime a dozen.

[Pendleton]

How are the Red Sox consistently able to get the highest tiered guys? They are linked to 2. Daniel Flores, 7. Danny Diaz and 35. Antoni Flores. Daniel Flores looks really really good.

 

Well they're the Red Sox, and they also traded for extra bonus cash.

[burlingtonbandit]

Well that's not how it was phrased. No mention about his fastball not playing up because of the angle. Seems to be strictly about lack of physical projection though perhaps the criticism was just poorly paraphrased.

 

Well unless he's sitting at 95 his FB might be considered plus now but in a few years time it would probably only be average. And if the stuff doesn't get better is he going to be able to succeed against high level hitters? That's probably what the scout's concerns are.

[Laika]

Am I the only one who finds this to be a bizzare criticism? Seems like he already throws hard enough to potentially be an effective major leaguer anyways. Does it really matter that much if he doesn't add velocity? This seems like a weirdly scout-centric perspective. "This guy is already pretty good but he doesn't lend himself to hyperbolic wish casting so I don't like him."

 

Yeah I think you're hitting on some truth. Almost like scouts would prefer a projectable 89 over a short guy throwing 93.

 

You see this type of stuff even in the normal draft. Scouts and scouting types get stuck in their traditional thoughts a bit too often.

[Spanky99]

Yep. That's right.

Also, the Brazilian is 5'9"

 

*Hater*

[Spanky99]

Well they're the Red Sox, and they also traded for extra bonus cash.

 

And they were unavailable the last 2 years, paid massive league tax on going over there limit 10 fold, lost a couple picks and another fine(on some other allegation)... they don't give a f***.

[metafour]

[Grant77]

I think the point is that he's already good so who cares if he doesn't get better.

 

I care very much if players get better.

[Spanky99]

I care very much if players get better.

 

That was opined sarcasm, mate.

[metafour]

[Grant77]

 

Solarte either fell asleep halfway through his signature or he doesn't know how to write.

[Spanky99]

He's trying, Grant.

[jays4life19]

After the first day we have...

 

Eric Pardinho, rhp, Brazil (No. 14 prospect), $1.4 mllion

Miguel Hiraldo, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 23 prospect), $750,000.

Alejandro Melean, rhp, Venezuela (No. 32 prospect) 775,000

Leonardo Jimenez, ss, Panama (No. 36 prospect) $800,000

Alberto Rodriguez, of, Dominican Republic (No. 38 prospect)

Rainer Diaz, ss, Dominican Republic

Jose Rivas, ss, Venezuela 280,000

Geyber Jimenez, c, Venezuela, 100,000k

Jhon Solarte, of, Venezuela

Ronald Govea, rhp, Venezuela

Edited July 3, 2017 by jays4life19

[metafour]

[jays4life19]

After the first day we have...

 

Eric Pardinho, rhp, Brazil (No. 14 prospect), $1.4 mllion

Miguel Hiraldo, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 23 prospect), $750,000.

Alejandro Melean, rhp, Venezuela (No. 32 prospect) 775,000

Leonardo Jimenez, ss, Panama (No. 36 prospect) $800,000

Alberto Rodriguez, of, Dominican Republic (No. 38 prospect)

Rainer Diaz, ss, Dominican Republic

Jose Rivas, ss, Venezuela 280,000

Geyber Jimenez, c, Venezuela, 100,000k

Jhon Solarte, of, Venezuela

Ronald Govea, rhp, Venezuela

 

We have spent 4,105,000 so far and bonus's have not been reported for Rodriguez, Diaz, Solarte, and Govea.

[metafour]

Govea signed for $200K. We're at $4,305,000 so far.

[burlingtonbandit]

Doesn't anything 100K and under not count towards the pool?

[bronson44]

Doesn't anything 100K and under not count towards the pool?

 

10K and below I believe

[jays4life19]

updated from BA:

 

Toronto Blue Jays

Eric Pardinho, rhp, Brazil (No. 14 prospect)

Miguel Hiraldo, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 23 prospect), $750,000.

Alejandro Melean, rhp, Venezuela (No. 32 prospect)

Leonardo Jimenez, ss, Panama (No. 36 prospect), $825,000.

Alberto Rodriguez, of, Dominican Republic (No. 38 prospect), $500,000.

Rainer Diaz, ss, Dominican Republic

Jose Rivas, ss, Venezuela

Geyber Jimenez, c, Venezuela

Jhon Solarte, of, Venezuela

Ronald Govea, rhp, Venezuela

Alexis Carmona, rhp, Venezuela

Williams Moreno, rhp, Venezuela

Erick Teran, lhp, Venezuela

Miguel Olivo, rhp, Venezuela

Alexis Carmona, rhp, Venezuela

Luis Pena, rhp, Venezuela

[Spanky99]

Is there a signing deadline for IFA's? 30 days right, or am I confusing this with the rule 4 draft?

[John_Havok]

Is there a signing deadline for IFA's? 30 days right, or am I confusing this with the rule 4 draft?

 

No limit for IFAs. As long as they were 16 prior to July 2, they could be signed anytime after that

[mphenhef]

Is there a signing deadline for IFA's? 30 days right, or am I confusing this with the rule 4 draft?

I believe the signing period ends on june 15 of 2018 giving a small break before the next period.

[burlingtonbandit]

The Jays are believed to be a favourite for one of the top players in the 2018 class.

 

Orelvis Martinez, ss, Dominican Republic

Martinez is a strong, physical righthanded hitter who stands out for his offensive upside. He's 6-foot-1, 190 pounds with a compact swing, good bat speed and power, and with how much more size he projects to add down the road, it's likely he moves over to third base. His bonus is expected to push past $3 million, with the Blue Jays the favorites.

Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/10-international-prospects-to-watch-for-2018/#2GE5Qj6HXphywCxM.99