Justin Smoak contract extension

[thatoneguy]

Basically this.

 

[Spanky99]

You guys don't get nothing.

[Dick_Pole]

Board consensus IIRC:

 

2014-15: Stroman is ace. The second that people admit he's been disappointing this year, he pitches better.

2014-15: Sanchez is dogshit. Reliever or back end starter at best. (Yeah ok JimCanuck, we know)

Early 2016: Tulowitzki is done, what an albatross of a contract

Early 2016: Martin - see above

Several year ago: Travis Snider is a future HOFer, it's all Cito's fault he sucks right now.

Mid-May after Rays beating and before heading to Minnesota: This team is s***, time to think about selling off everything they can.

June: Smoak's been a useful contributor, I wonder if the Jays are able to extend him at a reasonable contract.

 

The opinion expressed here over the past few pages gives me hope that everything will be just fine going forward with Smoak

[CrackerJack]

do you think the Jays will pick up Smoaky's $6M option for 2019?

[Governator]

I'd give my left arm just to have a guy like a healthy David Cooper out there.

 

That's pretty extreme.

[Krylian]

do you think the Jays will pick up Smoaky's $6M option for 2019?

 

Won't that depend on 2017 and 2018 first?

[CrackerJack]

Won't that depend on 2017 and 2018 first?

 

yes, of course. i'm asking to look inside your crystal ball.

[Grant77]

yes, of course. i'm asking to look inside your crystal ball.

 

[Krylian]

yes, of course. i'm asking to look inside your crystal ball.

 

Yes.

[intentional wok]

Smoak has never had a 1-win season in six years. The quality of his presence on the team seems to simply be how many of his caveman swings actually connect over ~300 PAs. But even in an up year he's barely worth it.

[Spanky99]

Can we not care about Smoak, what's done is done. He's just a bench piece.

[puphood]

Blue Jay's Smoak memorabilia signed prints on sale on lime 20% off...pretty optimistic sellers

[puphood]

Can we not care about Smoak, what's done is done. He's just a bench piece.

 

Gibby says Smoak is starting on first, things can change but I think you need to go to a optometrist not a optimist with that kind of insight..........

[Ray]

First basemen we could've gotten this offseason for cheaper (or just slightly more) rather than Justin Smoak:

 

Brandon Moss ($6 million)

Chris Carter ($3.5 million)

Pedro Alvarez (N/A)

Adam Lind (Minor League Deal)

Mitch Moreland ($5.5 million)

Justin Morneau (N/A)

Logan Morrison ($2.5 million)

Trevor Plouffe ($5.25 million)

Sean Rodriguez ($5.75 million)

Eric Thames ($5 million)

Dae Ho Lee ($2 million)

 

Not counting the plethora of relievesr who would've cost about the same if not slightly more than Smoak, but would've provided a lot more value out of the pen than he would outta first base.

[Bobthe4th]

First basemen we could've gotten this offseason for cheaper (or just slightly more) rather than Justin Smoak:

 

Brandon Moss ($6 million)

Chris Carter ($3.5 million)

Pedro Alvarez (N/A)

Adam Lind (Minor League Deal)

Mitch Moreland ($5.5 million)

Justin Morneau (N/A)

Logan Morrison ($2.5 million)

Trevor Plouffe ($5.25 million)

Sean Rodriguez ($5.75 million)

Eric Thames ($5 million)

Dae Ho Lee ($2 million)

 

Not counting the plethora of relievesr who would've cost about the same if not slightly more than Smoak, but would've provided a lot more value out of the pen than he would outta first base.

 

At least we got Pearce for $6.25m x2 years, who will hopefully be the full time 1B by the end of the first month of the season.

[Terminator]

First basemen we could've gotten this offseason for cheaper (or just slightly more) rather than Justin Smoak:

 

Brandon Moss ($6 million)

Chris Carter ($3.5 million)

Pedro Alvarez (N/A)

Adam Lind (Minor League Deal)

Mitch Moreland ($5.5 million)

Justin Morneau (N/A)

Logan Morrison ($2.5 million)

Trevor Plouffe ($5.25 million)

Sean Rodriguez ($5.75 million)

Eric Thames ($5 million)

Dae Ho Lee ($2 million)

 

Not counting the plethora of relievesr who would've cost about the same if not slightly more than Smoak, but would've provided a lot more value out of the pen than he would outta first base.

 

Geezus, Steamer is projecting a 124 wRC+ for Eric Thames. That was a hell of a signing.

[Sammy225]

Geezus, Steamer is projecting a 124 wRC+ for Eric Thames. That was a hell of a signing.

 

Out of comparison sake what was steamer projecting Park to be last season if that information is available.

[G-Snarls]

Geezus, Steamer is projecting a 124 wRC+ for Eric Thames. That was a hell of a signing.

 

But how could that system possibly know what to expect from him? He's been out of MLB for 2 full seasons.

[Terminator]

But how could that system possibly know what to expect from him? He's been out of MLB for 2 full seasons.

