GDT.. New York Yankees(Sabathia) @ Toronto Blue Jays(Happ) Game 2/3.. 707 PM (May 31)

[Olerud363]

Ok so how many years of control do Jays have?

 

6 years including this one.

[gbill2004]

He'll be considered 1st year this season, period.

You still didn't answer the question. Just admit you don't know the answer then! lol

[gbill2004]

6 years including this one.

Thank you.

[Spanky99]

You still didn't answer the question. Just admit you don't know the answer then! lol

 

Uhmmm....

[fatcowxlive]

He'll be considered 1st year this season, period. 6 years counting 2016.

 

E: Once again: This is why the Jays were elated to land him in the rule 5 draft.

 

Wow. Great control! Then he has options too right?

[Spanky99]

Wow. Great control! Then he has options too right?

 

Yes, all 3.

[fatcowxlive]

Yes, all 3.

Wow!!! Great job by Atkins and co. To land him!

[Spanky99]

Wow!!! Great job by Atkins and co. To land him!

 

No one listened to me, when I said the FO landed a stud. We'll see, he's an SP.

[Deadpool]

No one listened to me, when I said the FO landed a stud. We'll see, he's an SP.

 

I'd love to see them try both him and Osuna as SP next spring training...

[43211234]

Biagini's slider looked outstanding tonight. Looks like it could be better than his curve.

 

Reminds me of Liam Hendriks' slider in terms of movement and velocity.

[Daniel Labude]

Lets Go Blue Jays!!!!!!!!!!

 

Blue Jays Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Osuna Matata!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingKat]

Biagini was not a particularly good starter in the minors and he wasn't that young either. Twenty-five in AA last year. Turning him into a reliever seems to have been the key to unlocking his potential. Giants probably should have converted him themselves but that's neither here nor there. Now that he's doing so well, I see no reason to move him back to starting.

[Spanky99]

I'd love to see them try both him and Osuna as SP next spring training...

 

Same, they both have 4 pitches.

[thatoneguy]

Man what a piece of hitting that single from Barney was. Betances threw practically a perfect slurve and he spoiled it.

[intentional wok]

this was the sunset last night...

 

http://i64.tinypic.com/5ue4o8.jpg

 

I know I probably asked before but what time block do you watch these games? 1-4am? 2-5?

[intentional wok]

Today's late-game stars:

 

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/hornyhobbit/Characters/barney.gif

 

http://wondersofdisney2.yolasite.com/resources/aladdin/genie/genielamp.png

 

http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb/images/clippumb.gif

[John_Havok]

How about we don't s*** on the back up infielder and just enjoy it while it lasts. Small sample size is a thing. But right now Darwin Barney is helping us win games.

 

Nobody is "s***ing" on him. He's had a great run. But the question I was answering was "when can we start buying into this as, perhaps, a new approach?"

 

Given his extremely high babip,chances are it's not a new approach, just a simple hot streak of noise in the grand scheme of things, just like Colabello ran for about 4 months last year.

 

I'm not saying he's trash, just that he's not the great hitter that his slash would suggest on the surface. And yes, enjoy it while it lasts.

[John_Havok]

6 years including this one.

 

The more precise answer would be 6 years of service time, which could turn into 7 seasons of control if he's optioned once or twice in the next 2 years, because when you opton a player to the minors he stops accruing service time until he comes back up. He can't be optioned this year since he was a rule 5 pick and has to be on the 25 man roster all year. If they wanted to option him this year, the Jays would have to offer him back to SF first and they would have to turn down taking him back, which likely wouldn't happen.

 

But as long as he spends all year on the 25 man this year, he can be optioned next year 2017 and the following year 2018for short stints that would stall his service time and gain an extra year of control

[nextyear]

Nobody is "s***ing" on him. He's had a great run. But the question I was answering was "when can we start buying into this as, perhaps, a new approach?"

 

Given his extremely high babip,chances are it's not a new approach, just a simple hot streak of noise in the grand scheme of things, just like Colabello ran for about 4 months last year.

 

I'm not saying he's trash, just that he's not the great hitter that his slash would suggest on the surface. And yes, enjoy it while it lasts.

 

 

I get frustrated when I hear talk about BABIP and how it will regress to 0.300. I previously posted a link (a year ago) where the author shows that BABIP is much higher for line drive hitters than ground ball hitters. Barney has been hitting line drives instead of seeing-eye ground balls (ground balls are more a matter of chance and infield alignment).

 

Although this doesn't relate to Barney's case, home run hitters BABIP excludes home runs, so BABIP can't be considered to be a fair correlation for home run hitters.

 

If one wants to correlate BABIP to batting average then BABIP should be grouped into BABIP for predominantly ground ball hitters, BABIP for line drive hitters, and adjusted BABIP for all hitters to include home runs.

[Krylian]

I'd love to see them try both him and Osuna as SP next spring training...

 

I've given up hope that we'll ever see Osuna as a starter again.

[Governator]

I've given up hope that we'll ever see Osuna as a starter again.

 

Yea probably, though if they decide mid season to firesale and rebuild, I could see them moving him to starter to increase his future value knowing next year would be a write off anyway.

[43211234]

Biagini was not a particularly good starter in the minors and he wasn't that young either. Twenty-five in AA last year. Turning him into a reliever seems to have been the key to unlocking his potential. Giants probably should have converted him themselves but that's neither here nor there. Now that he's doing so well, I see no reason to move him back to starting.

 

This.