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Laika Cooperstown

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Kind of annoying to see people praising AA for the "ninja" moves in grabbing Price and Tulo. He only had to give up most of the farm's top end, what a ninja master.

 

Well the Tulo deal was pretty good in context.

 

Can we have Norris and Boyd back, though?

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Kind of annoying to see people praising AA for the "ninja" moves in grabbing Price and Tulo. He only had to give up most of the farm's top end, what a ninja master.

 

i always thought the "ninja" more refers to the fact that he doesn't let things leak out and has less to do with the quality of trade itself...

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i always thought the "ninja" more refers to the fact that he doesn't let things leak out and has less to do with the quality of trade itself...

 

Yes, that's where it originated, he keeps stuff close to the chest, for the most part.

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You were very upset with me for saying the Tulo trade might not be a heist.

 

I was upset with you for saying Tulo is 2 months away from being an albatross.

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C'mon Boxy, it isn't all doom and gloom on his resume, I know the same as you in deets of his past, but a guy can change, he's done a decent job. He rebuilt that farm quickly and moved guys for great assets to win a WS, he came pretty close.

 

Yeah but if he can't accommodate what Shapiro wants to do here then I'd rather he leave. You don't bring in a guy like Mark Shapiro to keep making fun of Fangraphs and waste money on tons of major league scouts.

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Well the Tulo deal was pretty good in context.

 

Can we have Norris and Boyd back, though?

 

It was good but not total bumrape like Donaldson.

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Yeah but if he can't accommodate what Shapiro wants to do here then I'd rather he leave. You don't bring in a guy like Mark Shapiro to keep making fun of Fangraphs and waste money on tons of major league scouts.

 

Patience bro, patience.

Laika Cooperstown

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Yeah but if he can't accommodate what Shapiro wants to do here then I'd rather he leave. You don't bring in a guy like Mark Shapiro to keep making fun of Fangraphs and waste money on tons of major league scouts.

 

Wow, could you be any more stupider? You realize that major league scouts just single-handedly won the ALCS for Kansas City, right? jesus duck

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Wow, could you be any more stupider? You realize that major league scouts just single-handedly won the ALCS for Kansas City, right? jesus duck

 

Is that rhetorical?

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Wow, could you be any more stupider? You realize that major league scouts just single-handedly won the ALCS for Kansas City, right? jesus duck

 

lol... Major League Scouts = Tape/Video. :P

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Wow, could you be any more stupider? You realize that major league scouts just single-handedly won the ALCS for Kansas City, right? jesus duck

 

Hugh??? You mean because they sent Cain??? There were no outs. It was a tie game. K.C. Would probably have scored him anyway. If not it was still tied. If they don't win game 6 they still have game 7. That's ********.

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Hugh??? You mean because they sent Cain??? There were no outs. It was a tie game. K.C. Would probably have scored him anyway. If not it was still tied. If they don't win game 6 they still have game 7. That's ********.

 

Wat?

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Hugh??? You mean because they sent Cain??? There were no outs. It was a tie game. K.C. Would probably have scored him anyway. If not it was still tied. If they don't win game 6 they still have game 7. That's ********.

 

He's referring to them absolutely picking Price apart in his tendencies.

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He's referring to them absolutely picking Price apart in his tendencies.

 

He's actually being 100% sarcastic.

Olerud363 FCL Blue Jays

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I don't think they hit price that hard. The homers in game 6 were barely over the fence.., if at all in one case. The 7th in game 2 gad 2 bloopers... The obvious one and the Hosmer hit. If Goins makes a catch he should of and the dumb fan doesn't make one he shouldn't of... Price is likely 2-0 and we are watching a game in 30 minutes.
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AA deserves credit for the Donaldson deal, but signing Martin involved paying him more than any other team was willing to and the Tulo/Price trades involved trading his two top pitching prospects + other pieces. The Dickey/Marlins trades were incredibly short-sighted/terrible, and despite his scouting team being able to identify talent in the draft, there doesn't appear to be any sort of structure in terms of how prospects are developed. On one hand you have Stroman getting AAA time, and on the other you have Sanchez reaching the Majors despite not pitching well at any level + Osuna/Castro jumping straight from A-ball to the Majors to fill bullpen spots, to Pompey jumping 3 levels in a year and getting 3 weeks under his belt to start 2015 before he's deemed unready, etc, etc, etc.

 

The Jays can definitely do better than AA, especially with Shapiro on board.

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AA deserves credit for the Donaldson deal, but signing Martin involved paying him more than any other team was willing to and the Tulo/Price trades involved trading his two top pitching prospects + other pieces. The Dickey/Marlins trades were incredibly short-sighted/terrible, and despite his scouting team being able to identify talent in the draft, there doesn't appear to be any sort of structure in terms of how prospects are developed. On one hand you have Stroman getting AAA time, and on the other you have Sanchez reaching the Majors despite not pitching well at any level + Osuna/Castro jumping straight from A-ball to the Majors to fill bullpen spots, to Pompey jumping 3 levels in a year and getting 3 weeks under his belt to start 2015 before he's deemed unready, etc, etc, etc.

 

The Jays can definitely do better than AA, especially with Shapiro on board.

 

Not sure about this

 

Think he got offered more guaranteed cash from someone else

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