 

Oh yeah I agree, their prediction isn't worth much. I still think it's a good signing though. Really low AAV yet they got him locked in for 3 years. If he really does hit like that he provides surplus value in year 1 of the deal. At worst he's probably still a fine bench bat.

[Angrioter]

ShAtkins is good

[Brownie19]

Board consensus IIRC:

 

2014-15: Stroman is ace. The second that people admit he's been disappointing this year, he pitches better.

2014-15: Sanchez is dogshit. Reliever or back end starter at best. (Yeah ok JimCanuck, we know)

Early 2016: Tulowitzki is done, what an albatross of a contract

Early 2016: Martin - see above

Several year ago: Travis Snider is a future HOFer, it's all Cito's fault he sucks right now.

Mid-May after Rays beating and before heading to Minnesota: This team is s***, time to think about selling off everything they can.

June: Smoak's been a useful contributor, I wonder if the Jays are able to extend him at a reasonable contract.

 

The opinion expressed here over the past few pages gives me hope that everything will be just fine going forward with Smoak

 

Dick Pole for the win!

[TBJ12]

Oh yeah I agree, their prediction isn't worth much. I still think it's a good signing though. Really low AAV yet they got him locked in for 3 years. If he really does hit like that he provides surplus value in year 1 of the deal. At worst he's probably still a fine bench bat.

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I wouldn't say the prediction wasn't worth much. Steamer projected him to be well above average hitter and so far he's been that and then some. I don't see a bench bat anywhere in the near future with that 17.2% BB rate!

 

I was hoping to see him steal 20 or more, but that doesn't look like it's happenning.

[ChrisS]

FO made us all look silly. LOL at reading some of these comments now.

[AdamGreenwood]

All quiet on the 'why did we sign Smoak to a 2-year contract?' front.

[Laika]

Guy has a 92 wRC+ and his only position is an average 1B. I really wish he wasn't signed for next year.

 

Idiot

[Laika]

Lol I loved checking in on this thread and seeing all the AA-hating, Shapiro-fellating fanboys recoiling in disgust.

 

f***ing stooge

[Laika]

Smoak can easily be benched or traded or whatever at that salary. It's what the Rays gave LoMo. It's the going rate for a platoon 1B. Doesn't block anybody or impede any future moves.

 

Reasonable post. Funny that you mentioned LoMo and they are both having breakout seasons.

[Laika]

Fire Shapiro thread

 

Leave the board forever

[Angrioter]

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/9iwMPyg.png

 

This is not sexy.

 

I don't see the hurry to extend Smoak at all.

 

Stupid move imo

 

Projections have him at ~95 wRC+. I don't really understand the desire to have that taking up space for the next two years.

 

Fire Shapiro thread

 

1B with average bat is the new market inefficiency.

 

Goodbye Edwin, and welcome draft pick.

 

We gonna eat dick without Edwin. :-(

 

Shapiro is better than us

[Spanky99]

This is a good deal if he pans out--I mean, despite the low average and K issues, he's also getting on base a lot (.333 OBP). Many teams would've likely offered him quite a bit of money in this awful free agent market lacking in depth..

 

Next up, the Jays need to lock up Saunders and one of EE/Bautista.

 

he got $3.90m this year. he gets a very minor raise to $4.25m the next 2 seasons. i dont read to much into projecting a bigger role for him, just that they really like him in the role he has now and dont want to mess with it.

 

i do agree why pay smoak now when you can just play it by ear and no doubt get the same deal later on?

 

I like the deal. 4.25 m is nothing nowadays. They clearly value his power potential. He values 1 war at 9m. I think he believes in smock and bought low by doing it now.

 

Meh, not a big deal, but the timing is odd.

 

Smoak is going to be paid like a part time player and the Jays have 12 free agents this upcoming offseason. It's about covering their ass. Shut the f*** up.

 

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush, bud.

 

Would anyone have been surprised if Smoak got 2/7M? Paid an extra 1.5M to get it done in season and to get an option year in 2019. It's not a sexy move by any means but it keeps guys like Jesus Montero out of the Rogers Centre.

 

You guys don't get nothing.

 

Board consensus IIRC:

 

2014-15: Stroman is ace. The second that people admit he's been disappointing this year, he pitches better.

2014-15: Sanchez is dogshit. Reliever or back end starter at best. (Yeah ok JimCanuck, we know)

Early 2016: Tulowitzki is done, what an albatross of a contract

Early 2016: Martin - see above

Several year ago: Travis Snider is a future HOFer, it's all Cito's fault he sucks right now.

Mid-May after Rays beating and before heading to Minnesota: This team is s***, time to think about selling off everything they can.

June: Smoak's been a useful contributor, I wonder if the Jays are able to extend him at a reasonable contract.

 

The opinion expressed here over the past few pages gives me hope that everything will be just fine going forward with Smoak

 

Can we not care about Smoak, what's done is done. He's just a bench piece.

 

Shapiro is better than us

 

Smart.