Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 The combined number of Jays wins and opponent losses need to clinch finishing ahead of them in the standings: Cleveland - 10 LA - 11 Minnesota - 13 Texas - 14 Houston - 15 NY - 17 KC* - 22 * Jays only need to tie KC to claim #1 seed since they own the tiebreaker. Go Jays! Even though it's pretty much a foregone conclusion, it'll still be pretty sweet to finally see "x-Toronto" in the standings after two decades. Minnesota is currently the team to beat.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I don't understand where you pulled these numbers from, or what exactly they are supposed to mean.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 A win for the jays or a loss for the other team takes it down 1. So if NY lose and Toronto win the NY number decreases by 2 It's about mathematical elimination
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 I don't understand where you pulled these numbers from, or what exactly they are supposed to mean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(sports) For instance the magic number against Cleveland is 10 until it's mathematically impossible for them to catch the Jays in the standings. They have 71 losses. If the Jays don't win another game they'd finish 82-80. If Cleveland loses 10 the best possible record they can have is 81-81. Similarly if the Jays won 5 more games the worst they can do is 87-75. If Cleveland loses 5 more the best they can do is 86-76. 5+5=10=magic number Pretty sad that anyone under 30 would have no familiarity with this term in the Toronto sports world. When I was a kid in the early 90's, the magic number was our version of BABIP or FIP. It ALWAYS came up every year starting in early September
nonamejays Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Here's a table format with everyone's #'s against everyone http://i.imgur.com/7VAXV2t.png I was going to post this thread yesterday but was busy oddly enough. The line is the separation between playoffs and no playoffs.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Still don't understand this nonsense
Chappy Community Moderator Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Still don't understand this nonsense It's not that complicated.
Baseball Player Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Still don't understand this nonsense "Magic Number" has been around since I can remember my whole life, started watching in 91'. They used to post it on the front page of sports section everyday around clinching time.
nonamejays Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 It is the combined number of wins and losses necessary to eliminate a team. For example if the Jays finish up the season 9-10, they would need the Yankees to lose 8 games in their last 20 to clinch the division.
Maahfaace Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Still don't understand this nonsense wow
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Still don't understand this nonsense Cancel your account and leave the internet.
BlueJays Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 wow That's normal. The Jays haven't been in the playoffs. It's no wonder he had no idea about it.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 That's normal. The Jays haven't been in the playoffs. It's no wonder he had no idea about it. I've never been in a threesome but I still know all about it.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I'm too dumb to understand this all
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah i've never seen this "magic number" stuff in my life. I personally don't really see the point of it. Win as many games as possible, that's the bottom line.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah i've never seen this "magic number" stuff in my life. I personally don't really see the point of it. Win as many games as possible, that's the bottom line. http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/a_0.gif
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah i've never seen this "magic number" stuff in my life. I personally don't really see the point of it. Win as many games as possible, that's the bottom line. Dunno what to say man....you've been deprived of winning sports teams your whole life I guess. The magic number has always been huge in sports, especially in the MLB because of the difficulty of making the playoffs and the amount of games there is to be played. The Blue Jays' playoff spot has been solidified for a couple of weeks now, but not one player is celebrating. When/if that magic number against the Yankees hits 0 and the Jays' clinch the division, then you will see stuff like this:
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah i've never seen this "magic number" stuff in my life. I personally don't really see the point of it. Win as many games as possible, that's the bottom line. It's a countdown. Like New Years....a shuttle launch... When you're gonna frost your girlfriends face... It's a good thing.
Mikeleelop Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah i've never seen this "magic number" stuff in my life. I personally don't really see the point of it. Win as many games as possible, that's the bottom line. ugh.....
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 This one too. We need the Orioles thread back so we can open up this old wound for them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K45FDlsIIE4
BlueJayWay Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I can't believe there are MLB fans that haven't encountered magic numbers.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I've never been inside a woman but I still think I know all about it. FTFY Lol jk
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Still don't understand this nonsense I'll explain it all to you on the phone if you agree to sell me 2 ALDS tickets at a significant profit for you.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah i've never seen this "magic number" stuff in my life. I personally don't really see the point of it. Win as many games as possible, that's the bottom line. You trolling?
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Sorry guys, I've honestly never seen this "magic number" stuff before. I understand how it works, I just don't really see the allure. I just follow the standings and do the math every couple days. If we clinch the division, it won't be until the last week of the season anyways, so it will be really easy to do the math.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 Sorry guys, I've honestly never seen this "magic number" stuff before. I understand how it works, I just don't really see the allure. I just follow the standings and do the math every couple days. If we clinch the division, it won't be until the last week of the season anyways, so it will be really easy to do the math. You guys are so spoiled nowadays with your fangraphs playoff probabilities calculating 99%+ playoff odds weeks in advance of mathematical elimination. Back in the days before computers, we had to rely on the math skills of sportswriters which is pretty much limited to Team A Wins + Team B Losses +1. Thus, the magic number was invented and beloved by all baseball fans of winning teams.
polar bear Verified Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I've never been in a threesome but I still know all about it. Never been in a threesome,how old are you,11 ?
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Never been in a threesome,how old are you,11 ? Crack heads and paid whores don't count.
Masterbather Verified Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Ah the magic number. I've had to explain this to a couple of younger folks in the last few weeks. I suppose only those of a certain age can appreciate it's nostalgic value.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Ah the magic number. I've had to explain this to a couple of younger folks in the last few weeks. I suppose only those of a certain age can appreciate it's nostalgic value. There's no WAR for magic number so I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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