Laika Community Moderator Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Sometime insane must have happened in Buffalo this year. Everybody was ass, but some of them should have been alright. Like this guy.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 It's looking like Bowden Francis might actually reach his ceiling as a back end starter. It's nice bringing up arms like Manoah and having them perform as #1s. But it's also good sometimes to have guys that can fill out the #4/5 spots that are homegrown. It helps with the sustainability model. If we can get to a place where there's a steady stream coming up through, it allows us to trade them off 1 or 2 years before free agency when their arb totals are starting to get higher.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 It's looking like Bowden Francis might actually reach his ceiling as a back end starter. It's nice bringing up arms like Manoah and having them perform as #1s. But it's also good sometimes to have guys that can fill out the #4/5 spots that are homegrown. It helps with the sustainability model. If we can get to a place where there's a steady stream coming up through, it allows us to trade them off 1 or 2 years before free agency when their arb totals are starting to get higher. Yeah that has literally been the problem the last two years. These #7, #8, #9 SP on the depth chart like Hatch etc. come up for spot starts and they have just been USELESS - below replacement level shitballers. Toronto's pitching situation would feel so much better if those #7, #8, #9 SP had a modicum of promise and cromulent swing-man floors.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 This is why Stripling is so f'ing valuable as a swingman. Can handle medium, even high leverage out of the bullpen. Need a spot start, here's Stripling to give you 5 innings of average or better SP.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Baseball America's first Mock... 2023 MLB Mock Draft: Full First Round With Draft Lottery Complete & Draft Order Set By Carlos Collazo on December 6, 2022 The results of the inaugural MLB Draft Lottery are in. The Pirates will receive the first overall pick in the 2023 draft. The rest of the lottery picks were assigned as follows: Nationals Tigers Rangers Twins A’s The other 12 non-postseason teams were placed in reverse-order of regular season record in 2022, while the postseason teams were sorted in a similar manner (though playoff finish and revenue sharing are also factors). For more on how the new draft lottery works, check here. With the first round draft order now set, here’s our first attempt at a full first round mock draft. You can view our 2023 top 100 draft list, with scouting reports on every player, here. 1. Pirates — Dylan Crews, OF, Louisiana State The No. 1 player on the 2023 draft board, Crews has already put up gaudy offensive numbers in his first two seasons with Louisiana State. He’s already a highly-decorated player with the Tigers who homered 18 times as a freshman, then popped 22 more in his sophomore campaign in 2022. Surrounded by an enviable lineup of talent in Baton Rouge, MLB teams will likely be salivating over the numbers he’ll put up in 2023. Crews ranked as the No. 54 prospect in the 2020 class in high school before he pulled out of the draft. He was a heralded underclass hitting prospect when he entered the 2020 draft cycle, but didn’t hit to his expectations during the 2019 showcase circuit and fell outside of first round range because of it. We wrote of Crews at the time: “It wouldn’t be at all surprising to see Crews make it to campus, get back to his typical self with the bat and become a first-round pick in three years.” The decision has paid off for the 6-foot slugger, who is a virtual lock to go in the first round and one of the favorites to be the No. 1 overall pick. 2. Nationals — Chase Dollander, RHP, Tennessee If Dollander pitched this summer, there’s a reasonable chance he could be in the No. 1 spot on the 2023 draft board. Clubs can get a bit antsy when they haven’t seen a player for a while, and Dollander last pitched on June 11 against Notre Dame. Still, he’s securely with Crews in the top phylum of talent for the 2023 class and is the best college pitching prospect since perhaps Florida aces Alex Faedo (2017) and AJ Puk (2016)—without the injury or off-the-field questions those players had, respectively. It’s plus stuff across the board with preternatural fastball command that separates him from most amateur pitchers with similar power arsenals. “People have brought up (Jacob) deGrom comps,” said one scout on Dollander. 