Thursday game 1 (4/27) Jays @ St Louis 1:45 start time

[Pendleton]

He is hitting .185 this year, sure he has 12 walks but he has not been clutch. We pay him 85 million for 5 years to frame and play good defence? No he needs to hit.

 

If batting average is all you have to work with, you're a mile over your head in this discussion. The numbers that matter (as pointed out above) suggest Martin is doing his job.

[Bobthe4th]

Holy f*** the Cardinals are making a ton of fundamental mistakes.

 

It's getting embarrassing for them

[Orgfiller]

He is hitting .185 this year, sure he has 12 walks but he has not been clutch. We pay him 85 million for 5 years to frame and play good defence? No he needs to hit.

 

Clutch isn't a real thing. He's hit well overall, that's what matters. And yes, we mostly did pay him a lot of money to be an elite defensive catcher with average offense. He's earned every penny of his contract up to this point, and much more.

[BlazinJays]

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/7410-Thursday-game-1-(4-27)-Jays-St-Louis-1-45-start-time?p=1147915&viewfull=1#post1147915

 

He's playing better yes, it's good to see but I'm still worried about Martin

[Governator]

He's playing better yes, it's good to see but I'm still worried about Martin

 

send him a get well card.

[Atothe]

Grichuk is an idiot

[Orgfiller]

On one hand, that was a really​ tough ball to read off the bat and play as it's coming right over your head, but Fowler nearly misplayed that as well.

[Daniel Labude]

Travis can't buy a hit. Fowler was dancing out there all the way to the warning track and catches it

[Orgfiller]

send him a get well card.

 

Lol

[BlazinJays]

Clutch isn't a real thing. He's hit well overall, that's what matters. And yes, we mostly did pay him a lot of money to be an elite defensive catcher with average offense. He's earned every penny of his contract up to this point, and much more.

 

 

I believe in clutch, it is a thing. If you have 1st and 3rd and 1 out he should be able to get that run in, that's clutch. Also lets not forget he was advertised as a good hitting catcher not just an average catcher with good defence.

[Orgfiller]

Damn Pearce really cannot buy a hit right now. Awful luck for him.

[Daniel Labude]

Pearce gets robbed as well lol...at least him and Travis are making better contact

[Governator]

I believe in clutch, it is a thing. If you have 1st and 3rd and 1 out he should be able to get that run in, that's clutch. Also lets not forget he was advertised as a good hitting catcher not just an average catcher with good defence.

 

Just stop. There's 10 more things to be worried about right now than Martin's .917 OPS his last 8 games.

[Jonn]

He's playing better yes, it's good to see but I'm still worried about Martin

 

[Governator]

damn

[BlazinJays]

Just stop. There's 10 more things to be worried about right now than Martin's .917 OPS his last 8 games.

 

Truth sucks sometimes, yea I know.

[Pendleton]

Cards announcers may be right, Coghlan might not have made that out.

[Orgfiller]

I believe in clutch, it is a thing. If you have 1st and 3rd and 1 out he should be able to get that run in, that's clutch. Also lets not forget he was advertised as a good hitting catcher not just an average catcher with good defence.

 

Okay sure, I guess that's your opinion even though it's been shown that there's basically no correlation for "clutch" in consecutive years, it's completely random. But alright, let's leave it there.

 

Since the Blue Jays have signed him, he's been the 4th most valuable catcher in baseball (framing not included), as well as the 8th best hitter among catchers, with a 106 wRC+, which is above average for the league, let alone catchers who are always far below average hitters as a whole.

[Terminator]

Ball 1 was a strike!

[Pendleton]

Truth sucks sometimes, yea I know.

 

Glad to hear you understand that, because the truth is that you're completely wrong when it comes to Martin and no one agrees with a word you're saying.

[Daniel Labude]

Cardinals broadcast called that run. Said there was no reason at all for Smith to face Carpenter...was like putting a ball on a tee for him

[Orgfiller]

Truth sucks sometimes, yea I know.

 

If the truth is that Martin continues to be an exceptional catcher and crucial to the Toronto Blue Jays' roster then I'd love some more of them truths you got going there.

[Jonn]

Cardinals broadcast called that run. Said there was no reason at all for Smith to face Carpenter...was like putting a ball on a tee for him

 

Tell them to shut the f*** up. They're getting swept.

[Orgfiller]

Cardinals broadcast called that run. Said there was no reason at all for Smith to face Carpenter...was like putting a ball on a tee for him

 

Meh, I'd prefer the superior Smith over JP Howell, even if the latter is a lefty specialist. Carpenter is good against anyone.

[Yippy]

Smith struck jerko out twice there

[Yippy]

Broadcaster questioning why lefty isn't in now

[Orgfiller]

Despite the run Joe Smith continues to be nails.

[Yippy]

Ump has missed at least three strike calls

[Pendleton]

Broadcaster questioning why lefty isn't in now

 

haha yeah it went on for awhile like we were supposed to be so deeply concerned about Matt Adams

[Terminator]

Tell them to shut the f*** up. They're getting swept.

 

Well would you lack at that. About to win 2 games in a row for the first time all year and we've got some board swagger back.