Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[John_Havok]

I could be wrong but I don't see a real good swing plane there. He gives me Lawrie vibes with that little wrist hitch thing.

 

Can you link me some video of his swings so far this year? I didn't see much of ST and i'd like to take a look and see what you're referring to.

[P2F]

I understand to a point, and yes it would be nice if a few of those singles were doubles or a triple or a homer. But stating that there's no pop in the bat based on 15 PAs is just gruber-esque.

Agreed. I think there's at least average in-game power in his bat.

[John_Havok]

It's from the AFL.

 

Looks a bit long, probably needs to quiet his hands down a bit to be a little more direct to the ball. It's fixable

[Brownie19]

He should work with JD. Very similar swings

[THANOS]

He should work with JD. Very similar swings

 

I noticed that to. There's actually a video on, Sportsnet I think, of JD teaching Alford his swing, so I think we're correct to notice that similarity.

[Brownie19]

29.4 BB% 5.9 K% 289 wRC+

 

That's a sexy start to full season baseball. Wow. Boner.

[Krylian]

JB Woodman. 17 AB's. 9 K's. Sweet.

[metafour]

SRF didn't make it out of the second inning again today after giving up a 3-run HR.

 

Bo Bichette on the other hand is back at it again: 1-2 with another double.

[metafour]

JB Woodman. 17 AB's. 9 K's. Sweet.

 

Its absolutely perplexing that they would reach for a college hitter with obvious contact issues. At least when you go that route on a HS bat you are hoping that three years down the road the kid makes improvements. Just a stupid, stupid pick.

[Brownie19]

Its absolutely perplexing that they would reach for a college hitter with obvious contact issues. At least when you go that route on a HS bat you are hoping that three years down the road the kid makes improvements. Just a stupid, stupid pick.

 

Stat scouting - I have to agree. A college guy striking out that much in the lower minors without major power? piss off.

[King]

Stat scouting - I have to agree. A college guy striking out that much in the lower minors without major power? piss off.

Stat scouting his college stats would show you that he struckout at a 17% rate in his draft year with big time power (.254 ISO). You'd be looking for your area scouts to identify that he has a massive hole in his swing or that contact issues would pop in pro ball.

 

I don't love Woodman, but I'm not jumping off the ledge at his slow start. He had a 215 wRC+ in Lansing in double the amount of PAs he has this year at the end of last season.

[THANOS]

SRF didn't make it out of the second inning again today after giving up a 3-run HR.

 

Bo Bichette on the other hand is back at it again: 1-2 with another double.

 

Hmm. That's a little alarming with SRF, but, mistakes happen. Did they report on his stuff?

[metafour]

Stat scouting his college stats would show you that he struckout at a 17% rate in his draft year with big time power (.254 ISO). You'd be looking for your area scouts to identify that he has a massive hole in his swing or that contact issues would pop in pro ball.

 

I don't love Woodman, but I'm not jumping off the ledge at his slow start. He had a 215 wRC+ in Lansing in double the amount of PAs he has this year at the end of last season.

 

Woodman's contact issues were known well before the draft (With Keith Law famously grading his hit tool at 20 or something ridiculous like that). Since then he's posted K-rates of ~33% last year and now 11 strikeouts in 20 at bats to start this season.

 

The likelihood of a 22 year old hitter in A-ball rectifying those strikeout rates is unprecedented. That s*** only flies if the guy is Adam Dunn in the BB and HR department; and Woodman ain't that. You can basically write him off already as a prospect.

[Brownie19]

Stat scouting his college stats would show you that he struckout at a 17% rate in his draft year with big time power (.254 ISO). You'd be looking for your area scouts to identify that he has a massive hole in his swing or that contact issues would pop in pro ball.

 

I don't love Woodman, but I'm not jumping off the ledge at his slow start. He had a 215 wRC+ in Lansing in double the amount of PAs he has this year at the end of last season.

 

You're assuming I look at college stats King. That's a poor assumption

[metafour]

Woodman also showed brutal strikeout rates in the Cape Cod league.

[King]

Woodman's contact issues were known well before the draft (With Keith Law famously grading his hit tool at 20 or something ridiculous like that). Since then he's posted K-rates of ~33% last year and now 11 strikeouts in 20 at bats to start this season.

 

The likelihood of a 22 year old hitter in A-ball rectifying those strikeout rates is unprecedented. That s*** only flies if the guy is Adam Dunn in the BB and HR department; and Woodman ain't that. You can basically write him off already as a prospect.

 

I know his contact issues were known pre-draft but we were talking about stat scouting (in which case, you could have identified there was a contact issue by his CapeCod stats). I agree with you that his contact issues will likely prevent him from ever becoming anything more than a prospect that could reach the upper levels of the minors.

[metafour]

Vlad Jr. and Bo vs. Brady Aiken tonight

[Brownie19]

From Rotoworld - NSFW

 

 

Blue Jays 3B prospect Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. went 2-for-6 with a homer on Wednesday for Low-A Lansing.