3. Tigers — Wyatt Langford, OF, Florida Langford was the most prominent fall riser in the 2023 draft class after turning in improved run times that make a center field profile look more likely. If that’s the case, his bat goes from profiling well to profiling exceptionally. In 2022 Langford hit .356/.447/.719 with 26 home runs (which tied a Florida program record). He led the Gators in all three triple slash categories, home runs, hits, runs, triples and total bases. His 26 homers were best among all SEC hitters and tied for sixth among all Division I hitters, along with Tennessee Tech’s Jason Hinchman and Georgia Tech’s Kevin Parada. 4. Rangers — Jacob Wilson, SS, Grand Canyon Wilson has uncanny contact ability and in 2022 led Division I hitters in NCAA’s ‘toughest to strikeout’ category, which looks at at-bats per strikeout (35.1). Wilson struck out just seven times in 246 at-bats, while slashing .358/.418/.585 with 12 home runs and 18 doubles. Yes, it’s in the Western Athletic Conference, which will be scrutinized, but Wilson was also one of the most impressive position players with Team USA over the summer. While it’s an admittedly poor comparison, Wilson’s contact rate stands out when put side-by-side with Chase DeLauter—a 2022 first-rounder who also came from a smaller conference and had impressive contact/zone skills. Per Synergy, Wilson has swung and missed just 9% of the time in a 96-game sample with GCU, while DeLauter swung and missed 16% of the time in a 62-game sample. 5. Twins — Jacob Gonzalez, SS, Mississippi Back in high school, Gonzalez was a talented quarterback on top of being a projectable lefthanded hitter and shortstop. Scouts were spot on in their evaluations of Gonzalez at the time: “He has a loose, easy lefthanded swing, stays on plane and drives balls hard on a line. He has room to gain strength and add power, altogether projecting as a potential impact hitter once he reaches physical maturity. Gonzalez is a slow mover despite his athletic background and will have to move off shortstop, likely to third base.” Those comments largely reflect the player Gonzalez remains today. In two seasons in the SEC, Gonzalez has homered 30 times, while slashing .316/.424/.560. Some scouts think he will still move off shortstop, though he looked fine at the position this summer with Team USA. Gonzalez has a stoic demeanor on the field and is the highest ranked shortstop in a college class that’s quite strong at the position. 6. A’s — Max Clark, OF, Franklin (Ind.) Community HS Clark entered the summer as the top player on the 2023 draft board, and now checks in at No. 4, still as the top high school player in the class. He’s a well-rounded, lefthanded-hitting outfielder who draws comparisons to former all-star center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury. In fact, Ellsbury’s college draft scouting report from 2005 reads similar to Clark’s today, though the Indiana product is likely more advanced at the same stage than Ellsbury was. He was consistent during the showcase circuit last summer and has few holes in his tool set outside of wondering what sort of home run impact he’ll eventually get to. 7. Reds — Rhett Lowder, RHP, Wake Forest Lowder was the 2022 ACC Pitcher of the Year and is the latest product of the vaunted Wake Forest pitching lab. After posting a 6.12 ERA over 67.2 innings in his 2021 freshman season, Lowder took a big step forward in 2022 and posted a 2.37 ERA over 99.1 innings, while upping his fastball velocity about a tick and a half and continuing to throw strikes at a high rate. Lowder has plenty of confidence in his secondaries—a mid-80s changeup and low-80s slider—and was one of the top starters for Team USA this summer, where he ranked as the No. 4 prospect on the team. 8. Royals — Walker Jenkins, OF, South Brunswick HS, Southport, N.C. Jenkins made his mark on the national scouting scene early, after making USA Baseball’s 18U National Team as an underclassman in 2021. It’s good that he did, because a hamate injury limited his playing time during the 2022 showcase circuit. While he wasn’t seen as often, Jenkins checks plenty of boxes evaluators look for in an outfielder. He has size at 6-foot-3, 210 pounds, he’s got easy plus raw power and shows it regularly in batting practice. He has bat speed and the ability to drive the ball to all fields with impact and he’s a strong runner with a chance to be an above-average defender in the outfield with plus arm strength. Some scouts liken him to current Tigers outfielder and 2013 No. 9 overall pick Austin Meadows. 