Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Boxcar]

A 117 wRC+ as a 20 year old legit SS in AA is bad?

 

Your dumn

 

Hmm, a guy who was hitting like Mike Trout last year goes to a 117 wRC+? Yeah, I'd say that's a bit of a drop off. I didn't say he was bad, you f***ing dummies, I said he was a disappointment. That's relative to what he was doing last year.

 

Holy f***, I swear some of you guys are still having your mom play airplane with your pureed food. Want to summon a wave of butthurt? Mention Bo Bichette in a not super positive light.

[Brownie19]

Good

- Cavan Biggio. Went from a nothing prospect to a top 10 guy. Walks just as inpressive as home run power.

- Kevin Smith. Glove first SS with a now developing bat, with some pop. Also suprisingly a SB threat.

- Bo Bichette. Always high on his bat, but was convinced he was 2B. Looking like a legit SS and has a lot more speed than advertised. Need to walk more and focus on contact rather than chasing exit velos.

- Eric Pardinho. Looking legit so far as a 17 yr old in Bluefield.

- Jordan Groshans. Much better bat than anticipated, slowed down by injuries.

- Brock Lundquist. Where the hell did this bat come from? Hitting better in FSL than MWL. Hope it’s sustainable.

- Ryan Noda. The power is real, the walks were a bit ridiculous in the 1st half.

- Sean Reid-Foley. Last year was disappointing. Didn’t think he would rebound this quickly and make the big leagues already.

- Patrick Murphy. Been “a guy” for awhile but seems to finally be healthy and producing. Let’s see him in AA for a season.

- Jordan Romano. Looks like there’s enough stuff there to at least get a chance as 5th SP or bullpen guy.

- TJ Zeuch. Didn’t expect him to have a good season in AA, his A+ numbers weren’t anything special. Seems to have figured out something.

- Samad Taylor. At least his wheels look legit. RIP Joe Smith.

- Jonathan Davis. Might just be good enough for a backup role, which is a lot for a guy completely written off not too long ago.

- Harold Ramirez. Just staying hot enough, still deciding if he’s a writeoff. But he’s having a good season for his own standards.

- Chavez Young. Success continues in Lansing.

- Yennsy Diaz. Somewhat moving quickly and looks okay at Dunedin.

- Miguel Hiraldo. Need to see him hit at a higher level. Didn’t expect him as a SB threat but nice to see.

- Maverik Buffo. Found money.

- Travis Bergen. More found money.. Danny Barnes 2.0?

- Gabriel Moreno. Guy came outta nowhere.

- Otto Lopez. Another guy came outta nowhere.

- Chad Spanberger. Hitting well in FSL despite the doubts of Coors 2.0 park factor pumping his tires. Looks like a real power threat from the left side.

 

Bad

- Anthony Alford. Guy can’t hit in AAA and I’m not sure he can stay healthy, ala Pompey. Don’t understand the hype.

- Richard Urena. Has no bat, not much of a role going forward with current middle infield depth.

- Max Pentecost. I think he’s done. He stayed relatively healthy all year, yet couldn’t produce enough offensively to impress despite being in a juggernaut lineup all season.

- Dalton Pompey. This guy needs a change of scenery and visit an exorcist. His luck is complete feces, and wasn’t that good in limited PA. Time to let go.

- Logan Warmoth. Couldn’t stay healthy all season with nagging leg injuries.

- Riley Adams. Not impressed offensively, can’t comment on catching.

 

Nice breakdown - a couple of names there I'd never heard of.

 

Can anyone tell me about Travis Bergen? Great K/BB ratios this year as a lefty out of the pen...but he's 24 and in AA. Is he a hard thrower? We really could use a reliable lefty in our pen moving forward. Mayza's probably that guy, but it would be nice if we had a couple of options.

[Krylian]

How is Gabriel Moreno s***. He's hitting 360 in Bluefiled.

Overall this season he's hitting 402. with 3 home runs, and 32 rbi.

And in 117 abs he has strike out 9 times. And he adds to the catching depth.

 

No one said he's s***. Read again.

[King]

Bad - Bichette

 

 

I didn't say he was bad, you f***ing dummies, I said he was a disappointment. That's relative to what he was doing last year.

 

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[The Iceman]

^^^BaHaHA, that is funny

[Olerud363]

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The original question was

 

"Which Blue Jays prospect has surprised you the most this season (good or bad)?"

 

So in the context of the original question, bad obviously just means bad surprise.

[Slade]

Miguel Hiraldo moved up to the GCL.

 

.313/.381/.453 2HR and 15SB for a pretty thicc dude.

[Jimcanuck]

Hmm, a guy who was hitting like Mike Trout last year goes to a 117 wRC+? Yeah, I'd say that's a bit of a drop off. I didn't say he was bad, you f***ing dummies, I said he was a disappointment. That's relative to what he was doing last year.

 

Holy f***, I swear some of you guys are still having your mom play airplane with your pureed food. Want to summon a wave of butthurt? Mention Bo Bichette in a not super positive light.

 

Another in a long list of dumb Boxbaby posts.

[Ray]

Samad Taylor already had 40 stolen bases on the season

[Krylian]

Samad Taylor already had 40 stolen bases on the season

 

Imagine if his obp was better than .320.