 

It's the second homer of the year for the son of future HOF Vladimir Guerrero. Simply put, Guerrero is too advanced with the bat to be at the lowest full-season level right now. He's crushing Midwest League pitching, and he's showing something his dad never did: plate discipline. You won't see him in the MLB for a couple of years, but his upside is higher than any corner infielder in baseball. You should already have him on your deep dynasty league roster.

[Atothe]

From Rotoworld - NSFW

 

 

Blue Jays 3B prospect Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. went 2-for-6 with a homer on Wednesday for Low-A Lansing.

 

It's the second homer of the year for the son of future HOF Vladimir Guerrero. Simply put, Guerrero is too advanced with the bat to be at the lowest full-season level right now. He's crushing Midwest League pitching, and he's showing something his dad never did: plate discipline. You won't see him in the MLB for a couple of years, but his upside is higher than any corner infielder in baseball. You should already have him on your deep dynasty league roster.

 

Lol already talks about moving him to another level

[John_Havok]

Lol already talks about moving him to another level

 

To be fair, it's kind of the fantasy websites job to hype the s*** out of players. 20 PA is nothing to judge a promotion on

[metafour]

Anyone else think that Bichette could be even better than Vlad? Yeah he's not going to match his power production, but he looks like an equally frightening hitter with more athleticism and much more defensive value given that he's a SS who could move to 3B or 2B versus a 3B who could move to 1B or the OF....

[Angrioter]

Anyone else think that Bichette could be even better than Vlad? Yeah he's not going to match his power production, but he looks like an equally frightening hitter with more athleticism and much more defensive value given that he's a SS who could move to 3B or 2B versus a 3B who could move to 1B or the OF....

 

Just No

[John_Havok]

Anyone else think that Bichette could be even better than Vlad? Yeah he's not going to match his power production, but he looks like an equally frightening hitter with more athleticism and much more defensive value given that he's a SS who could move to 3B or 2B versus a 3B who could move to 1B or the OF....

 

It's too early to say. it's still a crapshoot to see if Bichette's weirdo swing can translate to the upper minors. Chances are it won't be messed with as long as it's working though.

 

The consensus right now seems to be that Vlad is a pure beast hitter who might end up at 1b or the OF. The bat is not in question at all.

 

Bichette still has a few unknowns with the bat but probably ends up at 2b or the LF. He also has a thick lower half and won't stick at SS long term imo.

[43211234]

Brady Aiken with 7 walks and only 1 K against Lansing tonight.

 

Bust!

[King]

Anyone else think that Bichette could be even better than Vlad? Yeah he's not going to match his power production, but he looks like an equally frightening hitter with more athleticism and much more defensive value given that he's a SS who could move to 3B or 2B versus a 3B who could move to 1B or the OF....

Its possible if Bichette turns out to be an above average defender and an above average hitter.

[metafour]

Just No

 

Why not? I see plus contact, plus power, plus bat-speed with Bichette...and he's taking walks. After today's game he's now hitting a career .424 spanning back to last year's decimation of the GCL. He easily has a better defensive profile than Vlad regardless of whether or not he sticks at SS. To me this teeters on how big a deal you want to place on his "weird swing", but even that seems like a stretch at this point given his ability to make hard contact in combination with his bat speed.

[burlingtonbandit]

It's too early to say. it's still a crapshoot to see if Bichette's weirdo swing can translate to the upper minors. Chances are it won't be messed with as long as it's working though.

 

The consensus right now seems to be that Vlad is a pure beast hitter who might end up at 1b or the OF. The bat is not in question at all.

 

Bichette still has a few unknowns with the bat but probably ends up at 2b or the LF. He also has a thick lower half and won't stick at SS long term imo.

 

What would a thick lower half have to do with not sticking at SS?

[Pendleton]

What would a thick lower half have to do with not sticking at SS?

 

A lot of those stockier type SS get labelled as future 2B or corner guys. I guess the fear is that there will be range issues as they continue to add strength.

 

I can't say I've seen much about Bichette's defense or perceived future position since he was drafted, the bat has rightfully grabbed all the attention. Would definitely be nice if he can stay up the middle.

[metafour]

I can't say I've seen much about Bichette's defense or perceived future position since he was drafted, the bat has rightfully grabbed all the attention. Would definitely be nice if he can stay up the middle.

 

No one really believes he sticks at SS, but I haven't seen anyone claim that he can't play 2B or 3B. His bat obviously profiles at either position. There's a lot of (warranted) talk about Vlad's upside, but I really think it may be overshadowing the fact that we could be seeing a Chase Utley type talent here in Bichette.

[Boxcar]

What would a thick lower half have to do with not sticking at SS?

 

It's one of those "he'll have to move off the position" nitpicks that never come to fruition unless you have a situation like when Bregman was promoted but Correa was entrenched at SS.