Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[jays4life19]

Well that confirms that Todd is not John Manuel.

[Grant77]

We may not have the big name prospects of other teams, but I can count on one hand the number of teams that have better than Bichette and Harris in their 8 and 9 slots. That's impressive depth.

[WONDERBAT]

Anthony Alford going to be our Dexter Fowler.

[Krylian]

Alford at #2.

 

Todd just exploded.

[Spanky__99]

Anthony Alford going to be our Dexter Fowler.

 

That would be phenomenal?!?!?! I like it... dream big!

[L54]

Okay I think that's enough from todd. Can we get a ban please?

[Jimcanuck]

Okay I think that's enough from todd. Can we get a ban please?

 

IL works best. Todd doesn't know who has him on IL. If he gets banned he's back with a new name. How does banning help, really. IL, mate.

[Krylian]

Well I can tell you by this time next year Anthony Alford will

not be the blue jays so called #2 prospect.

And with the blue jays new management he will not even be

in there top 20.

Some inside inform I gave gotten from one of the blue jays

scouts.

If he is not at triple A hitting over 300. with 15 or more home runs

and 30 stolen base and 80-90 rbi's he will be a after thought.

Which will prove me right and all of you wrong.

 

King has Alford as a Top 5 Jays prospect.

 

You said King knows more than you.

 

We agree with King.

 

You are wrong. Not us.

[Jimcanuck]

You can ban me all you want.

But come the end of next year you

will see that you all don't know s*** about

baseball or the blue jays.

The blue jays top brass are not to happy with

him. And want there own players up they.

That's usually how new management wants thing.

As for L54 and Jimcanuck suck the big one you bunch of asses.

 

I don't mind stupid. But stupid and impolite together, that's over the line.

[Spanky__99]

I don't mind stupid. But stupid and impolite together, that's over the line.

 

IL, mate... lol. You literally just said this minutes ago?

[jaysblue]

Guys leave todd alone please. He means no harm.

[Jimcanuck]

IL, mate... lol. You literally just said this minutes ago?

 

Done, although sorry I will miss the trainwreck.

[King]

Well I can tell you by this time next year Anthony Alford will

not be the blue jays so called #2 prospect.

And with the blue jays new management he will not even be

in there top 20.

Some inside inform I gave gotten from one of the blue jays

scouts.

If he is not at triple A hitting over 300. with 15 or more home runs

and 30 stolen base and 80-90 rbi's he will be a after thought.

Which will prove me right and all of you wrong.

 

Those are extremely unrealistic expectations for a 22 year old who hasn't had an at bat above High A.

 

Last year there was not a single player who hit .300+, 15+HRs, 80-90 RBIs, 30+ SB in the International League. The only player of age who really came close was Byron Buxton, also 22, but also was a former #1 prospect in the entire MLB. And he only had 7 stolen bases.

 

The only players since 2012 to come close were 25 year old Steven Souza and 25 year old Kevin Pillar back in 2014.

[Sammy225]

Those are extremely unrealistic expectations for a 22 year old who hasn't had an at bat above High A.

 

Last year there was not a single player who hit .300+, 15+HRs, 80-90 RBIs, 30+ SB in the International League. The only player of age who really came close was Byron Buxton, also 22, but also was a former #1 prospect in the entire MLB.

 

The only players since 2012 to come close were 25 year old Steven Souza and 25 year old Kevin Pillar back in 2014.

 

So your confirming that Todd is full of s***

[King]

So your confirming that Todd is full of s***

I'm not confirming anything, just that those expectations are beyond unrealistic. He would be a Mike Trout ceiling demi-god level prospect if he hit for those numbers in AAA next season.

[Spanky__99]

Done, although sorry I will miss the trainwreck.

 

It was a trainwreck from the start, all I see is the quotes, pretty lame.

[Orgfiller]

I mean, if your supposedly top 5 prospect isn't producing >50 RBI, are they even worth keeping as org depth?

[Spanky__99]

I mean, if your supposedly top 5 prospect isn't producing >50 RBI, are they even worth keeping as org depth?

 

Chuck em on the heap!

[Grant77]

I mean, if your supposedly top 5 prospect isn't producing >50 RBI, are they even worth keeping as org depth?

 

Only if they have a good ZARP.

[Spanky__99]

Only if they have a good ZARP.

