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Is his career over because he sucks? or because of the injuries he sustained?

 

he was never going to have an MLB career but he'd get lots of opportunities to be paid for baseball on his name alone. Can't throw a ball still, so I'd assume can't swing a bat either. Capel had a shot to make the bigs at some point.

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Kacy Clemens career is over after his run-in with bouncers at a Houston bar on New Years Eve. Connor Capel (who is in the Cards org) suffered a fractured skull. Neither were intoxicated and are suing for $200k and are fighting to get the bar shutdown.

 

 

It's pretty hard to imagine a scenario where a bouncer fracturing the skull of a patron is justified short of a weapon being flourished.

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Concrete Cowboy has to be a gay bar

 

not that there's anything wrong with that

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he was never going to have an MLB career but he'd get lots of opportunities to be paid for baseball on his name alone. Can't throw a ball still, so I'd assume can't swing a bat either. Capel had a shot to make the bigs at some point.

 

It's been a month. Put your ugly sock in this "career is over" BS. I once had diarrhea for a month. The main benefit of this lawsuit for Clemens will be a convenient context to explain his failure to make it in baseball.

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It's been a month. Put your ugly sock in this "career is over" BS. I once had diarrhea for a month. The main benefit of this lawsuit for Clemens will be a convenient context to explain his failure to make it in baseball.

 

It might be posturing for the lawsuit but that what I read today is that his career is done. So Mr. Lawyer considering what we are used to hearing for numbers in U.S. lawsuits, why is the number on this suit seeming so low? I mean Capel could argue that he is a top 30 prospect for the Cards. Or can you not project future earnings that way?

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It might be posturing for the lawsuit but that what I read today is that his career is done. So Mr. Lawyer considering what we are used to hearing for numbers in U.S. lawsuits, why is the number on this suit seeming so low? I mean Capel could argue that he is a top 30 prospect for the Cards. Or can you not project future earnings that way?

 

I would no idea how injury claim calculations work in Ontario, let alone Texas. It's $200k to $1M - that is a very big number for some some bumps and scrapes and hurt feelings (Clemens). The press release says both players are reporting to spring training in a couple of weeks. I would guess it's not an astronomical USA style number because the lawyer knows they don't have substantial or career threatening injuries. The trial would take forever so if they file now, and then Capel finds out his skull fracture caused a hematoma that ruined his vision and his hit tool, his lawyer could maybe do something to increase the claim amount.

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I would no idea how injury claim calculations work in Ontario, let alone Texas. It's $200k to $1M - that is a very big number for some some bumps and scrapes and hurt feelings (Clemens). The press release says both players are reporting to spring training in a couple of weeks. I would guess it's not an astronomical USA style number because the lawyer knows they don't have substantial or career threatening injuries. The trial would take forever so if they file now, and then Capel finds out his skull fracture caused a hematoma that ruined his vision and his hit tool, his lawyer could maybe do something to increase the claim amount.

 

Damn I thought for sure you were a greasy ambulance chaser

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Concrete Cowboy has to be a gay bar

 

not that there's anything wrong with that

 

I've been before lol. Not a gay bar. It's a s***** and trendy bro bar in the frat boy part of Houston.

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I've been before lol. Not a gay bar. It's a s***** and trendy bro bar in the frat boy part of Houston.

 

Ah. One of those "I'll realize I'm gay in fifteen years" bars.

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I don't know how Jansen is ranked outside the top 100, especially compared to 19 year old pitching prospects and crap like that. He's hit the s*** out of the ball the past two seasons and in 100 big league ABs he looked very good. From all the pitch framing metrics I've seen he appears to be league average. Defensive reports aren't glowing but he appears to be acceptable back there.

 

Steamer has him pegged for 2.6 WAR in 100 games next year. To me he has a high floor and ceiling. How do you rank a guy like that outside of the Top 30 or so? Criminally underrated.

 

Could you post the listing, including the just missed, thanks?

