Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 His punctuation is awful. He probably should stay in school.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 His punctuation is awful. He probably should stay in school. Agreed. I don't want anyone that writes like that.
Ray Verified Member Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Hagen Danner signed. $1.5 million. TORONTO – The Toronto Blue Jays and second-round pick Hagen Danner are in agreement on a signing bonus worth about $1.5 million, according to two industry sources. The deal, which is well above the 61st spot’s assigned value of $1,043,200, is pending a physical. Danner starred at Huntington Beach High School and was scouted by teams as both a catcher and pitcher, but the Blue Jays see him as a backstop with a chance to star both at the plate and behind it. He has a commitment to UCLA. Once completed, first-rounders Logan Warmoth, the No. 22 pick with a slot value of 2,795,200, and Nate Pearson, the No. 28 selection with a slot value of 2,302,900, would be the Blue Jays’ lone remaining unsigned picks from the first 10 rounds. The Blue Jays have a total bonus pool of $8,230,400 for the first 10 rounds (players selected after the 10th round can sign for up to $125,000, with an overage counted against their pool). Teams that outspend their pools are subject to a sliding scale of penalties, starting with a 75 per cent tax on any overage up to five per cent. Any overages beyond five per cent include taxes and the forfeiture of future draft picks. The Blue Jays can outspend their pool by about $411,000 before losing a future pick. The agreement with Danner put them at an overage of about $155,000, leaving them roughly $5.354 million to spread between Warmoth and Pearson. Link: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-agree-sign-second-round-pick-hagen-danner/
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Wow that is way over slot on Danner, they must really like him at catcher.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Hagen Danner signed. $1.5 million. Wonder when the overspending on Prep catchers will end. It's always just a given that you have to overpay them to get them out of their commits...It just makes no sense to me.
metafour Verified Member Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Wow that is way over slot on Danner, they must really like him at catcher. Most HS kids drafted in that range are going to take over-slot to sign unless you are cutting a deal to take someone a little higher than expected. Even Adam Hall, the raw Canadian SS, got over slot one pick ahead of us...and he went earlier than expected if you want to go by draft rankings. I knew that Danner would get over slot once I saw what the other HS catchers were signings for (Detroit took a kid in the 5th round that signed for $1 mill, which was basically Danner's slot value in the 2nd round).
Maine Jays Verified Member Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Hagen Danner signed. $1.5 million. Link: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-agree-sign-second-round-pick-hagen-danner/ Any word on what Ritcheson (or however you spell the kid we picked in round 23) wants? If they can get our top two picks in at $4.5, that would leave a million or so for him.
Key22 Verified Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 What does Black mean? Justin Dillon signed for $5,000 is that a typo? Or does he just suck and they want to create financial space. If so - the Jays can draft me every year at Number 10 for $4,000!
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Author Posted June 26, 2017 First round signings are coming: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-close-signing-first-round-picks-warmoth-pearson/
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 What does Black mean? Justin Dillon signed for $5,000 is that a typo? Or does he just suck and they want to create financial space. If so - the Jays can draft me every year at Number 10 for $4,000! Yes - teams draft College Sr's every year because they have so much leverage on them and then offer them next to nothing to they can spend that draft slot money elsewhere. I told Tinnish a few times to keep my name handy if he wants to save some cash, as I would gladly sign for $1 (and them promptly retire). Turns out they can get College Sr's who actually have some upside/potential for next to nothing and thus my phone has yet to ring. I have no idea what this subject has to do with the definition of black though.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Any word on what Ritcheson (or however you spell the kid we picked in round 23) wants? If they can get our top two picks in at $4.5, that would leave a million or so for him. Our top 2 picks slot comes in at a total of 5,098,100, we arent getting them for 4.5. And Even if we did it would only leave about 800k
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Author Posted June 26, 2017 Turns out they can get College Sr's who actually have some upside/potential for next to nothing and thus my phone has yet to ring. See: Pillar, Boyd, Graveman I have no idea what this subject has to do with the definition of black though. He's asking about the colors in the signing table. I didn't think I had to label it, but black means nothing. We don't know whether those players are signing, are considering signing, or not signing.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 How dare anyone question TL's dedication to updates.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 By the way, has this convoluted draft cap system actually accomplished anything yet? Seems like a change that hasn't benefitted anyone and probably just drove more kids towards other sports.
metafour Verified Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 By the way, has this convoluted draft cap system actually accomplished anything yet? Seems like a change that hasn't benefitted anyone and probably just drove more kids towards other sports. It has accomplished the goal of keeping costs down for owners, which is basically the only reason why it was implemented in the first place.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 It has accomplished the goal of keeping costs down for owners, which is basically the only reason why it was implemented in the first place. Right, I forgot the whole mumbo jumbo about making the draft more "fair" was just a load of s*** from the get go.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 You want fairness? Put a cap on Major League salaries and rosters. Draft and IFA's is pennies compared to that.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 You want fairness? Put a cap on Major League salaries and rosters. Draft and IFA's is pennies compared to that. Owners would never want a salary cap.. They wouldn't want players getting more revenue.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 You want fairness? Put a cap on Major League salaries and rosters. Draft and IFA's is pennies compared to that. The parity in baseball is far better than any other sport in the Western world, arguably, and that's what a salary cap aims to fix. There's zero need for a cap.