9. Rockies — Enrique Bradfield, OF, Vanderbilt Bradfield has been every bit the player he was expected to be after two seasons for Vanderbilt. A product of the same American Heritage High team in Plantation, Fla. that has produced first-rounders Brandon Barriera, Triston Casas and Eric Hosmer, Bradfield has been a speed demon and outstanding center fielder. He ranked first among Division I players with 47 stolen bases in 2021 and finished second behind Texas Southern’s Johnathon Thomas (62) in 2022 with 46. Those bags come with excellent efficiency as well (93.9% success rate) and emphasize Bradfield’s top-of-the-line speed. Bradfield is bound to draw comparisons to former Marlins speedster Juan Pierre and has a throwback, old school game with tons of contact at the plate but limited power—though his jump from one home run as a freshman to eight as a sophomore could be a sign of more coming. The new pitch clock and pickoff rules in the major leagues should increase his value, since base stealing will likely become easier. 10. Marlins — Paul Skenes, RHP/DH, Louisiana State Skenes was a breakout two-way sensation in 2021 when he hit over .400 with 21 doubles and 11 home runs for Air Force and also posted a 2.70 ERA out of the bullpen with 30 strikeouts in 26.2 innings of work. He’s clearly the top two-way prospect in the 2023 class and this fall with Louisiana State, scouts have gushed about the power he has shown on the mound and as a hulking righthanded slugger. He’s the best two-way prospect to come out of college since Brendan McKay in 2017, though McKay was viewed as a legitimate top-10 talent as both a hitter and pitcher, while scouts seem to prefer Skenes’ upside more on the mound. He’ll have a chance to continue proving his bat in the SEC in 2023, however, with plenty of talented hitters around him. 11. Angels — Noble Meyer, RHP, Jesuit HS, Portland, Ore. Meyer ascended to the top prep pitching prospect in the class this summer, thanks to a combination of size (6-foot-5, 195 pounds), stuff (a fastball that touches upper 90s and a slider that flashes 70-grade potential) and command. 12. D-backs — Brayden Taylor, 3B, Texas Christian Taylor stands out for his keen eye at the plate. Over 117 games with Texas Christian he’s walked 104 times (19 BB%) compared to 86 strikeouts (15.8 K%). With a 2,305-pitch sample with Synergy, Taylor has chased outside of the zone just 13% of the time—an exceptional rate. For context on that number, take a look at two savvy-eyed 2022 first-rounders: Jace Jung had a career 19% chase rate with Texas Tech and Jacob Berry had a 21% chase rate with Arizona and Louisiana State. 13. Cubs — Matt Shaw, SS, Maryland Shaw significantly improved his draft profile in 2022 by hitting for more power, sliding to shortstop full time and then ranking as the top prospect in the Cape Cod League. That made him one of our biggest risers after the 2022 summer circuit concluded. 14. Red Sox — Aidan Miller, 3B, Mitchell HS, New Port Richey, Fla. Miller has a lengthy track record of production as an amateur with Team USA. He played for the 12U National Team, won a gold medal with the 15U Team in 2019 and again won gold with the 18U Team in the 2022 World Cup—where he also placed on the All-World Team. Miller has excellent bat speed and projects to play third base or a corner outfield position at the next level. 15. White Sox — Hurston Waldrep, RHP, Florida Waldrep struck out 140 batters (eighth among Division I pitchers) in his first year as a full-time starter with Southern Mississippi in 2022. He has incredible natural arm talent and arm speed, with a mid-90s fastball that routinely gets into the upper 90s and a hard slider that flashes plus and generated a 54% whiff rate during the spring. If he shows similar stuff and performance in the SEC after transferring to Florida he could be one of the first college arms selected. 16. Giants — Kevin McGonigle, SS, Monsignor Bonner HS, Drexel Hill, Penn. McGonigle has a solid case as the best pure hitter in the 2023 prep class. He is in the same mold of profile as Mariners 2022 first-rounder Cole Young as a shorter (5-foot-11, 185 pounds) middle infielder who might be better at second base, but has an excellent feel for hitting and well-rounded game overall. He’s an aggressive hitter who has been a barrel machine against some of the better arms in the high school class, with the bat speed to turn around velocity and the pitch recognition to stay on quality secondary offerings. 