Report: Jose Reyes arrested for domestic abuse

[leaffie]

If it was one woman, or a disgruntled fan or employee, then maybe. But there were 27 women who went on tv and told their stories. Much to their shame. Plus, I think his accusers number about 45 now.

[Dr Negative]

Cosby is a Jimmy Savile-esque serial predator.

[KingKat]

I don't know if he is guilty or not but it seems that no one is at all interested in very basic analysis of his side.

 

He was given the benefit of the doubt FOR YEARS. It's only recently that his credibility has reached the breaking point.

[fireballW]

I don't know if he is guilty or not but it seems that no one is at all interested in very basic analysis of his side.

 

Well I know what you are saying. All the reports I saw the women knowingly took qualudes. I'm sure there are lots of drugs (alcohol as you mentioned as a less severe example) that could have similar effects. The women are there, with a celebrity, alone and taking drugs.... ummm. Pretty sure though that by the law if someone is super drunk they cannot consent to sex? So it'd probably be the same thing. Legally and morally it definitely isn't good.

[Jimcanuck]

Cosby is a Jimmy Savile-esque serial predator.

 

Savile was a pedophile. Cosby allegedly raped teenagers, but I wouldn't lump him in with Savile.

 

Savile was much more disgusting human filth.

[JaysAllMighty]

Savile was a pedophile. Cosby allegedly raped teenagers, but I wouldn't lump him in with Savile.

 

Savile was much more disgusting human filth.

 

If Cosby would have done that to your wife you would certainly think he was a disgusting human filth.

 

I can't understand people defending these *******s. Shits for brains is the only logic I can come up with.

[King]

WTF is going on in this thread?

[JaysAllMighty]

WTF is going on in this thread?

 

Same as your avatar I guess.... LOL, Joke's over, get rid of it.

[Laika]

I can't believe that Boxcar is such a mens rights activist and Bill Cosby apologist.

 

Losing a lot of respect for my idol ITT

[Jimcanuck]

If Cosby would have done that to your wife you would certainly think he was a disgusting human filth.

 

I can't understand people defending these *******s. Shits for brains is the only logic I can come up with.

 

I'm not defending Cosby. He should spend the rest of his life in jail.

 

Both are disgusting filth, but Savile is much, much worse.

[JaysAllMighty]

I'm not defending Cosby. He should spend the rest of his life in jail.

 

Both are disgusting filth, but Savile is much, much worse.

 

Predators are all the same, they all deserve to hang to prevent further victims.

[leaffie]

Just to get this thread back on track, on sirius xm today, they were discussing Reyes possible penalty. First time that MLB will deal with this under their new policy. Kennedy seems to think there will be no tolerance and Reyes will get hit hard.

 

What would you think is a fair penalty, assuming he is found guilty.

[Jimcanuck]

Predators are all the same, they all deserve to hang to prevent further victims.

 

The prison general population is a good place for them. But sorry, don't agree with state sanctioned murder.

[Boxcar]

I can't believe that Boxcar is such a mens rights activist and Bill Cosby apologist.

 

Losing a lot of respect for my idol ITT

 

Lern2read

[Laika]

Just to get this thread back on track, on sirius xm today, they were discussing Reyes possible penalty. First time that MLB will deal with this under their new policy. Kennedy seems to think there will be no tolerance and Reyes will get hit hard.

 

What would you think is a fair penalty, assuming he is found guilty.

 

Here are the key points from the policy:

 

— MLB discipline is not dependent on a criminal conviction, however, the commissioner reserves the right to defer a decision on discipline until criminal cases are resolved.

— There are no maximum, or minimum, penalties.

— Disciplinary rulings can be appealed, and appeals will be heard by an independent arbitrator.

— The A-Rod provision: The current policy includes a provision that the player and union can be represented "only by in-house counsel of the players' association and/or by outside counsel appointed by the players' association." This comes after Alex Rodriguez elected to have outside counsel represent him when appealing his season-long ban.

— Three experts will chair a joint policy board tasked with developing a treatment plan. The confidential treatment could included mandatory counseling and psychological evaluations. Players who do not comply are open to additional discipline from the commissioner.

 

I don't think we'll see anything drastic (like a year suspension, if he's convicted). I think for a case of this nature the suspension length would (rationally or irrationally) be anchored to the prohibited substance (not PED) suspension length regime, which is like ~25 days for a first offense.

If Reyes is not convicted criminally then you might see no suspension, just a treatment plan agreement.

 

Certainly interesting.

[Jimcanuck]

Rockies are hoping for a long suspension, no doubt

[burlingtonbandit]

Wonder if the Rockies would just release him.

[leaffie]

Kennedy said that they had called every team trying to trade him even before this.

[Jimcanuck]

got to wonder if there are other issues

[Cookie]

I'd like to see mandatory therapy regardless of conviction, suspension of some sort and a fine paid in the form of a donation to a women's shelter or charity that supports victims of abuse. I also hope MLB would extend therapy and support to his wife.

