gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Probably not thread worthy, but I'm interested in knowing if Reddick could be a financial fit next year, assuming we lose Bautista and/or EE. Thoughts?
BTS Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M. With money freed up, would he be worth 4/100, even with some injury concerns?
spittin Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Oh man life without EE and JB is starting to look pretty depressing. Not a knock on Reddick he's good, but there's no guarantee we sign him or anyone else at the top of the list. A core of Tulo, Martin and Stro with 22 plugs is gross.
spittin Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 With money freed up, would he be worth 4/100, even with some injury concerns? f*** no, rather sign Bautista for that.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M. I don't see him getting that much... Probably more of a Martin-type contract. 5/85
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I don't see any big ticket signings on the Jays horizon. Gonna be chasing blue chippers.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M. He won't get $100M.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M. wat he might get half that if he has a really strong year To answer the OP - sure, he could be a good fit. So much will depend on whether or not they extend EE and JB. Toronto could have a lot of cash to work with, or not much at all.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 f*** no, rather sign Bautista for that. One problem. Bautista won't sign for that.
Governator Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M. If they sign Nick Swisher I'm never watching Blue Jays again.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 That Cleveland MO s*** doesn't fly here though. They have a much larger budget to work with and a ton of money coming off the books.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 That Cleveland MO s*** doesn't fly here though. They have a much larger budget to work with and a ton of money coming off the books. Can't buy your way to the championship, bro. Unless your the Dodgers, and even then..... Jays need cost controlled youth.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 My guess is they acquire stop gaps everywhere, not unlike what the Orioles did this off-season. Something like Bruce, Santana, and Moss to fill RF, DH, and 1B respectively. The free agent market for hitters isn't very good, and to acquire the type of players that they need (young, controllable, high upside) it will take trading top prospects that they can't afford to move (or don't have enough of to move).
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 My guess is they acquire stop gaps everywhere, not unlike what the Orioles did this off-season. Something like Bruce, Santana, and Moss to fill RF, DH, and 1B respectively. The free agent market for hitters isn't very good, and to acquire the type of players that they need (young, controllable, high upside) it will take trading top prospects that they can't afford to move (or don't have enough of to move). Unless this team gels and is looking like a playoff team, the best thing is to move JB, EE, Tulo, even Cecil for cost controlled youth at the deadline.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Why are we talking about next year already? lol
glory Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Unless this team gels and is looking like a playoff team, the best thing is to move JB, EE, Tulo, even Cecil for cost controlled youth at the deadline. I've said before, there's no negative outcome to this season. If they make the playoffs again, awesome. That's the preferred result. However, if they don't, then trade everyone at the deadline and start the 2017 retool early. Well, on second thought, there might be one negative outcome, which would be keeping everyone, finishing with 81 wins and missing the playoffs entirely. Have to hope this is a boom or bust type of team, rather than one that floats around .500 all year.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Why are we talking about next year already? lol this season's pretty much done
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Why are we talking about next year already? lol We like to talk about the future sometimes?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 It would be very unlike their Cleveland MO. He might get $100M. Why the f*** would a platoon right fielder who's a 2.5-3.5 WAR player get $100M? He's awful vs. LHP and a career 105 wRC+ If they sign Nick Swisher I'm never watching Blue Jays again. Swisher was arguably better than Reddick when the Indian's signed him...a much better hitter.
BTS Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Why the f*** would a platoon right fielder who's a 2.5-3.5 WAR player get $100M? He's awful vs. LHP and a career 105 wRC+ Swisher was arguably better than Reddick when the Indian's signed him...a much better hitter. 100M might be pushing it, but he's a better player than guys like Ian Kennedy and Wei-yin Chen and the market is barren this offseason. If he repeats his 2015 I think he gets 75+M
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 With 2 wild cards it'll be really hard for this team to be out of it at the deadline I think. The only way the team would be out of it at the deadline is if there are some major injuries
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 The only way the team would be out of it at the deadline is if there are some major injuries Exactly. Jays were one game under at the all-star break last year. With the level of parity in the AL there might be no teams out of it in July.
Carp12 Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Tim dierkes. Mlbtraderumors is predicting a possible 100M 6. Josh Reddick. Reddick doesn’t carry the same health or age concerns as the other outfielders on this list. He recently turned 29, and he played in 149 games last year. Reddick has evolved as a hitter, dropping his strikeout rate to 11.2% last year. He’s got 20 home run pop and a good defensive reputation, if not the numbers to back up the latter in recent years. He could be a candidate for a surprising five-year deal approaching $100MM. The A’s are at least exploring an extension.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Tim dierkes. Mlbtraderumors is predicting a possible 100M 6. Josh Reddick. Reddick doesn’t carry the same health or age concerns as the other outfielders on this list. He recently turned 29, and he played in 149 games last year. Reddick has evolved as a hitter, dropping his strikeout rate to 11.2% last year. He’s got 20 home run pop and a good defensive reputation, if not the numbers to back up the latter in recent years. He could be a candidate for a surprising five-year deal approaching $100MM. The A’s are at least exploring an extension. He's not really predicting it if he says it would be surprising
Nafro Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Yeah I would say "surprising five year deal approaching 100 million" is not saying "5 years at 100 million". Did Josh Reddick's agent start this thread?
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I'd take Bautista over him tbh, I still think we can squeeze at least 3.5 WAR over the next 2 years out of him, which would be best case scenario from Reddick who's already 29. Bautista's been aging well
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I think I remember reading how if you were to take clutch stats and add it to a player's value Reddick's WAR decreased by like 6 wins or something ridiculous. Obviously there's noise in clutch stats but its interesting how remarkable unclutch he has been in his career. Found the article http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/josh-reddick-has-been-the-anti-willie-bloomquist/ Dead last clutch score in the last 40 years.
Lil Looper Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Didnt JD drew get like 70-80 million from the red sox for 5 years? Reddick is better IMO, younger and that was like 10 years ago, contracts are up Reddick 5/90 o 5/95 is a given based on the market
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Didnt JD drew get like 70-80 million from the red sox for 5 years? Reddick is better IMO, younger and that was like 10 years ago, contracts are up Reddick 5/90 o 5/95 is a given based on the market Drew was basically twice the player Reddick is: http://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?players=1152,3892
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