Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[RustyTrombone]

Did he rub off on Groshans or did Groshans rub off on him?

 

Personally I think Charlie rubbed both of em off.

[Daniel Labude]

Orelvis 0-2 tonight with 2 Ks and 3 BBs

[Daniel Labude]

[WryNGinger]

 

Yah that was some 111mph power. Hopefully he is getting healthy and we see some more home run and gap power from him.

[Daniel Labude]

https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2022/8/15/babip-is-a-skill

[Jonn]

 

God this kids swag is off the charts. He’s going to be electric for the Dodgers.

 

Just so much swing and miss

[Spanky__99]

MLB Pipeline updated top 100...

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/top-100-prospects-updated-2022-midseason-rankings?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

 

Jays top 30...

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-top-30-prospects-2022-midseason-rerank?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

[RustyTrombone]

 

God this kids swag is off the charts. He’s going to be electric for the Dodgers.

 

Just so much swing and miss

 

If pans out he will easily be the best player in the trade.

[Brownie19]

If pans out he will easily be the best player in the trade.

 

Obviously. Did you think LA would trade White and De Jesus for someone who wouldn't be better than them both "IF" he pans out?

[Blazeit420]

Too bad Frasso is an old grandpa. Alex De Jesus is the more exciting guy in that trade.

[Spanky__99]

Too bad Frasso is an old grandpa. Alex De Jesus is the more exciting guy in that trade.

 

This doesn't get mentioned enough, Jays come out very well in that trade. I'll take the 45 bat over the 45 pitcher...

 

Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 40 | Arm: 65 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45

 

One of the top third-base prospects in the 2018 international class, De Jesus moved to shortstop after signing for $500,000 out of the Dominican Republic. His 2021 full-season debut as a 19-year-old was a tale of two halves. He got too power-hungry early on and batted .210/.315/.395 with a 38 percent strikeout rate in the first two months, then made adjustments and hit .314/.440/.490 with a 25 percent whiff rate afterward.

 

De Jesus has enough strength and bat speed that he doesn't have to lengthen his right-handed stroke and swing for the fences to hit for power. He did a better job of using the opposite field in 2021 and could become an average hitter with solid pop if he stays under control. He drew 45 walks in his final 54 games and made more consistent hard contact once he started making better swing decisions.

 

Six-foot-2 and more physical than his listed 170 pounds, De Jesus started getting more looks back at the hot corner in 2022. He has below-average speed, though his surprisingly smooth actions and well above-average arm strength help him make plays at shortstop. His range projects as fringy at best at short but he could be at least an average defender at third base.

 

Frasso had first-round aspirations entering his junior season at Loyola Marymount in 2020, but he strained his forearm during the shortened college season and lasted until the Blue Jays took him in the fourth round of the five-round Draft. He had elbow surgery in June 2021 but returned to the mound 11 months later to showcase power stuff. The Dodgers acquired him and right-handed pitching prospect Moises Brito at the Trade Deadline for Mitch White and infield prospect Alex DeJesus.

 

Frasso hit 97 mph with his fastball in college and has reached new heights this summer, topping out at 100 while sitting at 95-97 with some armside run on his four-seamer. His 82-86 mph slider gets swings and misses with its combination of horizontal action and depth. He's making a concerted effort to work on his mid-80s changeup, which features promising fade and sink.

 

Though Frasso still needs more consistency with his slider and changeup, both have the potential to become solid offerings and flash better than that. He has a history of throwing strikes, and though he had yet to go past four innings in a pro outing at the time of the trade, he has the upside of a mid-rotation starter. If durability proves an issue, he has the stuff to have late-inning impact as a reliever.

Edited August 18, 2022 by Spanky99

[The Cats Ass]

Frasso will be a bullpen guy if he can stay healthy. It's obvious neither team thinks he'll cut it as a starter. In his 12th start of the year he went a whole 2.2 innings.

[Brownie19]

Frasso will be a bullpen guy if he can stay healthy. It's obvious neither team thinks he'll cut it as a starter. In his 12th start of the year he went a whole 2.2 innings.

 

Very likely the case. He could be a really solid bullpen arm though. Obviously the stuff is there.

[Terminator]

Frasso will be a bullpen guy if he can stay healthy. It's obvious neither team thinks he'll cut it as a starter. In his 12th start of the year he went a whole 2.2 innings.

 

Yeah the guy has never thrown more than 60 innings in a year in college or the pros and he's almost 24.

 

He's thrown 174 innings in his entire collegiate and pro career combined.

[Terminator]

This doesn't get mentioned enough, Jays come out very well in that trade. I'll take the 45 bat over the 45 pitcher...

 

Frankly I think we hosed them. Frasso for White in itself was probably fair but given our needs I'd prefer the MLB-caliber SP with 5 years of control. But to get a similar prospect to Frasso in De Jesus on top of it tips the deal in our favor.

 

That's not to say that the Dodgers don't know what they are doing but they churn out so many MLB caliber players they have to get rid of some of them in order to deal with roster concerns.

[Spanky__99]

I think the Dodgers will build him up, these guys slow play their prospects a lot, they'll give him at least another full year or 2 as a starter. They churn out prospects like a turnstile. I doubt they see any rush.

[Spanky__99]

Frankly I think we hosed them. Frasso for White in itself was probably fair but given our needs I'd prefer the MLB-caliber SP with 5 years of control. But to get a similar prospect to Frasso in De Jesus on top of it tips the deal in our favor.

