Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Orgfiller]

What's nuts is Jorge Alfaro coming in at 59th, just below Tim Anderson and ahead of Bellinger, Michael A. Taylor and Derek Fisher.

[Krylian]

Manoah on the mound last night. Not as successful of an outing as last time out but it looks like he was using his changeup more.

3IP, 3H, 2R, 2ER, 0BB, 2K, 1HR

 

 

[Orgfiller]

Fun fact: Vlad Jr. is the third youngest position player to have played for the Dunedin Blue Jays this season. Technically second since we had someone called Hugo Cardona make a random one game appearance and then be sent back to rookie ball lol. Bo was the sixth youngest. Both were on rehab stints of course. Just to give some perspective on how f***ing good at baseball those two guys are, they'd be young for high-A and here they are, succeeding at the MLB level.

[z3r0s]

man I hope we can get these guys extended when the time is right

[BlueRocky]

man I hope we can get these guys extended when the time is right

 

We have what, 30M in committed salaries next season?

16M active payroll and 14M Tulo retirement fund.

 

Shapiro also said the money will be available when it’s time to spend. He was transparent enough last week to come out and say they are shopping for arms in the offseason.

 

The payroll fluctuated between 110-160M in the past few years, which gives front office between 80M to 130M to work with, put away some of that to extend the kids and there’s still a ton of money left, Tulo’s salary will mostly be off the books in 2021. The position players are mostly locked in for years on bubble gum salaries.

Either way they have a Ton of money to spend.

 

The second wave of pitching prospects coming up are also much stronger, names we might see next season include:

- Nate Pearson

- Anthony Kay

- Patrick Murphy

- TJ Zeuch

- Joey Murray

- Julian Merryweather

- Andrew Sopko

- Yennsy Diaz

- Hector Perez

- Zach Logue

- Jackson McClelland

- Thomas Hatch

Edited August 15, 2019 by BlueRocky

[glory]

man I hope we can get these guys extended when the time is right

 

The next CBA brings a lot of uncertainty. If I'm the Jays, I approach them this winter to see if something can be reached. I don't think they'll give away their primes for a peanut butter sandwich like the Braves players did, but the Jays have enough payroll flexibility to pay them well and build around them.

[Slade]

Manoah on the mound last night. Not as successful of an outing as last time out but it looks like he was using his changeup more.

3IP, 3H, 2R, 2ER, 0BB, 2K, 1HR

 

 

 

Law did say his changeup is a lot further along than people think. Glad to see he's not wasting any time. Actually surprised they are giving him 3 innings each outing considering how much he has pitched already this year.

[Barkerfan23]

We have what, 30M in committed salaries next season?

16M active payroll and 14M Tulo retirement fund.

 

Shapiro also said the money will be available when it’s time to spend. He was transparent enough last week to come out and say they are shopping for arms in the offseason.

 

The payroll fluctuated between 110-160M in the past few years, which gives front office between 80M to 130M to work with, put away some of that to extend the kids and there’s still a ton of money left, Tulo’s salary will mostly be off the books in 2021. The position players are mostly locked in for years on bubble gum salaries.

Either way they have a Ton of money to spend.

 

The second wave of pitching prospects coming up are also much stronger, names we might see next season include:

- Nate Pearson

- Anthony Kay

- Patrick Murphy

- TJ Zeuch

- Joey Murray

- Julian Merryweather

- Andrew Sopko

- Yennsy Diaz

- Hector Perez

- Zach Logue

- Jackson McClelland

- Thomas Hatch

 

K thanks Ross Atkins. Christ some of those names are f***ing terrible.

[bendera3]

So this channel has a decent amount of Blue Jays content. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KvaNhxe6zRRmlokRVoMKw

[Ray]

The stuff looks solid on the surface but the results just haven't been there consistently. I know, results as a whole don't mean that much in the minors but the fact that his K rate is mediocre doesn't instill much swing-and-miss confidence. I don't expect that he'll have any success at all as a starter, but I'm holding out hope that maybe his stuff plays up in the pen and the FB/CB combo can be effective there.

 

The good news is that he has shown time and time again he can limit home runs in pretty much every level of the minors.

 

If he can be Dakota Hudson, I'll take that in a heartbeat.

[Krylian]

Pearson: 5.2IP, 4H, 0R, 3BB, 6K

[Jonn]

Pearson: 5.2IP, 4H, 0R, 3BB, 6K

 

Most importantly finally got his first AA win. We want a winner out there on that mound.

[Jimcanuck]

Most importantly finally got his first AA win. We want a winner out there on that mound.

 

lol, you are a damn troll

[Angrioter]

Most importantly finally got his first AA win. We want a winner out there on that mound.

W, ERAz and Whipz

[Krylian]

Kloffenstein with a gem.