 

[Grant77]

 

It's just a joke, you must have missed the thread.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/zarp_leagues.shtml

[Spanky__99]

It's just a joke, you must have missed the thread.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/zarp_leagues.shtml

 

Oh God... yeah, I remember that, nonsense.

[Mikeleelop]

Frank (Indianapolis IN): How many of these guys are likely to make the BA 100?

 

John Manuel: Fine place to start, Frank. I'm bullish on the Jays system; I could see at least 6 Jays in the Top 100, down to Rowdy Tellez, and could see Bo Bichette and/or TJ Zeuch in as well. Bo had a loud debut; in some early iterations of this list, I almost had him as high as No. 4 in some iterations of this list. Eventually I tempered my enthusiasm. But I could see him & Zeuch being Top 100 as well. I really like this system's top 10.

[Mikeleelop]

(Detroit): A little surprised to not see Bichette higher after his debut. How close was he to passing Zeuch?

 

John Manuel: Very close, but the position questions, plus the fact that I think highly of Zeuch, made me switch those guys at the last minute. Let's face it; Bichette went 66th overall in the draft. If you re-drafted right now he'd probably go 20-30 spots higher, but still behind Zeuch. It's a great sign for the Jays that they have a very legit top 10; I think the system's top half is quite robust, and it's a top 10 farm system for me. The only top 10 guy who didn't have a strong performance year in 2016 is Conner Greene; Alford did well considering his injuries and is tearing up the AFL so far. But all 10 of these guys, for me, are typical top 10 type guys. None of these guys are forced in or require a ton of projection.

[dineke]

He thinks we have a top 10 farm again. Nice

[Mikeleelop]

Not sure if this was posted but here is the BA top 10

 

TOP 10 PROSPECTS

1. Vladimir Guerrero Jr., 3b

2. Anthony Alford, of

3. Sean Reid-Foley, rhp

4. Conner Greene, rhp

5. Richard Urena, ss

6. Rowdy Tellez, 1b

7. T.J. Zeuch, rhp

8. Bo Bichette, ss

9. Jon Harris, rhp

10. Justin Maese, rhp

 

Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-toronto-blue-jays-top-10-prospects/#rdUacSIe4TIcooJ8.99

[Mikeleelop]

Matt Veasey (Philadelphia, PA): Rowdy Tellez: good enough hitter to eventually be a legit middle order 1B/DH threat for a contender? Top 100 prospect? What do you see in the future in the bigs?

 

John Manuel: I like Rowdy, a lot. For me, he's in the same discussion with the other top 1Bs in the minors. That discussion starts with Cody Bellinger of the Dodgers for me, then it's a question of who's next? Dom Smith of the Mets, Jake Bauers and Casey Gillaspie of the Rays, Chris Shaw of the Giants, Bobby Bradley of the Indians ... he's right in the mix with that group. I'm a believer in the bat, he controls the K zone, he doesn't strike out excessively, he holds his own against LHPs; I see a lot to like. His athleticism and defense are fringy but he's worked hard to get in better shape and has improved in both areas. The arrows are all pointed up with Rowdy Tellez. I like him a lot.

[Mikeleelop]

John (Atlanta): Where do you see Alford starting in 2017. What's his ceiling ? Thanks .

 

John Manuel: I would imagine Alford will start in Double-A. He's got to stay healthy but he's running well in the AFL according to our reports and making up for some lost time. He didn't lose much luster with me in terms of prospect status; he could have been No. 1. I just think that highly of Vlad Jr. Alford's ceiling remains a potential all-star, 60 ceiling type of guy with power, speed and solid defense in CF who could be plus on a corner if Dalton Pompey re-emerges in CF.

[Mikeleelop]

Don (Rosemont, IL): What's the latest on Max Pentecost's arm? Is he going to resume catching next year or is his long-term future as a DH?

 

John Manuel: He's had multiple shoulder injuries and had an elbow issue out of high school. I don't think it's reasonable to look for him to catch. He can hit; I see 1B or LF in his future. He's athletic enough to give LF a chance, and I like the bat.

[Mikeleelop]

arnold (hays): How far has Dalton Pompey's stock fallen?

 

John Manuel: He's just not prospect-eligible anymore. He lost eligibility last year, after the 2015 season. I know the organization likes the progress he's made because I asked about him, forgetting that he was no longer eligible . . . He would have made the Top 10. Would have been a tough call on him vs. Tellez vs. Zeuch. He would have gone 6, 7 or 8. I still think he could be their long-term CF option.