17. Orioles — Thomas White, LHP, Phillips Academy, Andover, Mass. White has been famous for years thanks to his impressive size and velocity from the left side. He’s now listed at 6-foot-5, 210 pounds and this summer got his fastball into the upper 90s with an extremely easy and fluid arm action. He’s thrown both a slider and a curveball, though his changeup might be his most consistent secondary offering now. This is exactly how premium lefthanded pitching prospects look. 18. Brewers — Maui Ahuna, SS, Tennessee Ahuna was four points shy of a .400 batting line in 2022 with Kansas. His .396 mark was good for the 15th-best average among Division I hitters, and following the season he transferred to Tennessee and also played with USA Baseball’s Collegiate National Team. Ahuna won’t need to hit .400 in the SEC to prove his offensive chops, but if he does, the sweet-swinging lefthanded shortstop probably won’t make it to this pick. 19. Rays — Yohandy Morales, 3B, Miami Morales has long had an impressive tool set coupled with advanced physicality that came on during his high school career. He was 6-foot-4, 195 pounds as a senior with Braddock High in Miami in 2020 and almost three years later is listed at 6-foot-4, 209 pounds. Morales will swing-and-miss and expand the zone against secondaries, but there’s plenty of thunder in his righthanded bat (29 homers over two seasons) and he plays a slick third base as well. His father, Andy, played for the Cuban National Team and in the Yankees and Red Sox organizations. 20. Blue Jays — Travis Sykora, RHP, Round Rock (Texas) HS It’s been a few years since we’ve had a traditional, power-armed prep Texas righthander of Sykora’s caliber. You have to go back to Grayson Rodriguez in 2018 to get the most recent first-round pick of that profile—though Cole Phillips in 2022 was trending in that direction before he got injured and Jared Kelley in 2020 got paid like a first-rounder ($3 million) after being taken in the second. Sykora fits the stereotype. He’s huge (6-foot-6, 220 pounds), he throws hard (up to 101 mph) and he’s committed to Texas. If he didn’t have a triple-digit right arm he would be a solid hitting prospect in his own right. 21. Cardinals — Blake Mitchell, C/RHP, Sinton (Texas) HS Mitchell is one of the top two-way players among the prep ranks, as a strong, muscular catcher who brings lefthanded power to the table offensively, and a low-to-mid-90s fastball on the mound. He’s more advanced as a hitter and catcher now, and there are even fewer examples of catcher/pitcher two-way players at the next level than two-way players of any other combination, but Mitchell has real pro potential on both sides. 22. Mets — Tommy Troy, 2B, Stanford Troy was solid during 2021 with Stanford and in the Cape Cod League, but he took things to another level in 2022. The middle infielder logged his most significant time at shortstop since getting to college with Cotuit, and while he isn’t the most imposing hitter, he has twitch, bat speed and a compact swing that does plenty of damage against fastballs. Troy hit .339/.371/.568 with seven home runs in 55 games with Stanford and slashed .310/.386/.531 with five home runs in 30 games with Cotuit. 23. Mariners — Cade Kuehler, RHP, Campbell Kuehler pitched on Saturdays behind Pirates supplemental first-rounder Thomas Harrington for Campbell during the 2022 season. He should move into the Friday night role in 2023. Keuhler has a legitimate five-pitch mix with a fastball, slider, split-change, cutter and curveball—though his mid-90s fastball and sharp slider are likely his best pitches now. Campbell had two players drafted in the top 100 picks in the first 54 years of the MLB draft. Kuehler should become the team’s fourth in the past five years, joining Harrington, Seth Johnson and Zach Neto. 24. Guardians — Colt Emerson, SS, Glenn HS, New Concord, Ohio Emerson is young for the class (he won’t turn 18 until shortly after the draft) and impressed during the fall with a strong showing at Perfect Game’s WWBA World Championship in Jupiter, Fla. There he showed a compact and repeatable swing, strong bat-to-ball skills and good body control and arm strength at shortstop. 25. Braves — Bryce Eldridge, RHP/1B, Madison (Va.) HS If you asked during the summer, most scouts would probably have Eldridge in as a righthanded pitching prospect, but he went ballistic as a hitter with USA Baseball’s 18U National Team during the World Cup. Eldridge paced Team USA with three home runs and showed gargantuan raw power and impressive ability to get to that power in games. He hit .316/.517/.842 with as many walks (seven) as strikeouts and also threw three shutout innings en route to being named MVP of the tournament. 