Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[AledmysDiaz]

The syndergaard trade is so catastrophic to the franchise, that all the other busts pails in comparison.

 

Dont know why AA thought he was going to win the championship with the Roster he had assembled,

[Spanky__99]

[King]

He has Willie Calhoun as an average bat (55 hit, 50 power) with no or negative defensive value. This is not an MLB player at DH. Matt Chapman is regarded as an elite defensive 3B with big time power yet he only gets an honourable mention.

Epic Fail from fangraphs here. So many prospect websites missed on Chapman even though his talent was slapping everyone in the face. 4 fWAR in 488 PA

[G-Snarls]

I think you guys are missing the boat here. None of those players are stars but 1-2 win players on cheap contracts are assets. Probably could have helped knowing how god awful Anthopoulous was at filling out the backend of rosters.

 

I some cases yes

 

But I'd still rather be paying Russel Martin 15M than have D'Arnaud at league min and needing two other guys to back him up

[King]

I some cases yes

 

But I'd still rather be paying Russel Martin 15M than have D'Arnaud at league min and needing two other guys to back him up

Or you know, we could have split Martin and D'Arnaud time to take the workload off both of them. Yes I realize we probably don't sign Martin with d'Arnaud

 

Guys like Luke Maile, Salty, Miguel Montero, Navarro, Josh Thole combined for tons of negative fWAR between the past 3 or 4 seasons

[AledmysDiaz]

Biggio with another bomb

[TheHurl]

I think you guys are missing the boat here. None of those players are stars but 1-2 win players on cheap contracts are assets. Probably could have helped knowing how god awful Anthopoulous was at filling out the backend of rosters.

 

And the knowledge that he chose JPA as the catcher. And fought to keep Sanchez out of the deal but moved Thor

 

It's a such a poor narrative that no one he traded did anything. Only Thor became a star. In total Donaldson provided so much excess value that it makes up for the rest (and Reyes, Happ also put up some positive value)

 

Musgrove 1.9 fWAR still hasn't hit arbitration

Disco 5.1 fWAR but lost to injury now.

Hendo Alvarez 4.1 fWAR trying to make a comeback from injury now.

Marisnick 3.7 fWAR first year of arbitration

Yunel 8.1 fWAR and $63M in excess value

[Thaddeus Malice]

 

Musgrove 1.9 fWAR still hasn't hit arbitration

Disco 5.1 fWAR but lost to injury now.

Hendo Alvarez 4.1 fWAR trying to make a comeback from injury now.

Marisnick 3.7 fWAR first year of arbitration

Yunel 8.1 fWAR and $63M in excess value

 

There was definitely some value that wound up going the other way in those deals although it's interesting that out of all those guys, besides Syndergaard, Yunel provided the most value. Most of the other guys providing value are back end pitchers.

 

I think Henderson Alvarez' career as an MLB pitcher is likely over. It's been three years, which is a pity because I liked him a lot.

 

Also I just looked Marisnick's stats this year. He has somehow managed to strike out in 47% of his AB's.

[Krylian]

Bo's pretty struggling pretty hard this month.

 

Will be interesting to see how he adjusts/responds.

[Jimcanuck]

4\5 with 3 HR for Austin Riley today in AAA. Just promoted to AAA last week. 21 yrs old.

 

Braves / Spooge / Jets 3B of the future (like, next month)

[AledmysDiaz]

Bo's pretty struggling pretty hard this month.

 

Will be interesting to see how he adjusts/responds.

 

Bc he is human. Vlad is not human so he doesn't have slumps.

[Spanky__99]

4\5 with 3 HR for Austin Riley today in AAA. Just promoted to AAA last week. 21 yrs old.

 

Braves / Spooge / Jets 3B of the future (like, next month)

 

MLB's a different animal, hence every prospect ever.

[Maahfaace]

MLB's a different animal, hence every prospect ever.

 

Wasn't Riley a pitcher when he was drafted though? He's doing pretty awesome considering.

 

I love the braves farm system, although AA will probably decimate it in the near future.

[John_Havok]

Wasn't Riley a pitcher when he was drafted though? He's doing pretty awesome considering.

 

I love the braves farm system, although AA will probably decimate it in the near future.

 

Maybe, but there's also the possibility he learned something from the debacle he put the Jays in and won't repeat it

[Dr. Dinger]

Wow, Juan Soto batting .143 in AA. What a f***ing bust!

[Krylian]

Wow, Juan Soto batting .143 in AA. What a f***ing bust!

