2016 Official Trade Deadline Thread

[King]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/07/31/jonathan-lucroy-vetoes-trade-indians/87884212/

 

Lucroy, who had the Indians on his non-trade list, vetoed the trade Sunday morning when the Indians would not only provide financial incentives for him to accept the deal, but also would not guarantee that he would be their everyday catcher in 2017, a person with direct knowledge of the trade told USA TODAY Sports. The person spoke only on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the talks.

[TheHurl]

Knew it!!! Wants an extension so he can secure long term placement for his family. Some players hate the constant moving, look at Brandon Phillips this year, rejected going back to Dusty Baker in a place where he's gaurenteed a playoff hunt

 

He wanted to use the no trade option as a negotiating tool to get paid better now and take the injury risk out of it! Lets not pretend it's about anything else.

[King]

LOL @ trading for Lucroy but guaranteeing him a starting catcher spot for 2017. How stupid

[King]

Indians: "Hey Jon! We just traded a haul of prospects for you. Glad to have you on board"

 

Lucroy: "Are you going to rip up my 2017 option so I can get a new deal?"

 

Indians: "No."

 

Lucroy: "If I am here in 2017 will I be the everyday catcher?"

 

Indians: "Well, we have Yan Gomes, so that is not for certain."

 

Lucroy: "..."

[fireballW]

He wanted to use the no trade option as a negotiating tool to get paid better now and take the injury risk out of it! Lets not pretend it's about anything else.

 

Smart decision. Otherwise what is the point of having a no trade claise if everyone just expects you'll waive it for nothing.

[L54]

I don't really blame Lucroy in this situation. Pay me and make me the guaranteed catcher. If not, f*** off.

[L54]

Pretty derpy of the Indians to not guarantee him the 2017 starting gig. I mean he's unarguably a top 5 catcher not matter how you look at it.

[Pendleton]

Indians: "Hey Jon! We just traded a haul of prospects for you. Glad to have you on board"

 

Lucroy: "Are you going to rip up my 2017 option so I can get a new deal?"

 

Indians: "No."

 

Lucroy: "If I am here in 2017 will I be the everyday catcher?"

 

Indians: "Well, we have Yan Gomes, so that is not for certain."

 

Lucroy: "..."

 

Haha yeah the whole thing makes no sense to me. Why give up a bounty to acquire a top flight catcher if you can't guarantee him a starting job the following year?

[Krylian]

Haha yeah the whole thing makes no sense for me. Why give up a bounty to acquire a top flight catcher if you can't guarantee him a starting job the following year.

 

A players performance should dictate playing time. If he blows ass in Cleveland they shouldn't be obligated to give him a starting role. Odds are he would be the #1, but guaranteeing it? Can't really blame am organization for not wanting to sign away flexibility.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Can he Catch a Knuckleball???

 

Does he have options Left???

 

Would he be a upgrade to Martin this year and moving forward???

 

If or is Martin tradable if you eat Half or a Third of his Salary?

 

What could one get if you traded Martin ? Starter, Reliever, prospect wise???

[glory]

 

[Pendleton]

A players performance should dictate playing time. If he blows ass in Cleveland they shouldn't be obligated to give him a starting role. Odds are he would be the #1, but guaranteeing it? Can't really blame am organization for not wanting to sign away flexibility.

 

I mean sure I agree to an extent, but when it comes to a guy like Lucroy who is elite at his position, you should be pretty safe offering him a starting job next year even if he completely tanks the rest of this season.

[Cyborg]

It's 1.5 years. Suck it up and play for a championship. This is the stuff that costs people money in free agency.

He wants the Mets.

[Krylian]

Apparently the Jays have inquired about Josh Reddick

[jerb]

 

Susan Slusser Verified account

‏@susanslusser Susan Slusser Retweeted Ken Rosenthal

Can confirm this and I don't get impression #BlueJays interest has waned much.Susan Slusser added,

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal

#Dodgers tried for Hill/Reddick package, as @pgammo reported. #BlueJays also contacted #Athletics about both players, per sources.

 

 

Susan Slusser Verified account

‏@susanslusser

The #BlueJays have had scouts at every #Athletics series for a month or more scouting Hill and Reddick, including current one.

[fireballW]

Would be pretty sweet to get both.

[L54]

The plot thickens

[L54]

Would be pretty sweet to get both.

 

Sure would.

[skirbs11]

So if we make a move for both Reddick and Hill, What does that do for our OF. Saunder, Pillar, Bautista, Upton and Reddick. Someone has to be on the move.

[TheHurl]

Smart decision. Otherwise what is the point of having a no trade claise if everyone just expects you'll waive it for nothing.

 

I am very big on a contract is a contract. What is Lucroy's trade value based on him only having a contract until the end of this year? Certainly not three prospects. Have it be known ahead of time that you are going to play that kind of a negotiation tactic and teams will base their trades on that knowledge...instead of having it go public. As much as it's smart on his part...it's also stupid cause he has to know that Cleveland is going to say "f*** you" every single time.

[Praxis]

Hill I get, but why Reddick? We just traded for Upton and he's only under contract for this year.

[glory]

Saunders in LF, Pillar in CF, Reddick in RF, Bautista at DH, Upton 4th OF, Carrera gone?

 

That's the only way that lineup would make sense, but Reddick seems a bit unnecessary right now. If he was signed beyond 2016, then absolutely. But as a rental, it would seem pointless unless an OF was going the other way.

[TheHurl]

He wants the Mets.

 

Then say too (I know he can't publicly) don't throw out some scenario that the Indians would be fools to accept.

[fireballW]

It is VERY unlikely Jose would waive his ntc but I think it would be a pretty sweet move to trade Bautista and trade for Reddick, assuming we would get star prospects back for Bautista.

[Jonn]

Josh Reddick is my wet dream. Yes please we can absolutely make it work. Basically Saunders and Bautista can rotate at DH in the field. Platoon Reddick and Upton. Peace out Zeke.

 

Donaldson and Reddick reunited and it feels so good

[jaysguy44]

If Reddick is traded here, I'd be really confused.

 

What would our lineup look like?

 

Reddick

Donaldson

EE

Saunders

Bautista

Tulowitzki

Martin

Pillar

Travis

 

Upton, Barney, Smoak, Thole on the bench?

[jaysguy44]

It is VERY unlikely Jose would waive his ntc but I think it would be a pretty sweet move to trade Bautista and trade for Reddick, assuming we would get star prospects back for Bautista.

 

I'd be happy with this

[Cyborg]

If Reddick is traded here, I'd be really confused.

 

What would our lineup look like?

 

Reddick

Donaldson

EE

Saunders

Bautista

Tulowitzki

Martin

Pillar

Travis

 

Upton, Barney, Smoak, Thole on the bench?

 

He would not lead off but you got the players right.

 

Bautista

Donaldson

EE

Saunders

Tulo

Reddick

Martin

Pillar

Travis

 

Is the likely scenario against righties. Upton would play aginst lefties instead of Reddick or Saunders.

[Jonn]

Get 2 months of Reddick mashing RHP. Give yourself a negotiating window. Playoff run. Josh Donaldson and him are a close. Hes a guy I thought we would chase in the off-season. We can get an extension done. As long as the prospect price you do that deal even without Rich Hill.

[jaysguy44]

He would not lead off but you got the players right.

 

Bautista

Donaldson

EE

Saunders

Tulo

Reddick

Martin

Pillar

Travis

 

Is the likely scenario against righties. Upton would play aginst lefties instead of Reddick or Saunders.

 

That works to. I just really dislike Bautista's average for a lead off guy, although he does walk often