26. Dodgers — Will Sanders, RHP, South Carolina Sanders has a huge frame at 6-foot-6, 215 pounds and still has room to add strength in the future. He’s been solid for South Carolina as a starter for two years, and has posted a 3.47 ERA in 142.2 total innings, while using a three-pitch mix—a fastball up to 96 mph, a mid-80s changeup and a slider in the low-to-mid 80s. 27. Padres — Roch Cholowsky, SS, Hamilton HS, Chandler, Ariz. Cholowsky is a standout athlete and one of the better defensive shortstops in the 2023 class. His multi-sport ability (he’s a standout high school quarterback) meant he didn’t get as many at-bats during the 2022 summer and fall evaluation periods, but he has played in front of large scouting crowds with Hamilton (Chandler, Ariz.) High, including at USA Baseball’s National High School Invitational last spring. 28. Yankees — Brock Wilken, 3B, Wake Forest Scouts thought Wilken had a chance to grow into double-plus raw power when he was in high school, and this summer with Team USA he showed those projections were prescient by blasting towering home runs in batting practice at Durham Bulls park. Wilken’s game comes with some swing-and-miss, and he’ll need to improve his consistency in the field, but he has some of the best raw power in the entire draft class. He’s already hit 40 home runs with Wake Forest and should add another 20 or so in 2023. 29. Phillies — Adam Hachman, LHP, Timberland HS, Wentzville, Mo. Hachman wasn’t at full strength this summer as he was recovering from an elbow injury, and he can be inconsistent with his control. Even still, scouts raved about his future potential, given a high-spin fastball that has been in the mid 90s already, electric arm speed and a body to dream on at 6-foot-5, 205 pounds. A number of evaluators have him as their pick to click during the spring. 30. Astros — Tanner Witt, RHP, Texas If Witt hadn’t missed most of the 2022 season with an elbow injury, we might have been talking about him 20 spots earlier than this. However, as it stands, a Tommy John surgery clouds his draft status a bit. When healthy, Witt has shown an impressive four-pitch mix headlined by a fastball that gets up to 97 mph at peak velocity. He has posted a 2.91 ERA over 68 innings with Texas and was off to an electric start over two outings in 2022 before being shut down.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 This is why Stripling is so f'ing valuable as a swingman. Can handle medium, even high leverage out of the bullpen. Need a spot start, here's Stripling to give you 5 innings of average or better SP. I'd say this is why Stripling was so valuable as a swingman. Those days are over though, with the money being thrown around in free agency and stellar season he just had I just can't see any way he's going to have to settle for being a swingman type any more.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 I'd say this is why Stripling was so valuable as a swingman. Those days are over though, with the money being thrown around in free agency and stellar season he just had I just can't see any way he's going to have to settle for being a swingman type any more. Yeah, he'll be signing with a team that guarantees him a starting role for sure.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 I'd say this is why Stripling was so valuable as a swingman. Those days are over though, with the money being thrown around in free agency and stellar season he just had I just can't see any way he's going to have to settle for being a swingman type any more. Possibly, but he will go where the money is and do what the team wants.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Possibly, but he will go where the money is and do what the team wants. Taijuan Walker just got paid $72 million in free agency. If you honestly think that a guy who had a much stronger platform season is going to sign somewhere to be a swingman then we are going to have to agree to disagree.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Taijuan Walker just got paid $72 million in free agency. If you honestly think that a guy who had a much stronger platform season is going to sign somewhere to be a swingman then we are going to have to agree to disagree. Stripling knows if he signs with the Jays he will get a minimum of 20 starts, possibly much more depending on in-season moves etc.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Stripling knows if he signs with the Jays he will get a minimum of 20 starts, possibly much more depending on in-season moves etc. FFS Jim - nobody is signing Stripling to be a swingman.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Stripling knows if he signs with the Jays he will get a minimum of 20 starts, possibly much more depending on in-season moves etc. Why wouldn’t we give Stripling 30 starts if he signed back here? Likely we’d still keep him on the 5-6 inning per start thing, but I see no reason he shouldn’t get 30 starts if healthy. Even if Berrios bounces back Stripling would be the #4. And im sure someone will get injured
