art_vandelay275 Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 That isn't Shapiro's style, so i don't know where people are getting this from. Antonetti had quite a bit freedom in Cleveland under Shapiro, he's not a micromanager but like any other President he will have veto power and also the authority to dictate the general direction that the franchise should be going in. it wasn't; when they did the jimenez deal, shapiro said something to the effect that he wouldn't have done it as a gm but he ok'ed it to support antonetti or that he trusts him but then griffin/star reported that supposedly he told some "national media outlet" that he misses the hands-on personnel moves and that's why he took this job; griff reported it before AA made it official...
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Either promoting Tinnish or bringing someone over from the Indians makes the most sense. I'd be surprised if it isnt the later though
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 i agree. they may get one that will have _better_ results, then there's no way he'll show more passion for the job; for AA being where he came from and who he is, it's not an exaggeration to say for him it was a labor of love Ya. Watching him celebrate our wins full on swearing his head off and jumping up and down endeared me to him. That may sound silly but that was the un-politician part of him unbridled. Having said that this is a business and he chose to walk. I don't blame him for it and he will do well. I have faith in Shapiro's approach taking the bull by the horns and its on him succeed or fail.
Laika Community Moderator Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Grant77 would make a pretty good GM
McDude Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 if shapiro can poach tito and mickey callaway from cleveland then im sold.
Rusty_Savage Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Grant77 would make a pretty good GM I like o2's chances. He makes such a stellar mod that it seems like it should come natural.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 When Grant calls other organizations to inquire about trading for certain players or prospects, this is what every GM will do... http://i.imgur.com/qSzngMn.gif
Candide Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 where is gord ash? why hasn't he been considered. real disrespectful
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Grant77 would make a pretty good GM He would not get ripped off by NL gms trying to trade their over-rated pitching because he knows the secret formula that translates NL era to the American league. He also would hire Cito Gaston and Dwayne Murphy back and we would hit a lot of homers and almost homers that hook foul.
Candide Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 If Kapler doesn't get the field manager position with the Dodgers (although I think he will) he'd be an interesting candidate. Smart, Jewish, blocked in the Dodgers F.O. rosie dimanno wouldn't be able to contain herself. i still remember that front page article she wrote about him (non-baseball related), where she gushed over him for 1,000 words on non-baseball related s*** while his shirtless body graced the cover the toronto star. that was extremely weird. give me gord ash instead
BTS Community Moderator Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Gabe Kapler is vying for the LA field manager position and would also be on the radar for our GM spot? Talk about hands in many pies.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I think you need a great negotiator as GM and I'm not sure Lacava or Tinnish fit the profile. That one of AA's strengths which will surely be missed.
mitchf Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I think you need a great negotiator as GM and I'm not sure Lacava or Tinnish fit the profile. That one of AA's strengths which will surely be missed. AA's negotiating and ability to connect with other GM's is his best trait without a doubt.
art_vandelay275 Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 If Kapler doesn't get the field manager position with the Dodgers (although I think he will) he'd be an interesting candidate. Smart, Jewish, blocked in the Dodgers F.O. ...??
FireAlexAnthopoulos Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 AA's negotiating and ability to connect with other GM's is his best trait without a doubt. It's easy to connect with other GMs when you're always willing to bend over and trade your whole team for their trash.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 AA's negotiating and ability to connect with other GM's is his best trait without a doubt. It's easy to connect with other GMs when you're always willing to bend over and trade your whole team for their trash. I wonder if that is what Beane is saying after the JD trade (and there were other good moves that have been mentioned endlessly). AA was far from perfect but I think your comment is an overstatement.
FireAlexAnthopoulos Verified Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I wonder if that is what Beane is saying after the JD trade (and there were other good moves that have been mentioned endlessly). AA was far from perfect but I think your comment is an overstatement. I'll give AA props for the Wells trade and the JD trade. But let's be real: the Napoli, Marlins and Mets trades were abysmal. In the wake of Price's playoff meltdown and his probable exit in free agency, that trade isn't looking so hot either. More often than not, AA was the sucker that allowed the rest of the league to swindle him out of all our prospects.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 The gustapo renamed my thread smh
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I'll give AA props for the Wells trade and the JD trade. But let's be real: the Napoli, Marlins and Mets trades were abysmal. In the wake of Price's playoff meltdown and his probable exit in free agency, that trade isn't looking so hot either. More often than not, AA was the sucker that allowed the rest of the league to swindle him out of all our prospects. That trade helped get them to the f***in playoffs lol.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 The gustapo renamed my thread smh Somewhat hilariously I might add. I'm guessing it was Hurl. Then again, I always guess Hurl and I'm usually wrong.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I'll give AA props for the Wells trade and the JD trade. But let's be real: the Napoli, Marlins and Mets trades were abysmal. In the wake of Price's playoff meltdown and his probable exit in free agency, that trade isn't looking so hot either. More often than not, AA was the sucker that allowed the rest of the league to swindle him out of all our prospects. I don't totally disagree but its not that cut and dry. Hindsight is 20/20. I remember some saw the MIA deal as so lopsided for the Jays MLB might not allow it at the time. It didn't work out well for reasons we all know. Some would argue he built up farm assets to use to acquire talent that contributed now and in 2016 that put us within a couple games of the WS this yr. IF KC wasn't on an unbelievable hot streak we would still be playing. It was a calculated gamble. I remember you posted when we were rolling after the break in 1st saying you thought you were wrong about AA and his moves were solid. I need to dig that out.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 That trade helped get them to the f***in playoffs lol. And more importantly created a huge fan movement that was felt in their ticket/merch revenue and tv ratings, and will, likely, spill into 2016. That impact, not only, justifies the trade, but also re-signing Price.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 And more importantly created a huge fan movement that was felt in their ticket/merch revenue and tv ratings, and will, likely, spill into 2016. That impact, not only, justifies the trade, but also re-signing Price. Agree with that bud....except we wont be signing Price. Too many older expensive players on this team and 2017 looming large.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Agree with that bud....except we wont be signing Price. Too many older expensive players on this team and 2017 looming large. I see and agree with that perspective, but the it could be argued that the increase in revenue could justify a top 5 payroll, and, thus, justify re-signing Price. That said, I would probably go after Zimmerman and Kazmir instead.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 And more importantly created a huge fan movement that was felt in their ticket/merch revenue and tv ratings, and will, likely, spill into 2016. That impact, not only, justifies the trade, but also re-signing Price. Doesn't justify re-signing him.
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