 

That's not to say that the Dodgers don't know what they are doing but they churn out so many MLB caliber players they have to get rid of some of them in order to deal with roster concerns.

 

Agreed, also funny we used the same word in different context, yeah there's certainly the 40 man crunch issue with them. Must be nice.

[Laika]

Frankly I think we hosed them. Frasso for White in itself was probably fair but given our needs I'd prefer the MLB-caliber SP with 5 years of control. But to get a similar prospect to Frasso in De Jesus on top of it tips the deal in our favor.

 

That's not to say that the Dodgers don't know what they are doing but they churn out so many MLB caliber players they have to get rid of some of them in order to deal with roster concerns.

 

Them losing White is kind of just a guy falling off their roster. Like in fantasy when you are the #1 team and you cut a good player. They have tons of SP depth and players getting healthy, he was going to be demoted and disgruntled, so they took a prospect upgrade now.

[John_Havok]

Them losing White is kind of just a guy falling off their roster. Like in fantasy when you are the #1 team and you cut a good player. They have tons of SP depth and players getting healthy, he was going to be demoted and disgruntled, so they took a prospect upgrade now.

 

Frasso looks like a closer in the making. Though when all you see is the strikeout pitch and not what leads up to it, it's hard to say for sure. He does get deep in counts alot, his command is not great, but the stuff is legit. His delivery is a bit funky with some deception, which is probably why he has less than ponpoint command, that arm action and slot cant be very easy to repeat consistently.

[AMS528]

MLB Pipeline updated top 100...

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/top-100-prospects-updated-2022-midseason-rankings?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

 

Jays top 30...

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-top-30-prospects-2022-midseason-rerank?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

 

 

Completely unrelated to anything about baseball, but I made the bad decision to click on the post in your signature and that was a god damn adventure of a thread.

[Jimcanuck]

Completely unrelated to anything about baseball, but I made the bad decision to click on the post in your signature and that was a god damn adventure of a thread.

 

BJMB is my go-to for advice on mail order brides.

[The Iceman]

Something I just read that has snuck up on me is Nate Pearson turns 26 years old tomorrow.

 

One year younger than (insert random player here) Roberto Osuna!!

[gruber92]

Teideman with a nice outing tonight..

 

3IP 0H 0ER 1BB 5K

 

Only 41 pitches..

[Daniel Labude]

Orelvis 0-2 tonight with 2 Ks and 3 BBs

 

2 more BBs tonight. Thats 5 in his last 2 games

[John_Havok]

2 more BBs tonight. Thats 5 in his last 2 games

 

It’s not his walks that are the problem, it’s the K rate combined with the pop up rate. Pop ups are basically strikeouts and his Iffb rate is more than 25%.

 

56% of his PAs are virtually worthless.

[InsideThePark]

It’s not his walks that are the problem, it’s the K rate combined with the pop up rate. Pop ups are basically strikeouts and his Iffb rate is more than 25%.

 

56% of his PAs are virtually worthless.

 

IFFB% is not the percentage of plate apperances that result in pop ups. It's what % of your fly balls are infield fly balls = pop ups/total number of fly balls. Fly ball% is number of fly balls/total number of balls you hit, not total number of plate apperances. To determine what % of the time you're hitting pop ups you need to multiple the IFFB% by the FB% and then again by the % of PA's that end up as non K's or BB.

 

His FB% is 51.5% of which roughly a quarter(25.2%) are pop ups which means roughly 13.0% of balls he makes contact with are pop ups. Since he strikes out 29.9% of the time and walks 7.2% of the time he only makes contact 62.9% of the time. 13% of that is 8.2% so he's only popping up 8.2% of his plate appearances not 25% like you suggest. Along with the 29.9% K rate that makes 38.1% of his plate appearances useless.

 

That's still pretty bad, but nowhere near 56% which would be entirely unrosterable.

[John_Havok]

IFFB% is not the percentage of plate apperances that result in pop ups. It's what % of your fly balls are infield fly balls = pop ups/total number of fly balls. Fly ball% is number of fly balls/total number of balls you hit, not total number of plate apperances. To determine what % of the time you're hitting pop ups you need to multiple the IFFB% by the FB% and then again by the % of PA's that end up as non K's or BB.

 

His FB% is 51.5% of which roughly a quarter(25.2%) are pop ups which means roughly 13.0% of balls he makes contact with are pop ups. Since he strikes out 29.9% of the time and walks 7.2% of the time he only makes contact 62.9% of the time. 13% of that is 8.2% so he's only popping up 8.2% of his plate appearances not 25% like you suggest. Along with the 29.9% K rate that makes 38.1% of his plate appearances useless.

 

That's still pretty bad, but nowhere near 56% which would be entirely unrosterable.

 

Good catch. Still…nearly 40% of PAs being useless is not encouraging.

[Daniel Labude]

It’s not his walks that are the problem, it’s the K rate combined with the pop up rate. Pop ups are basically strikeouts and his Iffb rate is more than 25%.

 

56% of his PAs are virtually worthless.

 

Swing decisions, pitch recognition, quality of contact. Worry less about pop ups and more that a 20 year old dominating AA in the power department is continuously improving in areas

[metafour]

Cade Doughty just hit his 3rd HR since turning pro in the first inning.

[John_Havok]

Cade Doughty just hit his 3rd HR since turning pro in the first inning.

 

The sentence structure displayed here is amazing lol