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 FFS Jim - nobody is signing Stripling to be a swingman. More to the point, Stripling isn't signing anywhere to be a swingman... He's shown that he can start, and starters get PAID.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Looks like we didn’t lose anyone in the Rule 5 Draft. We also didn’t draft anyone. First Round 1. Nationals: RHP Thad Ward (Red Sox) (hat tip to Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com) 2. A’s: 1B Ryan Noda (Dodgers) 3. Pirates: LHP Jose Hernandez (Dodgers) 4. Reds: OF Blake Sabol (Pirates); Reds later traded Sabol to Giants for cash or a player to be named later 5. Royals: pass 6. Tigers: RHP Mason Englert (Rangers) 7. Rangers: pass 8. Rockies: RHP Kevin Kelly (Guardians); Rockies later traded Kelly to Rays for cash considerations 9. Marlins: RHP Nic Enright (Guardians) 10. Angels: pass 11. D-backs: pass 12. Cubs: pass 13. Twins: pass 14. Red Sox: pass 15. White Sox: RHP Nick Avila (Giants) 16. Giants: pass 17. Orioles: RHP Andrew Politi (Red Sox) 18. Brewers: RHP Gus Varland (Dodgers) 19. Rays: pass 20. Phillies: RHP Noah Song (Red Sox) 21. Padres: LHP Jose Lopez (Rays) 22. Mariners: RHP Chris Clarke (Cubs) 23. Guardians: pass 24. Blue Jays: pass 25. Cardinals:RHP Wilking Rodriguez (Yankees) 26. Yankees: pass 27. Mets: RHP Zach Greene (Yankees) 27. Braves: pass 29. Astros: pass 30. Dodgers: pass No 2nd round.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 I was hoping the Jays would draft Misner from the Rays, oh well.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Why wouldn’t we give Stripling 30 starts if he signed back here? Likely we’d still keep him on the 5-6 inning per start thing, but I see no reason he shouldn’t get 30 starts if healthy. Even if Berrios bounces back Stripling would be the #4. And im sure someone will get injured I've seen reports over the years going back to his LAD days questioning his stamina/durability to be a full time starter. No idea where it comes from. Like this one from as recently as last June: However, his lack of durability (and therefore consistency) has repeatedly been an issue during his seven-year Major League career. There are other similar reports. Last year was a career high in innings pitched, maybe those concerns are out the window. MLB teams have more info of course so it will interesting to see what happens, given his 2021 success.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Looks like we didn’t lose anyone in the Rule 5 Draft. We also didn’t draft anyone. First Round 1. Nationals: RHP Thad Ward (Red Sox) (hat tip to Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com) 2. A’s: 1B Ryan Noda (Dodgers) 3. Pirates: LHP Jose Hernandez (Dodgers) 4. Reds: OF Blake Sabol (Pirates); Reds later traded Sabol to Giants for cash or a player to be named later 5. Royals: pass 6. Tigers: RHP Mason Englert (Rangers) 7. Rangers: pass 8. Rockies: RHP Kevin Kelly (Guardians); Rockies later traded Kelly to Rays for cash considerations 9. Marlins: RHP Nic Enright (Guardians) 10. Angels: pass 11. D-backs: pass 12. Cubs: pass 13. Twins: pass 14. Red Sox: pass 15. White Sox: RHP Nick Avila (Giants) 16. Giants: pass 17. Orioles: RHP Andrew Politi (Red Sox) 18. Brewers: RHP Gus Varland (Dodgers) 19. Rays: pass 20. Phillies: RHP Noah Song (Red Sox) 21. Padres: LHP Jose Lopez (Rays) 22. Mariners: RHP Chris Clarke (Cubs) 23. Guardians: pass 24. Blue Jays: pass 25. Cardinals:RHP Wilking Rodriguez (Yankees) 26. Yankees: pass 27. Mets: RHP Zach Greene (Yankees) 27. Braves: pass 29. Astros: pass 30. Dodgers: pass No 2nd round. Although he is not a top prospect anymore the Jays did lose Logan Warmoth In the Minor League portion also The Blue Jays added catcher Kekai Rios from the Dodgers, a 25-year-old who should offer some depth in the upper Minors
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Warmouth must have been removed off our AAA roster?
