GDT(2/3): Tampa Bay Rays @ Your Toronto Blue Jays - Archer vs. Stroman - 7:07 PM ET

[Atothe]

It happens. Stroman just laying an egg

[burlingtonbandit]

This isn't a philosophy thing, Stroman just doesn't have command tonight.

[West Texas Forever]

If anyone wants to see a legit Ace, Thor is pitching vs Scherzer

[Daniel Labude]

They stubbornly don't change their game plans.

 

Difference is their hitters are aggressive so anything in the zone they are going after while our hitters look for walks and miss meatballs

[Belliss101]

Maybe Stroman will snap his knee fielding a ground ball again and he'll revert back to his swing and miss stuff.

 

I know...terrible thing for me to say. But I'm incredibly frustrated

[thatoneguy]

It happens. Stroman just laying an egg

 

It's going to keep happening if he shies away from challenging hitters.

[BlueJays]

Can Stroman go back to Duke?

[Horses Fart]

Tampa having trouble scoring runs until they come to our stupid pitching philosophy. You'd think that pitching to a team that hacks like crazy, you'd pitch with swing and miss stuff

 

Wait til the 10 win Twins go off on us and take 3 of 4.

[Daniel Labude]

If anyone wants to see a legit Ace, Thor is pitching vs Scherzer

 

How is that going?

[thatoneguy]

Maybe Stroman will snap his knee fielding a ground ball again and he'll revert back to his swing and miss stuff.

 

I know...terrible thing for me to say. But I'm incredibly frustrated

 

f*** off.

[BigCecil]

6 hits and no K's through 2.

 

Stro's approach has limitations that really keep him from being 1/2 a lot of people think he can be.

[THANOS]

Someone needs to sit his ass down and tell him to stop pitching to contact and nibbling the corners. He's not Greg Maddux and doesn't have the control to do it effectively. In fact, his BB/9 have actually increased when pitching to contact.

[EdwinsParrot]

Lol at making the rays look like an offensive juggernaut

[burlingtonbandit]

He's working the corners and pitching to contact. He's pitching with the exact same philosophy that he did in April and he's getting burned for it.

 

He needs to stop nibbling.

 

You make it sound like if he was throwing 4 seamers this wouldn't happen lol. He just doesn't have command tonight as you could tell his breaking ball is either hung up or bounced. He's still a young pitcher and it happens.

[West Texas Forever]

Maybe Stroman will snap his knee fielding a ground ball again and he'll revert back to his swing and miss stuff.

 

I know...terrible thing for me to say. But I'm incredibly frustrated

 

Silence.

[Belliss101]

I fully expect to be 3 games under .500 after this game

[bones10]

Martin please do something today

[John_Havok]

That's true, his command has been awful tonight

[thatoneguy]

I fully expect to be 3 games under .500 after this game

 

No s*** sherlock.

[West Texas Forever]

How is that going?

 

Scherzer game up a first pitch homerun to Granderson but other than that pitchers duel. 1-0 Mets

[Terminator]

He's just always around the zone with his 2 seamer. ALWAYS

 

The hitters can just wait on it and put it in play, often hard enough to get through the infield. Even with 2 strikes he's doing it. It's infuriating.

[THANOS]

This isn't a philosophy thing, Stroman just doesn't have command tonight.

 

Well then he shouldn't be trying to nibble when he doesn't have his best command.

[King]

Maybe Stroman will snap his knee fielding a ground ball again and he'll revert back to his swing and miss stuff.

 

I know...terrible thing for me to say. But I'm incredibly frustrated

 

WTF?

 

 

 

cf

[thatoneguy]

He's just always around the zone with his 2 seamer. ALWAYS

 

The hitters can just wait on it and put it in play, often hard enough to get through the infield. Even with 2 strikes he's doing it. It's infuriating.

 

Something tells me he's too egotistical to change it either without someone actually saying something.

[intentional wok]

Archer not doing himself any favours but the Jays need to step up and start bloodying some noses.

[West Texas Forever]

Will Goins hit for a higher average/rbis/hrs than Martin by the end of the season?

[King]

That will do.

[BigCecil]

He's just always around the zone with his 2 seamer. ALWAYS

 

The hitters can just wait on it and put it in play, often hard enough to get through the infield. Even with 2 strikes he's doing it. It's infuriating.

 

Yup and with mostly everything down....they just look there....all the time. Eventually they get to him. Tonight it was early.

[thatoneguy]

Yup and with mostly everything down....they just look there....all the time. Eventually they get to him. Tonight it was early.

 

Wait until he does this against Mike Trout.

[THANOS]

You make it sound like if he was throwing 4 seamers this wouldn't happen lol. He just doesn't have command tonight as you could tell his breaking ball is either hung up or bounced. He's still a young pitcher and it happens.

 

If he's throwing 4SM and working the entire strike-zone, this probably isn't happening.