Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Orgfiller]

Nevermind the fact hes been meh for the last 5 seasons, 1/2 of a good season, give him the Matt Moore contract.

 

I assume you're talking about SRF, who was drafted in 2014 and is 22 in AAA but yes the 1/2 season of good performance is what people are going off of. Good job bro, it's a good thing you saw him once while he was still hungover from the offseason to give us such insightful info on why he won't succeed.

[Krylian]

Someone just make an SRF bet with tercet already

[John_Havok]

Maybe the Ryan Tepera route? He'll plod his way through the minors to become an effective reliever.

 

As if on queue... fangraphs prospect notes from 6/27

 

 

Angel Perdomo, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays (Profile)

Level: Hi-A Age: 24 Org Rank: NR FV: 35+

Line: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 0 R, 10 K

 

Notes

Twenty-four-year-olds repeating A-ball typically don’t find their way into our consciousness, but lefties that touch 96 must. Perdomo’s command has taken a significant step forward this year as he has nearly halved his walk rate (12.6% down to 7.6%) and is showing especially improved command of his fastball and fringey slider to his glove side. He creates a tough angle in on the hands of righties and sits 90-95 throughout his starts. He’s made enough progress that you can project him as an eventual lefty reliever.

[tercet]

Anyone have any good reviews for this new guy we got for Pearce?

[King]

Anyone have any good reviews for this new guy we got for Pearce?

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fringe-five-baseballs-most-compelling-fringe-prospects-107/

 

Seems like his hit tool is good enough that he might be able to make it as a utility infielder. Probably just org depth or an up and down guy.

[BTS]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

[L54]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

 

Lol at Verdugo over Soto

[jays4life19]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

 

Wow!

 

I like the comments though. "A good amount of xWTF going on here" aha

[L54]

Lmao Franchy Cordero top 10 hitting prospect for fantasy.

 

Wow worst list ever isn’t even an exaggeration

[L54]

The last similar prospect my system picked up so high was Andres Gimenez, also of the Mets. In dynasty formats, I diving in now and wait on the scouting reports. If their bad, I’ll move on quickly to someone else.

 

Jeff Zimmerman is about as white of a name as you can get, and this article reads as if he’s ESL

[Laika]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

 

Well he does give you the very broad strokes about methodology:

 

"based on age, level, position, and production with some regression baked in to handle small samples"

 

It's still just a patently dumb exercise, where the only real interest any reader with half a clue would have in the list would be to just figure out the flaws in the methodology. It's is plain from the rankings that there are flaws. We know that the list is flawed because nobody should take Verdugo over Soto (and there are other relationships where there is just no obvious or apparent argument for the relative rankings).

Edited June 29, 2018 by Laika

[Dr. Dinger]

It's is plain from the rankings that their are flaws.

 

Lul u dumn af

[Laika]

My post was spelled correctly. A mod must have edited in a typo maliciously.

[Dr. Dinger]

Too typos.

[Jimcanuck]

Victor Robles is not on the list (

[Terminator]

[Terminator]

Smith getting some love and a big jump for Gourdes Jr. I wonder what they see in him to justify a #76 ranking?

[King]

Can someone post the full article. Thanks

[BTS]

Really happy to see Ronaldo Hernandez make a top-100 for the first time.

[Terminator]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

 

I don't understand this list at all. How is Verdugo ranked higher than Soto??

[TheHurl]

I'll post the new to the list guys. It's only been a month since their last update. Next month they will include 2018 draftees.

 

71

 

Jonathan Loaisiga

Yankees RHP

Notes:

Fastball: 70. | Curveball: 60. | Changeup: 50. | Control: 50.

Scouting Report: Just two years ago, Loaisiga was out of baseball after being released by the Giants. Signed by the Yankees out of a tryout camp, he then was shut down for Tommy John surgery. He returned in 2017 to dominate the short-season New York-Penn League. Nothing on that resume prepared anyone for Loaisiga’s rocket-boosted rise to the Yankees this year. Despite coming into the season with just 2.1 innings of full-season experience, Loaisiga jumped straight to the high Class A Florida State League, then the Double-A Eastern League and then to the Yankees rotation. His near top-of-the-scale stuff (and the fact he was already on the 40-man roster) allowed him to make such a quick jump. His 94-98 mph fastball is a plus-plus pitch that he locates well. His 12-to-6 hard mid-80s curveball gives him a second plus pitch and he mixes in a sinking, hard 87-88 mph changeup is a useful average offering. Loaisiga has had a lengthy injury history, but if he can stay healthy, he has mid-rotation stuff.

