Offseason Roster Thread

[Grant77]

Apparently we signed Luis Hurtado to a MiLB contract on November 11th. Can someone tell me who the f*** Luis Hurtado is?

 

Backup C for our Las Vegas AAA team and....retired? Now he's back I guess, but he was never any good.

[KingKat]

Apparently we signed Luis Hurtado to a MiLB contract on November 11th. Can someone tell me who the f*** Luis Hurtado is?

 

Someone who was in the system from 2006 to 2012 and had a 541 OPS across all levels. Maybe the like something about his receiving skills or perhaps more likely they expected to need someone to fill a backup catcher role in one of the leagues and his name came up.

[BTS]

Yeah, weird that he fell off the map after 2012. Also funny that the team's transaction page has updated the Chavez trade but has nothing about the apparent Humberto Quintero signing.

[Jimcanuck]

Someone who was in the system from 2006 to 2012 and had a 541 OPS across all levels. Maybe the like something about his receiving skills or perhaps more likely they expected to need someone to fill a backup catcher role in one of the leagues and his name came up.

 

$50K signing

[KingKat]

Yeah, weird that he fell off the map after 2012. Also funny that the team's transaction page has updated the Chavez trade but has nothing about the apparent Humberto Quintero signing.

 

Quintero isn't too exciting either. Can't hit. Old as f***.

[closetjaysfan]

league min

 

That is what i assumed initially but i started thinking it might be more for a premium position.

 

My next next question is whether the 9 million/war that Shapiro uses is for SP FA is accounts for the replacement cost of filling the roster spot?

[Grant77]

That is what i assumed initially but i started thinking it might be more for a premium position.

 

My next next question is whether the 9 million/war that Shapiro uses is for SP FA is accounts for the replacement cost of filling the roster spot?

 

I would think so, yes. I'm not sure that there is much of a practical use for that number, however.

[Angrioter]

Apparently we signed Luis Hurtado to a MiLB contract on November 11th. Can someone tell me who the f*** Luis Hurtado is?

 

A Mexican bullpen catcher

[closetjaysfan]

I would think so, yes. I'm not sure that there is much of a practical use for that number, however.

 

So lets say you need to fill 2 roster spots and hope to get 2 WAR worth of pitching (keeping #s small to keep the example simple). You can sign a 2 WAR FA at 18 million and fill the other spot with a replacement level at $500k. Or you sign two 1 WAR FA at 9 million each. Save $500,000?

[Angrioter]

Bob Nightengale

The #Dodgers, in their quest for marquee starting pitching, have identified free agent Jordan Zimmermann as one of their top targets.

 

Great news for the Jays fans. Zimm is a time bomb

[Grant77]

So lets say you need to fill 2 roster spots and hope to get 2 WAR worth of pitching (keeping #s small to keep the example simple). You can sign a 2 WAR FA at 18 million and fill the other spot with a replacement level at $500k. Or you sign two 1 WAR FA at 9 million each. Save $500,000?

 

Theoretically true, yes. I'm not sure how often that type of decision presents itself.

[dineke]

Bob Nightengale

The #Dodgers, in their quest for marquee starting pitching, have identified free agent Jordan Zimmermann as one of their top targets.

 

Great news for the Jays fans. Zimm is a time bomb

 

Friedman interested? Guy is going to be an ace for the next 7 years.

[closetjaysfan]

Theoretically true, yes. I'm not sure how often that type of decision presents itself.

 

I guess it just adds to my budding opinion that if you have 2 roster spots to fill, signing a (2x)war pitcher is less valuable than 2 (x)war pitchers. Risk of injury being the foremost consideration.

[King]

I could see a rebuilding team like the Phillies taking him.

 

meh. I'm not sold he's more than a replacement level player in 2016.

[King]

Apparently we signed Luis Hurtado to a MiLB contract on November 11th. Can someone tell me who the f*** Luis Hurtado is?

 

He's a coach for our Gulf Coast/Dominican Summer league teams.

[BTS]

He's a coach for our Gulf Coast/Dominican Summer league teams.

 

Wat. Is he actually going to play next year?

[King]

Wat. Is he actually going to play next year?

 

No, he's a coach. He had the same role in 2015, he was placed on the disabled list for the New Hampshire Fisher Cats (AA) for the season.

[BTS]

No, he's a coach. He had the same role in 2015, he was placed on the disabled list for the New Hampshire Fisher Cats (AA) for the season.

 

I don't get it. Why is he being treated differently than other coaches?

[King]

Not sure. I'll ask around.

[burlingtonbandit]

I don't get it. Why is he being treated differently than other coaches?

 

Maybe the pay is better?

[King]

If he's signed to a minor league contract getting payed like a minor league player I would have to think it's worse..

[burlingtonbandit]

So apparently on PTS today one of the idiots actually said a team source told them the plan was to have Goins start at SS in 2017 and shift Tulo to 1B. I don't believe it for a second but find it hilarious why someone would even think of this.

[Spanky99]

So apparently on PTS today one of the idiots actually said a team source told them the plan was to have Goins start at SS in 2017 and shift Tulo to 1B. I don't believe it for a second but find it hilarious why someone would even think of this.

 

lol

[BTS]

So apparently on PTS today one of the idiots actually said a team source told them the plan was to have Goins start at SS in 2017 and shift Tulo to 1B. I don't believe it for a second but find it hilarious why someone would even think of this.

 

lol wat

[King]

So apparently on PTS today one of the idiots actually said a team source told them the plan was to have Goins start at SS in 2017 and shift Tulo to 1B. I don't believe it for a second but find it hilarious why someone would even think of this.

 

lol

[Nafro]

So apparently on PTS today one of the idiots actually said a team source told them the plan was to have Goins start at SS in 2017 and shift Tulo to 1B. I don't believe it for a second but find it hilarious why someone would even think of this.

 

Makes complete sense, move him from a position where his defense and offense make him above average. Than move him to a much less premium position while paying him 20 million.

 

Apparently whoever stated this has not heard of Rowdy Tellez. What part of "Ryan Goins is more John MacDonald than Troy Tulowitzki", do people not understand?

[BTS]

Well it kind of does make sense because we have a giant hole at 1B whereas Goins can slide into Tulo's spot at SS and Pendleton can fill Travis' spot at 2B quite nicely.

 

It's easy to forget about Pendleton. He really does change the entire dynamic of the team.

[burlingtonbandit]

Wow. Actually listened to it live and its worse than I thought. Not only did the guy say he heard Tulo would move to 1st base but then Jeff Blair said "I'm not sure Tulo has enough power to play 1st Base".

 

5 Min earlier Michael Grange said he wouldn't sign Donaldson to 6/130 either lmao.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/prime-time-sports/

 

Around the 30 min mark of the 5PM hour.

[Orgfiller]

I'm pretty sure this idea came from Jerry Howarth during one of the games, I was listening to the radio at the time.

[Atothe]

A lot of dumb folks on sportnet. Guys I use to follow on a daily basis 7-10 years ago. Thank god my love for baseball allowed me to progress.