Jays sign Morales 3 years 33M

[Terminator]

I don't know about this one. With the way contracts are turning out 11 mil isn't a big deal but the 3 years for a 33 year isn't my favorite.

[bones10]

Morales is s*** lol

[RealAccountant]

They are not burning $8.5M on a Smoak deal. I cant imgine they would do that. That is a contract that hasn't even kicked in yet.

[intentional wok]

How's his D? Is he half decent fielding?

 

I think he's basically a fence post at 1B. This is an inexpensive all-bat signing, really.

[BTS]

How's his D? Is he half decent fielding?

 

He's graded out as around average, but he hasn't had more than 51 starts at 1B since 2009. I think he'll lead the team in starts at DH.

[King]

I just turned on MLBTR app "Big Moves" notifications, and everything is instantaneous now. This is game changer.

[Brownie19]

This is basically this year's Happ signing.

 

Except with Happ - there was the possibility that the changes/improvements he made in Pitts would carry over and make him a top of the rotation starter. We know what we're getting in Morales. There isn't any upside besides more counting stats in a hitters park and better lineup.

[West Texas Forever]

They are not burning $8.5M on a Smoak deal. I cant imgine they would do that. That is a contract that hasn't even kicked in yet.

 

Could they move him though? They would have to eat some contract. Still waste of money with that Smoak deal.

[SweetSmellingChacin]

I don't think he could beat my grandmother in a race and my grandmother is 89.

[Daniel Labude]

Yeah - but his WAR total is suppressed because he was strictly a DH. Guys like Mauer, Dickerson, Napoli, etc. all gained defensive value by playing a position semi-regularly.

 

This looks better. 2015 & 2016, sorted by wRC+

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=dh&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=17,d

 

 

 

The biggest issue with Morales is he can't run.

 

Which isn't a problem unless we sign a bunch of speed.

[fatcowxlive]

Very low risk, I thought Morales was going to get more. I was comfortable with giving him like $10MM so this is fine, 3 years isn't that bad as well.

 

Very interested to see how Smoak will play into this

[UWHabs]

Do you honestly think they view Smoak as a starting player on this contending team? Regardless of what you perceive $4MM to be, they are not stupid and they are aware it's likely burned cash at this point.

 

The flaw is they just gave him that money a few months ago, so it'd be weird to give up on him so quickly after the deal. I don't think they have him written in in pen to the starting lineup, but wouldn't shock me if he was at least pencilled in.

[HERPDERP]

The agency is Wasserman..they also have Trumbo on the list

[RealAccountant]

This signing to me indicates that the market is higher than what we thought. Edwin could probably end up with 5/125 that he is looking for.

[SweetSmellingChacin]

EEs going to one of the Texas teams I'd guess.

[Angrioter]

Shapiro and his 2 cheap 1B deals.

[Terminator]

This signing to me indicates that the market is higher than what we thought. Edwin could probably end up with 5/125 that he is looking for.

 

Yeah the market could be more out of whack than what we realize.

[jaysguy44]

EEs going to one of the Texas teams I'd guess.

 

Boston

[Jonn]

Don't like Morales. Its not a huge financial commitment. But he's strictly a DH who can't run the bases at all. He better hit the s*** out of the ball.

[RealAccountant]

Now if you can add both Reddick and Bautista as mentioned in the other thread, you potentially have a perfect offence with Bautista and Morales splitting 1B/DH Bautista occasional OF if we need and Reddick being in there at other times.

 

Upton

Donaldson

Bautista

Morales

Tulo

Reddick

Martin

Travis

Pillar.

[SweetSmellingChacin]

Boston

 

I think they will go 4-5 years to get him.

[Brownie19]

Mike Napoli hit cleanup for Cleveland last year and they were a very good team. Morales is a switch hitting Mike Napoli who doesn't strike out as much.

 

I'm going to reserve judgement until I see how the rest of the offseason plays out.

[Jonn]

Now if you can add both Reddick and Bautista as mentioned in the other thread, you potentially have a perfect offence with Bautista and Morales splitting 1B/DH Bautista occasional OF if we need and Reddick being in there at other times.

 

Upton

Donaldson

Bautista

Morales

Tulo

Reddick

Martin

Travis

Pillar.

 

Upton leading off? The f*** is wrong with you?

[Governator]

They are not burning $8.5M on a Smoak deal. I cant imgine they would do that. That is a contract that hasn't even kicked in yet.

 

The flaw is they just gave him that money a few months ago, so it'd be weird to give up on him so quickly after the deal. I don't think they have him written in in pen to the starting lineup, but wouldn't shock me if he was at least pencilled in.

 

 

 

Smoak hasn't started more than 80 games in a season in 4 years... he was never extended to be a starting replacement. It was just a terrible decision and they have to live with it. At this point Smoak's role is an overpaid bench player with some backup 1B skills. There will be someone else, there has to be.

[Dr. Dinger]

Jays sign Morales on a 3 year deal

[BTS]

Jays sign Morales on a 3 year deal

 

Thanks for the tip

[GeorgiaPeach]

Don't like Morales. Its not a huge financial commitment. But he's strictly a DH who can't run the bases at all. He better hit the s*** out of the ball.

 

What does his base running have to do with anything?

 

If Bautista's knee didn't heal up and we kept him, would we see him getting gunned by 10 & 20 feet repeatedly???

[SweetSmellingChacin]

There`s a 0.0000000000000000000000001% chance they spend close to 40 million on (3) 1B-DH`s in EE, Morales, Smoak.

 

This is the EE replacement.

[BTS]

There`s a 0.0000000000000000000000001% chance they spend close to 40 million on (3) 1B-DH`s in EE, Morales, Smoak.

 

This is the EE replacement.

 

I think so too. I don't think they'll want to commit to using one of Morales and Edwin at 1B every day for the next three years. I expect a full-time 1B to be acquired now, for cheaper than Edwin. Probably also means Beltran and Holliday are out, as they're more DH types.

[Brownie19]

One thing is becoming evident.

 

Unlike with AA - there seems to be a lot more behind the "rumours" you hear with Shatkins in charge...Is Reddick next?