reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Who would you guys like to see round out the outfield? Edwin's probability of re-signing seems low, so the biggest acquisitions left are probably in the outfield. Ideally they get 2 outfielders, but they need 1 at minimum. Some names: Free agents: Jose Bautista Mark Trumbo Michael Saunders Brandon Moss Rajai Davis Angel Pagan Colby Rasmus Potential trade candidates: Jay Bruce Charlie Blackmon Carlos Gonzalez Melky Cabrera Curtis Granderson Ryan Braun Andrew McCutchen There's a list of some of the obvious candidates. If anyone has some other candidates, it would be interesting to discuss. Thanks
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Hang on, let me check the other 17 threads that discuss this and I'll get back to you.
Ray Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Not sure if Cutch gets moved at this point. Bucks will hope for him to rebound and then probably flip him at the trade deadline. Jarrod Dyson is another potential trade target. Just give me Bautista + Dyson and I'll be more than a happy man.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 I'd add Michael Conforto and Alex Gordon in the trade possibilities.
Muck Bartinez Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Brilliant. Hope I don't get banned for saying so.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Other free agents Luis Valbuena - just plop him in LF or something. Trevor Plouffe - see above. Austin Jackson Desmond Jennings? Gregor Blanco Alejandro De Aza Josh Hamilton - ???? is this guy retiring or what? Angel Pagan Chris Coghlan Trade Jarrod Dyson -- seemed like a great target until Adam Eaton got traded for that huge package. It seems like baseball values these defense first guys appropriately which is unfortunate to this end. David Peralta Seth Smith Billy Hamilton JD Martinez -- why does nobody in Blue Jay land talk about this guy? Random realistic trade targets... Brandon Drury (probably not available) Socrates Brito Tommy Pham Tony Kemp Jake Smolinski Mark Zagunis Scott Van Slyke Derek Dietrich Travis Jankowski (maybe a stretch) Scott Schebler Billy Burns Eddie Rosario (maybe a stretch) A lot of these names are bottom of the barrel. But I think most of them have some angle that is interesting. At this point I kind of just expect Toronto to add a couple of warm bodies and not much more. But we'll see. If they do so little as to just sign a guy like Valbuena (plop Pearce in LF) then I would be ecstatic.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) I'd rather put my tongue three inches deep in Big Papi's ass than trade for Melky Well said. Took the words right out of my mouth. Edited December 13, 2016 by TheHurl
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Howie Kendrick is a very realistic trade target imo.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Howie Kendrick is a very realistic trade target imo. He was traded like two days ago
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Author Posted December 13, 2016 Hang on, let me check the other 17 threads that discuss this and I'll get back to you. I'd like to have a separate thread that explicitly talks about outfield options.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 He was traded like two days ago Huh? Last I saw he was traded a month ago to the Phillies, and the expectation was that he would be flipped. What did I miss?
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Author Posted December 13, 2016 Other free agents Luis Valbuena - just plop him in LF or something. Trevor Plouffe - see above. Austin Jackson Desmond Jennings? Gregor Blanco Alejandro De Aza Josh Hamilton - ???? is this guy retiring or what? Angel Pagan Chris Coghlan Trade Jarrod Dyson -- seemed like a great target until Adam Eaton got traded for that huge package. It seems like baseball values these defense first guys appropriately which is unfortunate to this end. David Peralta Seth Smith Billy Hamilton JD Martinez -- why does nobody in Blue Jay land talk about this guy? Random realistic trade targets... Brandon Drury (probably not available) Socrates Brito Tommy Pham Tony Kemp Jake Smolinski Mark Zagunis Scott Van Slyke Derek Dietrich Travis Jankowski (maybe a stretch) Scott Schebler Billy Burns Eddie Rosario (maybe a stretch) A lot of these names are bottom of the barrel. But I think most of them have some angle that is interesting. At this point I kind of just expect Toronto to add a couple of warm bodies and not much more. But we'll see. If they do so little as to just sign a guy like Valbuena (plop Pearce in LF) then I would be ecstatic. Interesting, thanks for adding. I forgot that I saw a rumour about J.D. Martinez a couple weeks ago. That is for sure a great target, if they have enough to give up (which might not be the case).
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Howie Kendrick is a very realistic trade target imo. In that same vein, how about Josh Harrison? Pirates apparently want to move him. The Jays need a 2B when Travis misses half the year, and Harrison has played some OF, 3B, etc, as well. Could be a versatile option.
Ray Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Actually, Valbuena would be a really nice pickup. He's projected at 1.5 WAR next season, but I think he'll outperform that given regular playing time. Real good splits. Can hit for power. Can take a walk. He can basically play anywhere in the infield (nice backup incase Travis gets injured as well). And then you could put Pearce in LF.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 J.D. Martinez is an appalling defender. That is all.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 In that same vein, how about Josh Harrison? Pirates apparently want to move him. The Jays need a 2B when Travis misses half the year, and Harrison has played some OF, 3B, etc, as well. Could be a versatile option. Harrison doesn't have much experience in the OF (and what little he does, he was terrible). Kendrick is actually above average in LF it appears, but still has the flexibility to fill in at 2nd if needed.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Kole Calhoun and Billy Hamilton please
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Huh? Last I saw he was traded a month ago to the Phillies, and the expectation was that he would be flipped. What did I miss? Who is expecting him to be flipped? I think it's obvious that they will try to trade him for profit at the trade deadline. That's different though.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Harrison doesn't have much experience in the OF (and what little he does, he was terrible). Kendrick is actually above average in LF it appears, but still has the flexibility to fill in at 2nd if needed. Think the other Josh (Bell) will always be this bad at D. Pirates are likely to move someone this off season.
Ray Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 J.D. Martinez is an appalling defender. That is all. He had the second worst UZR in the league iirc. Even Bautista was a better defender. No thanks to JD Martinez.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Think the other Josh (Bell) will always be this bad at D. Pirates are likely to move someone this off season. I still think they move Cutch. Wait for the hullabaloo to die down, teams will miss on targets, he'll look more attractive.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 JD Martinez broke his elbow running into the outfield wall in June. I wonder if that incident (associated fear) significantly impacted his defense in the second half.
SAAviour Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 At this point let see what Pompey has in him, platoon Zeke/Upton, and July 1st we can start talking about what JD will bring at the trade deadline and whether or not Rogers learned a lesson not to f*** around after setting attendance and tv records.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 I still think they move Cutch. Wait for the hullabaloo to die down, teams will miss on targets, he'll look more attractive. Exactly. Someone will pay their price. Then they have that Austin Meadows fellow that they'd like to unleash on the league.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 JD Martinez broke his elbow running into the outfield wall in June. I wonder if that incident (associated fear) significantly impacted his defense in the second half. While that narrative is a possible explanation for why 2016 was by far his worst defensive season, with the exception of 2015 (still was a negative defender, mind you), he's always been pretty pitiful.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Well said. Took the words right out of my mouth. Lmao that TheHurl edit.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Valbuena to 1B, with Pearce in LF is very appealing to me.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 What is with the circle jerk for Valbuena?
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Valbuena to 1B, with Pearce in LF is very appealing to me. How is this a better option than signing Bautista on a one or two year deal
TholesWeirdEye Verified Member Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 What is with the circle jerk for Valbuena?
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