 

Who has ESPN access? Can you post his history of top 100's just to see if Law is terrible or not.

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/10334094/complete-archive-keith-law-ranking-top-100-prospects-mlb

 

Lmao I knew something like this was coming

 

Please, lol.

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Norm Chouinard (Connecticut):

 

Got my Prospect Handbook Tuesday. One of the best days of the year. If I could somehow force you to do so, how would you rank Vlad Jr, Soto, Ohtani, and Acuna at this point?

 

Kyle Glaser: We ranked Acuna and Ohtani ahead of Vlad Jr. last year and I would still do that today. Soto is interesting to throw into that mix. Behind Acuna and Ohtani, and my first thought is to leave Vlad ahead, but Soto is lefthanded and is better than a 1B/DH long-term. It's interesting. I'm not sure I feel confident on a Vlad Jr. vs Soto answer

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Norm Chouinard (Connecticut):

 

Got my Prospect Handbook Tuesday. One of the best days of the year. If I could somehow force you to do so, how would you rank Vlad Jr, Soto, Ohtani, and Acuna at this point?

 

Kyle Glaser: We ranked Acuna and Ohtani ahead of Vlad Jr. last year and I would still do that today. Soto is interesting to throw into that mix. Behind Acuna and Ohtani, and my first thought is to leave Vlad ahead, but Soto is lefthanded and is better than a 1B/DH long-term. It's interesting. I'm not sure I feel confident on a Vlad Jr. vs Soto answer

 

Don't disagree with any of that.... Except that Ohtani was considered a prospect...

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Don't disagree with any of that.... Except that Ohtani was considered a prospect...

 

Ohtani was 23. Don't really have an issue with him being considered a prospect, regardless of his experience in Japan.

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Ohtani was 23. Don't really have an issue with him being considered a prospect, regardless of his experience in Japan.

 

Does that translate into you agreeing that a player in their first year, even if say a 28 yr old established All-Star in Japan should be eligible for ROY?

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Does that translate into you agreeing that a player in their first year, even if say a 28 yr old established All-Star in Japan should be eligible for ROY?

 

Yeah, I don't have a big issue with them being eligible, although I don't really care either way. Regardless Ohtani was the same age as normal prospects breaking into the league, so I have no issues with him being considered a prospect.

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Does that translate into you agreeing that a player in their first year, even if say a 28 yr old established All-Star in Japan should be eligible for ROY?

 

He was 23, man.

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Yeah, I don't have a big issue with them being eligible, although I don't really care either way. Regardless Ohtani was the same age as normal prospects breaking into the league, so I have no issues with him being considered a prospect.

 

What's the cut off for IFA's from the NPB as rookie eligible, I don't think Kikuchi's available is he?

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What's the cut off for IFA's from the NPB as rookie eligible, I don't think Kikuchi's available is he?

 

I didn't think there was one, but maybe there is.

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I know Othani was, I am just asking if it is only age that is his deciding factor in general or if it is first year...

 

Sorry, I thought cause of his age, is what he meant, apparently not, lol.

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I know they lowered it.

 

This is what MLB says about rookie status:

 

Determining rookie status:

A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (B) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).

Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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This is what MLB says about rookie status:

 

Sure, I'm talking about players coming from the NPB. I think Suzuki was the last guy that won it at his age, I'm almost positive they lowered it. I can't find s***, lol. *checked for a whopping minute*:P

 

Also, holy f***, Ichiro's my age, lol.

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Sure, I'm talking about players coming from the NPB. I think Suzuki was the last guy that won it at his age, I'm almost positive they lowered it.

 

I'm 99% sure there's no distinction on foreign leagues, and no age limits. The formal definition of a rookie certainly doesn't have one.

Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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I'm 99% sure there's no distinction on foreign leagues, and no age limits. The formal definition of a rookie certainly doesn't have one.

 

Looks that way, maybe I dreamed it, lol.

 

I edited my post.

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