Blue Jays and Edwin have opened contract negotiation talks

[G-Snarls]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/encarnacion-blue-jays-hold-preliminary-contract-talks/

[BTS]

Get it done Shatkins.

[gruber92]

This needs to get done, Bautista will be gone and can't lose both.

 

4/90.

[Stangstag]

Get it done Shatkins.

 

Why? The best thing would be to just let the season play out. If we re-sign them now, we lose the flexibility to trade them at the deadline if we have to.

 

Also, they'll probably put in alot more effort for a contract year.

[JuniorFelix]

Why? The best thing would be to just let the season play out. If we re-sign them now, we lose the flexibility to trade them at the deadline if we have to.

 

Also, they'll probably put in alot more effort for a contract year.

If you don't sign him now, and he puts up a monster season, we stand a very good chance of getting out-bidded.

[TilsonBritoFan]

See if he signs a 3/63 deal. If not try for 4/80. I'd like to see it happen and I think he would resign now for 4/80. Then no matter what we have 3 star hitters going forward in Tulo/JD/Edwin.

 

And on a side note, to the idiots who I keep hearing call into The Fan 590 suggesting trade Tulo to free up space to sign both Joey and Edwin, are they nuts? Tulo's deal pays him $20 mill for the next 4 years, then drops to 14 mill in 2020 and there is a 15 mill option in 2021, his age 36 season. Thats not an insane amount for a player of his caliber, if he can stay relatively healthy will end up looking like a bargain in the long run. $30 mill/year is going to be the new $20 mill/year.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/toronto-blue-jays/troy-tulowitzki/

[flafson]

One thing I noticed since Shatkins came over, there are a lot more leaks than during the AA era.

[RealAccountant]

Well I hope they find a way to keep both

[TheHurl]

One thing I noticed since Shatkins came over, there are a lot more leaks than during the AA era.

 

The guy is an open book...always has been. He's appeared on MLB Radio every week for about 7 years.

 

As for the extension. EE signing at a number that this F.O. is willing to sign him for (under market value) is going to make Bats look pretty greedy. I'd be most comfortable giving him 2 years with 2 big number buyout options (like a $7M buyout as a show of good faith). If NL gets the DH his value goes up, so maybe he gets an offer close to market. I really don't know anything and added nothing to this conversation. I'm just going to ban myself now.

[Governator]

Why? The best thing would be to just let the season play out. If we re-sign them now, we lose the flexibility to trade them at the deadline if we have to.

 

Also, they'll probably put in alot more effort for a contract year.

 

We don't have flexibility in trading EE and putting in more effort for a contract year thing doesn't usually apply. Wouldn't you put more effort in winning for a team you want to retire with over a team you won't be playing for in a few months?

[Angrioter]

The guy is an open book...always has been. He's appeared on MLB Radio every week for about 7 years.

 

As for the extension. EE signing at a number that this F.O. is willing to sign him for (under market value) is going to make Bats look pretty greedy. I'd be most comfortable giving him 2 years with 2 big number buyout options (like a $7M buyout as a show of good faith). If NL gets the DH his value goes up, so maybe he gets an offer close to market. I really don't know anything and added nothing to this conversation. I'm just going to ban myself now.

 

Already posted by me. Gran verdad about Edwin future vale

[Frenchsoup]

This needs to get done, Bautista will be gone and can't lose both.

 

4/90.

 

4/100 and you got yourself a deal.

[KingKat]

It doesn't make sense to be opposed to this without even knowing what the terms will be. Nothing wrong with negotiating with a player with a stated interest to stay. You can always walk away if you don't come to terms but I suspect they'll find something that works for everyone.

[Stangstag]

We don't have flexibility in trading EE and putting in more effort for a contract year thing doesn't usually apply. Wouldn't you put more effort in winning for a team you want to retire with over a team you won't be playing for in a few months?

 

Like I said, its a contract year. There has been a history of guys having crazy contract/walk seasons and then turning to s*** after signing a big contract.