 

84

Will Smith

Dodgers

Notes:

Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Speed: 50 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 55

Scouting Report: The Dodgers have a lengthy history of preferring catchers who combine receiving skills with the athleticism to also handle a spot in the infield. Russ Martin led the way, and Austin Barnes continued down that path. Now Smith has impressed as both a plus defender behind the plate with soft hands and an above-average arm and a capable second and third baseman who earns above-average defensive grades at the hot corner. Smith has retooled his swing as a pro to generate more loft and power. It’s resulted in lower batting average, but his ability to tap into average to above-average productive power makes it a fair trade.

 

85

Gavin Lux

Dodgers SS

Notes:

Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Speed: 60 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 55

Scouting Report: After struggling in the Midwest League, especially early in 2017, Lux worked to continue to fill out and get stronger in his second full pro seasons. That’s paid off in 2018 as he’s shown better power while retaining his ability to make contact and draw walks. Lux looks to be an above-average hitter with above-average power. Lux’s defense at shortstop is still a work in progress, largely because of his struggles with throwing accuracy. He had 17 errors at the season’s midpoint. Lux has played both second base and shortstop this season. Scouts believe he can stick at shortstop, although a team looking for a plus defender at shortstop will slide him to second.

 

86

 

Jose Suarez

Angels LHP

Notes:

Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 50 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 55

Scouting Report: Suarez is undersized and portly but has an advanced feel for pitching, and he keeps throwing harder. Suarez's fastball velocity has steadily ticked up from 88-92 in 2016 to 89-93 mph in 2017 to 90-94 this season, and he excels at busting his fastball in on rigthhanders for an uncomfortable at-bat. His changeup is a swing-and-miss pitch that he sells with identical arm speed, drawing foolish swings over the top. He's developing a curveball as a quality third pitch, landing it to his armside well but still learning to put it on the back foot of righthanded hitters. Suarez works with an exceptionally quick pace, commanding the tempo and keeping hitters on the defensive. With his constantly improving stuff, Suarez's strikeouts have increased from 5.7 batters per nine innings in 2015 to 10.7 in 2016 to 11.8 in 2017 to 12.5 in 2018. Suarez doesn't make many mistakes, having allowed only 10 homers in 251.1 minor league innings. He has above-average pitchability and an easy, repeatable high-three quarters delivery with good direction to the plate, allowing him to maintain his velocity and control. Suarez is thick and will have to watch his conditioning, but his continued upward trend gives him a chance to be a mid-rotation starter.

 

87

 

Logan Allen

Padres LHP

Notes:

Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 50 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50

Scouting Report: At his best, Allen sits 92-94 mph with his fastball and shows off a potential plus changeup and above-average curveball. At other times he's 89-91 mph with just average secondaries. He shows the poise and pitchability to succeed even when his stuff isn't at his best. Allen is aggressive with his fastball and establishes it early in games. He complements it with a “Vulcan” grip changeup he holds between his middle and ring finger that dives as it approaches the plate for a swing-and-miss offering. Allen still is trying to find a consistent release point on his hard, slurvy curveball, but he shows flashes of snapping it off. He's begun showing an average slider he can land for strikes as well. Allen throws all his pitches for strikes but can get wild in the zone. The Padres have smoothed out his delivery, making it less herky-jerky, and his command and pitch efficiency have improved as a result. Allen looks like a mid-rotation starter at his best, but needs to continue to iron out his command and gain consistency of his stuff.

 

90

 

Josh Naylor

Padres 1B

Notes:

Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Speed: 40 | Fielding: 45 | Arm: 55

 

The Marlins made Naylor the highest-drafted Canadian position player ever when they selected him 12th overall in 2015 and signed him for $2.2 million. One year later the Padres acquired him in the five-player trade that sent Andrew Cashner to Miami. Naylor is stocky with a protruding belly, closer to 260 pounds than his listed 225. Because the Padres have signed Eric Hosmer to a long-term deal, they have tried Naylor in left field this year. Most scouts are skeptical that he can handle left field, but he’s a fringe-average first baseman, which is his true position. Like any first baseman, Naylor has to hit and he’s down so. He’s shown the ability to recognize balls out of the pitcher’s hand, waiting to find a pitch he can drive. With bat speed and pitch recognition, Naylor has the ability to be an above-average hitter with plus power.

