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I think people tend to overrate pitchers numbers in the low minors. Pitchers can be working on mechanical adjustments or certain aspects of their game and the numbers can look really bad. Norris I think was the same way that he struggled to begin his career because they completely changed his delivery. Then all of a sudden he started putting up ridiculous numbers.
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Thanks for the reply guys. I agree with everything except for the "Harris was awful" post. Just was wondering why the importance of K's but it makes sense now. Ofcourse I still feel K% is overrated but it certainly helps. I agree the BB and K ratio is very crucial

I believe Harris was good aside from his 1st start, and his K's last 2 games are a great development so hopefully he continues taking steps. Ofcourse doesn't mean we should expect double digit strike out numbers every start but hopefully he is now starting to develop that aspect and strikeouts become consistent.

Our first rounders in Max and Harris dont look too bad now, eh😉

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Pompey would be there if you consider him a prospect still.

 

Yeah hed be #1. Hes not rookie eligible anymore though I dont think.

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SSS but Alford has a 124 wRC+ in his last 8 games.

 

Still an ugly 2BB-8 SO and only 2 extra base hits.

 

Did he have a torn ligament in the knee? Seems his injury has been a huge elephant in the room that they are calling a vague "knee injury" and not saying exactly what it is.

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Alford

Urena

Rios

Harris

Reid-Foley

Guerreo

Pentecost

Tellez

Greene

Perdomo

?

 

Do you happen to know where Guerrero is playing this season thus far, and how he's doing?

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Any reports on Harris's velocity?

 

Jonathan Harris

Born: 10/16/1993 (Age: 22)

Bats: Right Throws: Right

Height: 6' 4" Weight: 175

 

Mechanics

Clean downhill release, firm delivery, aggressive demeanor; comes from a three-quarters slot

Evaluator Grant Jones

Report Date 05/18/2016

Affiliate Lansing Lugnuts (Low A, Blue Jays)

Dates Seen May 18th 2016

OFP 60

Realistic Mid rotation starter +

 

Pitch Type Present Grade Future Grade Sitting Velocity Peak Velocity Report

FB 55 60 93-94 95 Four seam will sit at 94, not often going below 93, Command of the pitch is above average.

CB 50 60 80-82 12-6 break, hard vertical drop, big swing miss pitch, can break it across planes

SL 45 50 87 Sharp break, complements fastball well and stays in the zone until last minute break takes it out

CH 35 45 86-88 Fade on the pitch

 

Overall

Fastball and curveball will both be future plus pitches, velocity on the fastball is undeniable and the hammer 12-6 will carry him far. Great feel for the slider that compliments his fastball perfectly. If he can turn his change up into a major league average pitch than he will be well on his way to be a number two starter, but will slot into the middle of a rotation even if it sits fringe. Uses his hight to an advantage on the mound throwing downhill.

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Do you happen to know where Guerrero is playing this season thus far, and how he's doing?

 

Last I saw, he was in extended spring training until rookie ball

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Jonathan Harris

Born: 10/16/1993 (Age: 22)

Bats: Right Throws: Right

Height: 6' 4" Weight: 175

 

 

A stringbean, needs to get on the Stroman - Sanchez regimen.

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Cody Reed (D-Backs) had another 8 Ks and 0 BBs in 7 IP today. 47 Ks and 3 BBs now in 32.1 IP. WTF?!

 

Proud owner in LOD

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Do you happen to know where Guerrero is playing this season thus far, and how he's doing?

 

I watched him a few times in extended spring and talked to one of the Jay's brass and they're not sure..he may be in rookie ball in Florida or possibly short season Bluefield. He's got a decent eye at the plate and the ball flies off his bat.

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Thanks for that! His curveball looks really good

 

I could have sworn Justin Atkinson was a shortstop...

 

Hah, yup, SS, then 3b, now a catcher. Interesting transition.

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I could have sworn Justin Atkinson was a shortstop...

 

Hah, yup, SS, then 3b, now a catcher. Interesting transition.

 

Haha I thought the same. It's not too often you see a player transition to Catcher...

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Haha I thought the same. It's not too often you see a player transition to Catcher...

 

It happens more than you think, with really athletic guys who struggle defensively, but have a strong arm. Also if the bat is weak for the position it can also cause an org to try a switch.

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It happens more than you think, with really athletic guys who struggle defensively, but have a strong arm. Also if the bat is weak for the position it can also cause an org to try a switch.

 

Derrick Chung converted from infielder to catcher a few seasons ago.

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A former teammate of mine converted from SS to C in the Dodgers org.
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http://clutchlings.blogspot.ca/2016/05/another-look-at-jon-harris.html

 

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The incredible long weekend weather here in Southern Ontario helped to put what was a crummy April (from a couple of perspectives, personally) firmly in the rear view mirror. 7 weeks ago, Lansing's Jon Harris made an abbreviated full season debut under Arctic conditions in Midland, MI, against the Great Lakes Loons.

 

What a difference nearly two months makes. We're wearing shorts, riding bikes, and thinking about dipping our toes into Georgian Bay, and since that two-thirds of an inning stint, Harris hasn't given up a run - a stretch of 32 innings - covering six starts. In his last start, he threw a career-high 7 innings and 11Ks against Fort Wayne. On Victoria Day, he may have topped that effort with another 7 shutout innings, and another 11 strikeouts in a return visit to the Loons' nest.

 

Harris was just filthy and nasty in this outing - here are every one of those 11 Ks:

 

 

 

In facing Great Lakes, Harris was going up against a team with the lowest (.209) batting average in all of minor league baseball - the Lugs are the third worst hitting team in the minors, but were a game over .500 heading into the contest, thanks to their pitching. Loons hitters were simply overmatched against Harris.

 

This was a "school day" game, with a 10:30 start, and hundreds of screaming kids in the stands. Players, understandably, are sometimes less than thrilled with the noise, early start, and the high morning sun.

 

After not getting out of the first inning as a result of hitting his pitch limit in his last visit to Midland, Harris needed only 14 to retire the side in the first this time, striking out the 2nd hitter on a 96 mph fastball. He was even more economical in the 8-pitch 2nd, despite giving up a loud leadoff double off the left field wall on the first pitch.

 

Harris gave up a single in the third, and struck out a pair. He was using his fastball command to get ahead of hitters, and then either using his sharp slider or an elevated fastball to put the hitter away. Harris' fastball tails away from right-handed hitters, and when he got ahead two strikes on a hitter, he was completely in control.

 

Harris needed only 6 pitches to retire the side in the 5th, and began mixing in curves and changes in the 6th, his longest inning of the day at 21 pitches. By the 7th, as his pitch count began to close in on 80, he began to fatigue, and Great Lakes hitters began to make more frequent contact. He gave up a one-out double that CF Lane Thomas may have lost in the early afternoon sun, but then retired the next two hitters on two pitches to complete his day, and extended his scoreless innings streak. One of the truest test of a pitcher is how he handles himself when his stuff is either off or fading, and Harris passed it with flying colours.

 

For the day, Harris gave up only 3 hits and walked one through 7 innings. He threw 84 pitches, 58 for strikes. Harris recorded 5 outs via the ground ball, and 3 by fly balls. He had 13 swinging strikes.

 

Harris was in complete command of the Great Lakes hitters, and C Justin Atkinson showed some decent framing skills behind the plate. When Atkinson set up on the outside corner on right-handed hitters, they had no chance. Harris blew hitters away with his fastball, mesmerized them with his slider, and kept them honest with his curve and change. There's really little left for him to prove at this level, and you have to think the only thing keeping the organization from moving him up to Dunedin is the two starts he missed when he returned home to Missouri for a funeral.

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