[Laika]

Samad Taylor already had 40 stolen bases on the season

 

Really weird prospect year for this guy.

 

2017 and 2016 he hits .294 with like, no stolen bases.

 

Now he steals 40+ but only hits .232

 

How the f*** does a guy with easy 70 speed (I think I've read this) and decent enough contact skills (K%) only hit .232 in the minor leagues? You'd think he could just run his way to a .250+ average on minor league defenses.

[Krylian]

Really weird prospect year for this guy.

 

2017 and 2016 he hits .294 with like, no stolen bases.

 

Now he steals 40+ but only hits .232

 

How the f*** does a guy with easy 70 speed (I think I've read this) and decent enough contact skills (K%) only hit .232 in the minor leagues? You'd think he could just run his way to a .250+ average on minor league defenses.

 

Sometimes s*** just doesn't go your way. Tiebreaker next season.

[THANOS]

Really weird prospect year for this guy.

 

2017 and 2016 he hits .294 with like, no stolen bases.

 

Now he steals 40+ but only hits .232

 

How the f*** does a guy with easy 70 speed (I think I've read this) and decent enough contact skills (K%) only hit .232 in the minor leagues? You'd think he could just run his way to a .250+ average on minor league defenses.

 

Must have horrendous BABIP luck?

[Laika]

Sometimes s*** just doesn't go your way. Tiebreaker next season.

 

You kind of have to just assume that he has basically no power and will never hit.

[Laika]

Must have horrendous BABIP luck?

 

When it's a prospect I tend to error on the side of BAD rather than BAD LUCK.

[Orgfiller]

Really weird prospect year for this guy.

 

2017 and 2016 he hits .294 with like, no stolen bases.

 

Now he steals 40+ but only hits .232

 

How the f*** does a guy with easy 70 speed (I think I've read this) and decent enough contact skills (K%) only hit .232 in the minor leagues? You'd think he could just run his way to a .250+ average on minor league defenses.

 

Well superior prospect and legit 80 speed guy Jorge Mateo has also run some low batting averages in the minors, it's probably a combination of poor quality of contact (not even slapping the ball?) and some semblance of bad luck - however much that is possible in the low minors.

[jaysguy44]

Does Bo project to be a legit base stealing threat in the majors?

[THANOS]

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/hentgen-blue-jays-farm-system-has-great-talent-coming-1.1157072

 

Pat Heathen is so great to listen to. Love seeing a legend discuss FIP and K-rate and other analytics.

[Captain Adama]

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/hentgen-blue-jays-farm-system-has-great-talent-coming-1.1157072

 

Pat Heathen is so great to listen to. Love seeing a legend discuss FIP and K-rate and other analytics.

 

What a great typo

[THANOS]

What a great typo

 

Haha great catch. His only religion now is baseball analytics.

[Laika]

Does Bo project to be a legit base stealing threat in the majors?

 

Nah

[glory]

Calling it now, this time next year Samad Taylor is a top 10 prospect in the system. He will be 20 in Dunedin for most of next season. He's still very young but holding his own.

[Krylian]

Calling it now, this time next year Samad Taylor is a top 10 prospect in the system. He will be 20 in Dunedin for most of next season. He's still very young but holding his own.

 

Only if Todd agrees.

[43211234]

Does Bo project to be a legit base stealing threat in the majors?

 

Eh, probably not a big threat but could hit 20 SB over the season.

 

He's 29/38 on attempts this year. 76.3%

 

Good for +2 runs on the wSB component of the Spd statistic according to Fangraphs. Factor in better throwing catches and less free-wheeling by Bo in the majors and I doubt he adds much value with steals.

[King]

Robert Murray‏Verified account @ByRobertMurray 35s36 seconds agoMore

 

 

#BlueJays acquiring RHP Bryan Baker from the #Rockies, source tells The Athletic.

[John_Havok]

Robert Murray‏Verified account @ByRobertMurray 35s36 seconds agoMore

 

 

#BlueJays acquiring RHP Bryan Baker from the #Rockies, source tells The Athletic.

 

Kind of a nothing burger. 23 year old reliever in high A walking 7 per 9.

[43211234]

Robert Murray‏Verified account @ByRobertMurray 35s36 seconds agoMore

 

 

#BlueJays acquiring RHP Bryan Baker from the #Rockies, source tells The Athletic.

JD and Stroman going the other way?

 

But for real, I guess this is the PTBNL for Oh? Or maybe a new deal?

 

 

And this twitter kiddie from a few years ago, Robert Murray, is now writing for The Athletic? And his boy Devan Fink seems to have landed a half-decent gig, too.

[Boxcar]

Calling it now, this time next year Samad Taylor is a top 10 prospect in the system. He will be 20 in Dunedin for most of next season. He's still very young but holding his own.

 

I'll be happy if he's makes the top 100.

[metafour]

Hagen Danner up to .324/.457/.432 with a 15-to-21 BB/K rate. Power hasn't really shown up yet but that was his best tool.

 

So cool having a staff that can identify and actually improve position players.

[Caper]

I have a question about Vlad Jr's value. Is there even 5 players in all of baseball more valuable then him right now? I mean in the off-season what player wouldn't be accepted in a trade offer for Vlad Jr straight up?