 

5IP, 2H, 0R, 1BB, 8K

[BlueRocky]

Like Kay and many other pitchers this year, Deivi Garcia went from dominating double-A to face-planting in triple-A with the new juicy baseballs

 

27.1 IP, 5.93 ERA, 6.14 FIP, 1.54 WHIP,

Dropped 14.59—> 8.89 K/9

HR/9 jumped 0.34—> 1.98

HR/FB % jumped 5%—> 19.4%

 

He’s still a good prospect. But the juiced baseball thing is very real and affected pitchers across the industry. Not only does the ball fly off bats, it even feels different while gripping and spins differently from a pitchers hand. Needless to say there’s an adjustment period to the new baseballs.

 

Garcia could probably recover from this and he’s still very young for the level, but the Yankees missed an opportunity to trade him at all-time-high value last month.

Edited August 16, 2019 by BlueRocky

[Ziggyy108]

Looking back through AA's drafts, they were actually pretty bad. Especially his last couple 2013, 2014, 2015

[Dr. Dinger]

Kloffenstein with a gem.

 

5IP, 2H, 0R, 1BB, 8K

 

He's also a GB monster with a rate over 60% and is the youngest pitcher in either low-A ball league.

[Brownie19]

Like Kay and many other pitchers this year, Deivi Garcia went from dominating double-A to face-planting in triple-A with the new juicy baseballs

 

27.1 IP, 5.93 ERA, 6.14 FIP, 1.54 WHIP,

Dropped 14.59—> 8.89 K/9

HR/9 jumped 0.34—> 1.98

HR/FB % jumped 5%—> 19.4%

 

He’s still a good prospect. But the juiced baseball thing is very real and affected pitchers across the industry. Not only does the ball fly off bats, it even feels different while gripping and spins differently from a pitchers hand. Needless to say there’s an adjustment period to the new baseballs.

 

Garcia could probably recover from this and he’s still very young for the level, but the Yankees missed an opportunity to trade him at all-time-high value last month.

 

Can someone smarter than me answer some of these questions I have.

 

1. The 'juiced' ball is in fact simply the ML baseball right?

2. Is there anything to suggest pitchers actually 'adjust' to this new ball and learn how to be effect with it over time? I guess - has there been a pattern of pitchers moving up - getting crushed and then slowly but surely returning to their prior production/effectiveness?

[Daniel Labude]

Can someone smarter than me answer some of these questions I have.

 

1. The 'juiced' ball is in fact simply the ML baseball right?

2. Is there anything to suggest pitchers actually 'adjust' to this new ball and learn how to be effect with it over time? I guess - has there been a pattern of pitchers moving up - getting crushed and then slowly but surely returning to their prior production/effectiveness?

 

1. AAA is using the same as the Majors I believe

2. I think over time pitchers adjust, but there is still an increase in numbers overall by default imo

[BlueRocky]

Triple-A is featuring the recent updated MLB balls, it’s the main culprit to the HR spike in the game, along with the shifts and increasing trend of dingers or die trying approach.

 

General feedback from triple-A players is the ball feels different especially across the seams. By adding a ball that flies off bats to small minor league stadiums (esp high altitude parks in the PCL), triple-A has turned into a HR haven. It’s almost like Coors Field but league wide.

 

Pitchers not only need to adjust to grip & feel of the new ball, they need to adjust to previous flyball outs are now leaving the park, which forces them to tweak their approach, sequences, and pitch usage to induce more ground balls and strikeouts.

 

In the past, a prospect can dominate double-A, and be effective in the MLB. Now they have a hurdle to leap over in triple-A.

[Brownie19]

Triple-A is featuring the recent updated MLB balls, it’s the main culprit to the HR spike in the game, along with the shifts and increasing trend of dingers or die trying approach.

 

General feedback from triple-A players is the ball feels different especially across the seams. By adding a ball that flies off bats to small minor league stadiums (esp high altitude parks in the PCL), triple-A has turned into a HR haven. It’s almost like Coors Field but league wide.

 

Pitchers not only need to adjust to grip & feel of the new ball, they need to adjust to previous flyball outs are now leaving the park, which forces them to tweak their approach, sequences, and pitch usage to induce more ground balls and strikeouts.

 

In the past, a prospect can dominate double-A, and be effective in the MLB. Now they have a hurdle to leap over in triple-A.

 

AAA parks are typically smaller than MLB parks? I didn't realise that. It sounds to me like AAA now gets them a lot more prepared to what the MLB is going to be like.

 

 

On a side note - another question...why is the PCL so awesome for hitters? I know some of the teams play at a higher altitude, but not all of them do right?

[Barkerfan23]

Kay 6ks through 4

[Krylian]

Kay done for the night.

 

5IP, 4H, 2R, 2ER, 3BB, 8K, 0HR

[Jonn]

 

I’m loving those jerseys.

[Krylian]

 

I’m loving those jerseys.

 

I suddenly have a hankering for a bison burger.

[THANOS]

Kay is looking real good lately. Getting really excited about him.

[glory]

25 K's in 20.2 innings for Kay since the trade (14 walks though). Only given up 2 home runs in those 20 innings. Showing positive signs but not there yet.

[Krylian]

Griffin Conine with his 20th HR of the season.

 

Lansing up 19-1

[Slade]

 

 

 

 

 

Clearly the stuff is there he just needs to work on his command.