 

Does that mean we'll start hear less about him in the various threads?

[Dr. Dinger]

I was scrolling through Fangraphs leaderboards to see if I could find the last teenager before Vlad who combined a sub-10% K rate with a .200+ ISO in AA, but I gave up and I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened in decades, if ever.

[Laika]

I was scrolling through Fangraphs leaderboards to see if I could find the last teenager before Vlad who combined a sub-10% K rate with a .200+ ISO in AA, but I gave up and I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened in decades, if ever.

 

Jason Heyward did it on his way through 3 levels in 2009

Jesus Montero was damn close in the same year (11.6% K)

 

You might as well say OT (RIP) did it in 2012 - full season, 10.5% w a .252 ISO

 

Not exactly the best company. Mental midget, bust, dead.

[AledmysDiaz]

Can we get excited yet for Biggio or not?

[Krylian]

Can we get excited yet for Biggio or not?

 

Excited? Not yet. But he's worth taking note of. There may be more there than some initially thought.

[Dr. Dinger]

- Old for level - CHECK!

- Strikes out too much - CHECK!

- Tweener defensive profile - CHECK!

- Zero prospect pedigree - CHECK!

 

Yep, get excited.

[Brownie19]

Wasn't Riley a pitcher when he was drafted though? He's doing pretty awesome considering.

 

I love the braves farm system, although AA will probably decimate it in the near future.

 

I hate this narrative. AA built - and then decimate the farm...there's no doubt. We really have no good understanding as to why he did that. It may have been his decision to do it to make a push before Jose and EE declined. He may have been told he's to "go for it" by Beeston or he'd lose his job.

 

Either way, it's not he's got some Dusty Baker track record behind him. There's nothing to suggest "he's probably going to decimate their farm system in the future".

[Brownie19]

Jason Heyward did it on his way through 3 levels in 2009

Jesus Montero was damn close in the same year (11.6% K)

 

You might as well say OT (RIP) did it in 2012 - full season, 10.5% w a .252 ISO

 

Not exactly the best company. Mental midget, bust, dead.

 

[Brownie19]

4\5 with 3 HR for Austin Riley today in AAA. Just promoted to AAA last week. 21 yrs old.

 

Braves / Spooge / Jets 3B of the future (like, next month)

 

That K/BB ratio has to be a concern...

[L54]

4\5 with 3 HR for Austin Riley today in AAA. Just promoted to AAA last week. 21 yrs old.

 

Braves / Spooge / Jets 3B of the future (like, next month)

 

Shrewd pick up Jim

[Mac Outlaw]

I hate this narrative. AA built - and then decimate the farm...there's no doubt. We really have no good understanding as to why he did that. It may have been his decision to do it to make a push before Jose and EE declined. He may have been told he's to "go for it" by Beeston or he'd lose his job.

 

Either way, it's not he's got some Dusty Baker track record behind him. There's nothing to suggest "he's probably going to decimate their farm system in the future".

 

I think when he added Price and Tulo in 2015 it was simply because he thought that team could win the World Series that year. And he wasn't wrong. That team was beastly, the best we've put on the field since 93. It came down to our 1-2 hitters not getting it done in the top of the 9th in Game 6. Should have scored and didn't.

 

The start of this was the Marlins deal and who knows why that happened when it did. Has he ever explained the timing?

[Ray]

Vlad Jr. and Bichette break down their AB's: https://www.mlb.com/video/breakdown-with-bichette-vlad-jr/c-2042641983?tid=26271672

[GreekFatAss]

- Old for level - CHECK!

- Strikes out too much - CHECK!

- Tweener defensive profile - CHECK!

- Zero prospect pedigree - CHECK!

 

Yep, get excited.

 

Don't forget no projectable tools.

[Orgfiller]

- Old for level - CHECK!

- Strikes out too much - CHECK!

- Tweener defensive profile - CHECK!

- Zero prospect pedigree - CHECK!

 

Yep, get excited.

 

Only the first two of those things are relevant. We have no idea how good (or how bad) his defense is, going off of dumn scouts who've seen him twice and basing their opinion on maybe three fielded balls tells us nothing. Prospect pedigree is stupid, where was Freddy Peralta's prospect pedigree? Rhys Hoskins'?

[Laika]

He also has a prospect pedigree. He was ranked in the top ~160 by people before the draft and got a $300k bonus...

 

23 isn’t that old for starting a year in AA

 

Who cares about a 25% k rare in 2018...

 

Yawn