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Warmouth must have been removed off our AAA roster? SEA took him in the minor league rule 5 I believe
Ehjays Verified Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Warmouth must have been removed off our AAA roster? Must have, Im not really up on how the minor portion works. Is it anyone selected must stay in Buffalo the whole year. Not sure about that
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Warmoth was taken in the minor league rule 5 and the Jays took a AA catcher from the Dodgers
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Warmoth was taken in the minor league rule 5 and the Jays took a AA catcher from the Dodgers Former first round pick. I thought he showed signs of turning it around in 2021. But he had a terrible AAA season and its just never gonna hapen.
InsideThePark Verified Member Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Must have, Im not really up on how the minor portion works. Is it anyone selected must stay in Buffalo the whole year. Not sure about that No. There are no requirements once a player is taken in the minor league rule 5. The protection rosters for the rule 5 aren't actually the AAA rosters. Teams just get to protect up to 38 extra players in the minor league portion that they didn't protect in the regular portion. Without a doubt the Jays had Gabby Martinez on their "AAA roster" for this despite the fact he's played A+ at the highest. Calling it an AAA roster is meaningless really. Just the secondary group of protections which Warmoth wasn't on. You can only draft players in the minor league portion than you have space for in this 38 man "AAA roster". So if you protect 35 guys you can take 3. Jays had 37 so they could only take 1 in the draft. Some team drafted 7 guys so only protected 31. In theory you could protect nobody extra and grab 38 prospects for free without restrictions but they're all going to be not good and your best extra guys will be taken so it's a balancing act. Is our 78th guy(40 man roster + 38th extra protection slot) better than some other teams 79th guy. Probably not compared to some of the deeper teams. You basically keep leaving guys unprotected until you think that answer is no.
wamco Verified Member Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 Who will have a better career? Macko vs Robberse?
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 Who will have a better career? Macko vs Robberse? I'd say Robberse has a higher floor as a potential innings eater or better if the stuff picks up as he reportedly has a highly repeatable delivery, but Macko has a higher ceiling as he already displays excellent stuff. Macko seems pretty likely to end up as a reliever unless he can begin to harness his command a bit.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2022 Author Posted December 9, 2022 I'd say Robberse has a higher floor as a potential innings eater or better if the stuff picks up as he reportedly has a highly repeatable delivery, but Macko has a higher ceiling as he already displays excellent stuff. Macko seems pretty likely to end up as a reliever unless he can begin to harness his command a bit. I'll be curious to see if Roberse has an uptick in velocity this spring. I think adding to the FB was something he wanted to work on this off-season.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 I'll be curious to see if Roberse has an uptick in velocity this spring. I think adding to the FB was something he wanted to work on this off-season. That's apparently the goal for the organization as well. Robberse is still pretty young/slight of build and is supposed to have a lot of remaining projection physically. The team has a great player development complex and pitching lab so it feels pretty realistic that Robberse can squeeze out a few more ticks of velocity.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 I’ll take Macko on both ceiling and “floor” Both have floors of absolutely nothing but sounds like Macko has better stuff. That’s mostly what matters
Ehjays Verified Member Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 T.J. Brock His numbers may not have reflected it, but the sixth round pick from last June is an arm the organization is very high on. Blue Jays Director of Player Development Joe Sclafani said, “his stuff is unreal. He has a big-time arm, and he touched 99 to 100 this fall. His slider is real – it’s already one of the best ones in the organization.“ More TJ stuff:
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