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 f*** Salary caps, the NBA and NHL are complete garbage because everyone is pressured to spend to the max and then have no flexibility to make moves.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 The parity in baseball is far better than any other sport in the Western world, arguably, and that's what a salary cap aims to fix. There's zero need for a cap. I'd probably argue that the NHL has the most parity amongst the 4 major sports. The stupid 3 point system doesn't help though. The NBA is by far the worst. There is 1 team in each division right now. I don't see anything wrong with baseball right now.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 I'd probably argue that the NHL has the most parity amongst the 4 major sports. The stupid 3 point system doesn't help though. The NBA is by far the worst. There is 1 team in each division right now. I don't see anything wrong with baseball right now. Hockey has also created a system where the best team seldom wins. I love my Sens but no way they should have been in a situation where 1 goal in a 30 minute stretch would have put them in the finals.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Hockey has also created a system where the best team seldom wins. I love my Sens but no way they should have been in a situation where 1 goal in a 30 minute stretch would have put them in the finals. I disagree, that seldom happens, I tip my hat to the Sens they played well. The "Best" teams normally win, bro. The Hurricanes are the only dog that won the cup in the last 20 years.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 The parity in baseball is far better than any other sport in the Western world, arguably, and that's what a salary cap aims to fix. There's zero need for a cap. Wouldn't say there's that much parity in baseball, maybe on picking the World Series winner but not but the consensus before the season was the Red Sox, Indians, Astros, Nats, Cubs and Dodgers would win the divisions and its looking exactly like that. Really the salary cap was created to keep costs down but the Owners in MLB get the largest chunk of revenue of all the leagues so a salary cap would actually be bad for the owners.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 I disagree, that seldom happens, I tip my hat to the Sens they played well. The "Best" teams normally win, bro. The Hurricanes are the only dog that won the cup in the last 20 years. In the past 24 years the number 1 seed in the East has made the finals 3 times. Same number of times the number 8 seed in the West has made it. East by seed 1. 3 2. 5 3. 4 4. 6 5. 2 6. 2 7. 2 8. 0 West 1. 7 2. 5 3. 3 4. 0 5. 2 6. 2 7. 2 8. 3
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) In the past 24 years the number 1 seed in the East has made the finals 3 times. Same number of times the number 8 seed in the West has made it. East by seed 1. 3 2. 5 3. 4 4. 6 5. 2 6. 2 7. 2 8. 0 West 1. 7 2. 5 3. 3 4. 0 5. 2 6. 2 7. 2 8. 3 C'mon man, and what teams were undeserving of hoisting Lord Stanley? There's parity no doubt, and some teams get through a round or 2/3, but a Cup Contender almost always wins. Very good teams win the cup and deservedly so... aside from the Canes. MLB in the last few years had s*** teams win the WS... Royals and Giants as an example. f*** I hate that, but if you get in you can win. Edited June 26, 2017 by Spanky99
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 The parity in baseball is far better than any other sport in the Western world, arguably, and that's what a salary cap aims to fix. There's zero need for a cap. Oh I'm not saying there's a need, that it should, or would ever happen. My point is merely that if owners really care that much about fairness and controlling cost (i.e. Draft Cap) then go after the big ticket item. Putting a cap on the draft does absolutely nothing. It's not like we ever saw teams spending $20-30M in a draft.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 I'd probably argue that the NHL has the most parity amongst the 4 major sports. The stupid 3 point system doesn't help though. The NBA is by far the worst. There is 1 team in each division right now. I don't see anything wrong with baseball right now. Well I mean...you don't want too much parity. Dynasties are fun.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Oh I'm not saying there's a need, that it should, or would ever happen. My point is merely that if owners really care that much about fairness and controlling cost (i.e. Draft Cap) then go after the big ticket item. Putting a cap on the draft does absolutely nothing. It's not like we ever saw teams spending $20-30M in a draft. Yeah I'm not really liking this trend of MLB putting small bandaids on a bunch of non problems. I was meh on the no pitch IW, but having seen one live, it's just too f***ing weird. I mean, the fans at the stadium aren't necessarily owed anything but the batter comes up with his music and walks to first without even stepping in the box. Its f***ing weird and i hate it a lot more than I thought I would. Rob Manfred suxxxxxxxxx
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 In the past 24 years the number 1 seed in the East has made the finals 3 times. Same number of times the number 8 seed in the West has made it. East by seed 1. 3 2. 5 3. 4 4. 6 5. 2 6. 2 7. 2 8. 0 West 1. 7 2. 5 3. 3 4. 0 5. 2 6. 2 7. 2 8. 3 Seeds don't really tell the story in the NHL. You usually have a lot of teams clumped together because of the loser point anyway (Pretty sure LA Kings were an 8 seed but were thought of 1 of the best teams) I agree with Spank if you look at who's made the finals in the last 20 years its basically all cup contenders outside a few Cinderella stories. A team can get lucky and win a round or 2 but the best teams almost always win in the end.
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