[Jimcanuck]

I'd like to see mandatory therapy regardless of conviction, suspension of some sort and a fine paid in the form of a donation to a women's shelter or charity that supports victims of abuse. I also hope MLB would extend therapy and support to his wife.

 

why should MLB do that?

 

i hate the idea of employer as nanny state proxy

[Cookie]

MLB isn't a typical employer. If they can punish outside the court of law then they can help as well.

 

This is the first situation with their new protocol, why not set the bar high? Other major sports have handled abuse situations terribly. MLB can be better.

[burlingtonbandit]

MLB isn't a typical employer. If they can punish outside the court of law then they can help as well.

 

This is the first situation with their new protocol, why not set the bar high? Other major sports have handled abuse situations terribly. MLB can be better.

 

Manfred sounded like MLB will do this. Have to think Reyes gets suspended even without a conviction as well.

[TheHurl]

I don't think we'll see anything drastic (like a year suspension, if he's convicted). I think for a case of this nature the suspension length would (rationally or irrationally) be anchored to the prohibited substance (not PED) suspension length regime, which is like ~25 days for a first offense.

If Reyes is not convicted criminally then you might see no suspension, just a treatment plan agreement.

 

Certainly interesting.

 

As we've seen recently in other sports...video or photos going public can certainly sway the way it's treated. I went to the PrimeTime Sport Management seminar Monday and listened to Clark Griffith (son of the former Twins owner) talk about how teams should be able to suspend before a hearing, but then followed up with how they have to still follow legal process, and how that is tough to do.

 

Also found it funny to hear Griffiths talk about these criminal acts and then find out he's recently been charged with indecent exposure.

[Stangstag]

As we've seen recently in other sports...video or photos going public can certainly sway the way it's treated. I went to the PrimeTime Sport Management seminar Monday and listened to Clark Griffith (son of the former Twins owner) talk about how teams should be able to suspend before a hearing, but then followed up with how they have to still follow legal process, and how that is tough to do.

 

Also found it funny to hear Griffiths talk about these criminal acts and then find out he's recently been charged with indecent exposure.

 

Indecent exposure could mean anything.

[burlingtonbandit]

As we've seen recently in other sports...video or photos going public can certainly sway the way it's treated. I went to the PrimeTime Sport Management seminar Monday and listened to Clark Griffith (son of the former Twins owner) talk about how teams should be able to suspend before a hearing, but then followed up with how they have to still follow legal process, and how that is tough to do.

 

Also found it funny to hear Griffiths talk about these criminal acts and then find out he's recently been charged with indecent exposure.

 

best option seems to be suspend with pay. I would still do it on a case by case basis but unless it seems like a total fabrication suspending with pay seems to the safest bet until the legal process plays out.

[Grant77]

As we've seen recently in other sports...video or photos going public can certainly sway the way it's treated. I went to the PrimeTime Sport Management seminar Monday and listened to Clark Griffith (son of the former Twins owner) talk about how teams should be able to suspend before a hearing, but then followed up with how they have to still follow legal process, and how that is tough to do.

 

Also found it funny to hear Griffiths talk about these criminal acts and then find out he's recently been charged with indecent exposure.

 

For those who recognize the name, Clark Griffith was also the name of his uncle, a Hall of Fame pitcher with the Cubs and White Sox. His referenced father, Calvin Griffith, was a Canadian native that moved the Washington franchise to Minnesota. I always found it funny that they got a Canadian team back after such showing such disdain for Griffith.

[o2cui2i]

His own wife says she knew about it most of the time and that she doesn't think he raped anyone. He might have actually done it but it's not like it will matter now since he's been declared guilty by everyone already.

 

there's an old interview where Cosby admits getting prescription drugs for purpose of helping sex partner (not wife) to"relax." whether she was just too excited about banging someone famous or he was using it as date rape drug no one knows, but it really didn't sound good.

[o2cui2i]

Qualuudes are not exactly Roofies, and he offered it to them, they accepted. That is pretty slippery footing there.

 

I recall one of my SJW friends posted this story on Facebook and myself and another guy kind of questioned things. We were immediately labelled rape apologists/enablers.

 

There have been plenty of examples of rape hoax, too. If you don't know, look up Emma Sulkowicz who was basically allowed to destroy the life of a guy who was deemed innocent over and over.

 

I just think we are getting away from questioning certain things in society and that is a scary place to go.

 

add the university lacrosse team that got accused, had their team banned and then oh, she lied, it never happened. Then their was a frat that was accused last year and the Fraternity was closed only to have it come out that the girl had never been to the Frat house where she claimed it happened.

 

 

I'M not saying there aren't s***** ******* that do horrible things to women/girls/little kids and they should be punished from here to eternity, but at least wait for the trial before the tar and feathers are purchased.

 

Rice should have gone to jail for assault on this wife but he's back playing again.

 

should wait to see what Reyes actually did before we judge him.

[o2cui2i]

WTF are you talking about. He mixed sedatives into their drinks without asking.

 

that is not what has been proven. it could be what happened. he has only admitted to getting them to help them relax..... I guess passed out is a form of relaxed, but we still DON'T know, but it does look bad when it's a "he said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said" kind of thing.....