 

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Kevin Smith

Blue Jays SS

Notes:

Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Speed: 45 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 55

Scouting Report: In three seasons as Maryland’s shortstop, Smith showed excellent defense, bat speed and power potential, but his struggles to make contact meant he never hit for average in college, which explains why he slid to the fourth round in the 2017 draft. Since then, Smith has eliminated a loop in his swing. With a shortened, quicker stroke that helps him better catch up to velocity, Smith has shown both improved contact skills and even better power. At shortstop, Smith stands out for his reliability more than flashy range, but he’s sure-handed and has an above-average arm that should allow him to stay at the position. He has a chance to be an everyday shortstop with above-average to plus power.

 

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Ronaldo Hernandez

Rays C

Notes:

Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Speed: 40 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 70

Scouting Report: A former infielder who played on Colombia's 18U World Cup team as a 15-year-old in 2013, Hernandez signed for $225,000 and moved behind the plate with the Rays. He emerged as a legitimate dual-threat receiver in 2017 at Rookie-level Princeton after battling a groin injury for two years in the Dominican Summer League. This year has just added to the already-lofty expectations that surrounded him coming into the season as he’s proven to be one of the better hitters in the Midwest League. Scouts are surprised to discover Hernandez's limited experience behind the dish based on his ability. He has plus-plus arm strength. Hernandez does a solid job blocking balls in the dirt. Hernandez is on an upward trajectory that has seen him emerge as one of the organization's premier prospects.

 

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Nick Neidert

Marlins RHP

Notes:

Fastball: 50. | Changeup: 60. | Slider: 50. | Control: 60.

Scouting Report: The Mariners' first selection in 2015, Neidert claimed California League pitcher of the year honors in 2017 after going 10-3, 2.76 at high Class A Modesto. The Marlins acquired Neidert, shortstop Chris Torres and righthander Robert Dugger after the 2017 season in the deal that sent Dee Gordon and international bonus pool money to Seattle. Neidert's aggressive approach allows him to excel. He goes right at hitters, has advanced feel for his secondary pitches and shows good poise on the mound. He effectively sequences his three pitches and throws strikes. Neidert's fastball sits 90-93 mph but plays up with carry through the zone due to a late hop in his delivery. Both of his secondary offerings--an average low-80s slider and future plus changeup at 78-81 mph with deception and fade--play up because of how well he commands them. He repeats his high three-quarters delivery, keeping hitters off balance. Neidert has a high aptitude for his craft with the ability to quickly make adjustments. Some observers don't see a true out pitch in Nediert's arsenal, but he succeeds because of his competitive nature and advanced pitchabilty. He projects as a No. 4 starter.

[Terminator]

Hurl can you post Gurriel's blurb if you get a chance? Thanks

[Laika]

Kevin Smith! wow!

 

Nice to see Jose Suarez get recognized too.

[Brownie19]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

 

1. Vlad

3. Bo

16. Jansen

 

I hope to f*** his justification for such crazy rankings is that he's just returned from the future in his hot tub time machine...

[Spanky__99]

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/top-75-fantasy-hitting-prospects-w-potts-change-santana/

 

This might be the worst prospect list I've ever seen. And there's no explanations, because he doesn't say anything about the methodology, or respond to any of the comments.

 

I'm crying at this guy's comment..

 

slappy jack

 

"I agree, seems like a good amount of xWTF going on here"

[Spanky__99]

I linked back on his article last week, and he had this hyper-linked as his methodology.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/2016-prospect-rankings/

[Spanky__99]

Smith getting some love and a big jump for Gourdes Jr. I wonder what they see in him to justify a #76 ranking?

 

Alford fell from 57 to not even on the list.

[burlingtonbandit]

Alford fell from 57 to not even on the list.

 

Health issues plus Strikeout rate is massive while not hitting for much power and you can see why he's dropped so much.

[Spanky__99]

Health issues plus Strikeout rate is massive while not hitting for much power and you can see why he's dropped so much.

 

I understand why, just quite the slip.

[Krylian]

Health issues plus Strikeout rate is massive while not hitting for much power and you can see why he's dropped so much.

 

Health issues didn't kill Nate Pearson.