Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I was a Sanchez non-believer, but if he proves me wrong and becomes an ace, or even a solid MLB starter, I'll be thrilled. It's when I'm wrong the other way (expect greatness, get a dud) where I get pissed. More Sanchez starts with 0 walks, tons of GB's, and a good K rate? Bring it on. You weren't really wrong though because you never stated that Sanchez would be bad. That's the good thing about making non-definitive statements on things that are unknowns. You'd bump into trouble if you, say, started bragging about how great JP Arencibia is after he has a hot couple games and slamming people who weren't on the bandwagon.
puphood Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 What I saw was he didn't fall apart after they scored on him tonight.....keeping my fingers crossed he stays healthy......
Stoneyen Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 16 whiffs tonight! What's that, like 17% swstr?!
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 16 whiffs tonight! What's that, like 17% swstr?! 17.5%, absurd really
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 16 whiffs tonight! What's that, like 17% swstr?! 17.5%, absurd really That's just insane..
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 It was a great start, but only one... lets not get the Cy Young votes going just yet.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 It was a great start, but only one... lets not get the Cy Young votes going just yet. No but that truly was like watching a butterfly hatch out of a caterpillar cocoon. He hatched into a completely different skill set. I think if you combine this performance with the spring, it's time to buy in, he's different and he looks to be legit. I mean a 17% SwStr% on this start as a whole is amazing. His FIP, xFIP, K/9, BB/9, GB% should reveal all after the next few starts, but he really does look tremendous.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 The changeup seems like the x-factor. We saw how great of a pitcher he can be if he can throw an effective changeup. Expecting this every outing would be silly but even with the command it is such a gamebreaker. The slide pissed me the f*** off but seeing this Sanchez start makes me really excited for the Blue Jays rotation and season. If he can be a number 3 the Blue Jays look scary as hell.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 If you want to go looking for bad things in Sanchez' start, a fair number of fastballs did completely get away from him. It's not like he had great command or anything. "Effectively wild" though.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 If you want to go looking for bad things in Sanchez' start, a fair number of fastballs did completely get away from him. "Effectively wild" though. the one over Longoria's head probably helped him get the out. lol
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 17.5%, absurd really I LOVE the new profile pic by the way. Keep rustlin' those jimmies.
mtljaysfan Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Tonight's Sanchez is the Sanchez we all hope to see as Jays fans. Now I can't wait to wtach his next start, especially against a more potent offense like RedSux. It'll be telling.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 If you want to go looking for bad things in Sanchez' start, a fair number of fastballs did completely get away from him. It's not like he had great command or anything. "Effectively wild" though. Command, no, but he did have pretty good control. I think he doesn't need to have expert command as long as he can harness his control like tonight, and that change and curve continue to flash plus.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 If you want to go looking for bad things in Sanchez' start, a fair number of fastballs did completely get away from him. It's not like he had great command or anything. "Effectively wild" though. It was like either he hit the spot perfectly, or missed by a foot. There was a change that was supposed to be low that was out of the zone high IIRC.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 What the f*** is going on somebody hold me add Sanchez in all of your fantasy leagues lol
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Change: http://i.imgur.com/B5whWnY.gif
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Curve: http://i.imgur.com/cmLXFRp.gif
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Fastball (4 seam): http://i.imgur.com/tVoxudW.gif
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Fastball (2 seam): http://i.imgur.com/6FFYe2u.gif
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 7 of his whiffs came from the "4 seam". PitchFX does have different movement values and there was a two and a half inch difference in drop and 2 inch difference is horizontal movement. If he could use his 2 seam for GB and looking K's and his 4 seam for whiffs it could be like adding another pitch. http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx.php?month=4&day=5&year=2016&game=gid_2016_04_05_tormlb_tbamlb_1%2F&pitchSel=592717&prevGame=gid_2016_04_05_tormlb_tbamlb_1%2F&prevDate=45&league=mlb
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Thats such filth. That changeup low and away to Lefties was amazing all night.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I think we can all agree that this was the highlight of the night though http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/16285926/v574364583/tortb-dickersons-blast-gets-the-rays-on-the-board/?query=Dickerson
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I'd be happy if reliever Sanchez could go 100 pitches, but we've never even seen this Sanchez before.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Pedro Martinez @45PedroMartinez 45m45 minutes ago Aaron Sanchez has a tail to his fastball that is unique; the gap between it and his breaking ball and the spin it creates is special Pedro Martinez @45PedroMartinez 50m50 minutes ago Aaron Sanchez has no ceiling. He has all the tools to become a number one starter. He is a special kid
Cyborg Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 This makes me remember this game: http://m.mlb.com/video/v31780897/tortb-buehrle-dominates-rays-fans-11-over-8-23/?query=Mark+Buehrle+rays
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Pedro Martinez @45PedroMartinez 45m45 minutes ago Aaron Sanchez has a tail to his fastball that is unique; the gap between it and his breaking ball and the spin it creates is special Pedro Martinez @45PedroMartinez 50m50 minutes ago Aaron Sanchez has no ceiling. He has all the tools to become a number one starter. He is a special kid I still find it amazing how simply adding some weight to his frame balanced out his mechanics so much to allow for this type of metamorphosis.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 The best thing about this performance is you just know that Stroman is dying to try and top it now lol. Their friendly competition is going to be great this season!
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I still find it amazing how simply adding some weight to his frame balanced out his mechanics so much to allow for this type of metamorphosis. I got scolded for suggesting that IIRC.
Maahfaace Verified Member Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Its going to be awhile before guys like NJH Boxy Ang come around on Sanchez, they've spent so much effort providing information that he is destined to fail. But to be honest, more often than not, said information is usually correct when projecting guys going forward. That said, it really is starting to appear that Sanchez might be turning into something pretty decent, lets just refrain from the "I told you so" BS, as it really is exhausting to read over and over.
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