[fatcowxlive]

I'm kind of glad that we aren't hearing rumors that they want to backload the contracts... I want financial security now and the next few years as well

[intentional wok]

Like I said, its a contract year. There has been a history of guys having crazy contract/walk seasons and then turning to s*** after signing a big contract.

 

Edwin's been steadily excellent for the last four years, though. If you look at the numbers for 2012-2015 you'd be forgiven for not realizing which stats belong to which year. He's very consistent. Not sure how much more he could improve even with "more effort".

[glory]

Yeah, I'd wait until the end of the season. Unless the NL getting the DH happens in 2017, the number of teams needing a DH and willing to spend that much for one will probably be limited. I could see him testing the market next winter and ultimately coming back to the Jays anyway, ala Alex Gordon with the Royals.

 

Regardless, I get the feeling Edwin really wants to come back. Maybe he'll work something out that is mutually beneficial.

[JuniorFelix]

4/100 and you got yourself a deal.

No way this FO does that. The only way EE gets close to 25/year is on a shorter term deal. Even then it seems high to me.

[BigCecil]

If you don't sign him now, and he puts up a monster season, we stand a very good chance of getting out-bidded.

 

OR he gets hurt or has an awful season and the price goes down. The only reason you take the risk off of him for 2016 and extend is if you get a reasonable discount for giving him that security. Edwin has been great for us and very consistent. I would not be suprised if this deal happened.

[Jonn]

This will get done. Edited March 3, 2016 by Jonn

[fireballW]

4/100 and you got yourself a deal.

 

I think it has been pointed out in lots of articles, but DHs just don't have that great of a market. Personally I think if they give him 4/85 he should sign. Over 20 mil a year for a DH would be a great for EE. Probably too high even on the Jays' part.

[ValiantJaysFan]

Would rather sign Edwin than Bautista at this point. Bautista is too much of a sideshow and wants way too much money. Sign Edwin, if Bautista walks then go out and sign a #1 pitcher using the money saved by not signing Bautista and by Dickey likely leaving or retiring or taking way less money...makes us a more well rounded team.

[Boxcar]

Like I said, its a contract year. There has been a history of guys having crazy contract/walk seasons and then turning to s*** after signing a big contract.

 

Nope

[RealAccountant]

Would rather sign Edwin than Bautista at this point. Bautista is too much of a sideshow and wants way too much money. Sign Edwin, if Bautista walks then go out and sign a #1 pitcher using the money saved by not signing Bautista and by Dickey likely leaving or retiring or taking way less money...makes us a more well rounded team.

 

Lol at sign no.1 pitcher

[The Cats Ass]

Would rather sign Edwin than Bautista at this point. Bautista is too much of a sideshow and wants way too much money. Sign Edwin, if Bautista walks then go out and sign a #1 pitcher using the money saved by not signing Bautista and by Dickey likely leaving or retiring or taking way less money...makes us a more well rounded team.

 

Thin is, starting pitching next year is really thin... The whole market is actually pretty thin.

 

For #1s there's really only Strasburg and maybe Shields(if he opts out). Some other pitchers are Kazmir(if he opts out), Clay Buchholz, Andrew Cashner.

[G-Snarls]

Yeah, I'd wait until the end of the season. Unless the NL getting the DH happens in 2017, the number of teams needing a DH is small

 

I suspect there are NL teams who would let him play 1B next year, especially if they know the DH spot.is coming

[ValiantJaysFan]

Lol at sign no.1 pitcher

 

Lol at Lol at sign no. 1 pitcher

[Sammy225]

Why sign a #1 when we already got StroShow.... Develop #1 pitcher

[Rusty_Savage]

If you sign you sign Edwin there will be no money to sign a #1, especially seeing as there is only one top end pitcher hitting free agency.

[ValiantJaysFan]

Why sign a #1 when we already got StroShow.... Develop #1 pitcher

 

I dunno, two are better than one.