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L54 Vancouver Canadians

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What are you smoking man? Can I get some of that s*** man?

 

Just morphine while I wait for surgery

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How are people still failing to understand Hutch has been one of our best starters this year? It blows my mind that people advocate moving him to the pen.

 

Results. Hutch has good peripherals but they haven't materialized into actual results.

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I feel bad for Stroman. He never got tweet back from Price but Hawkins and Bautista did lol. He sent him so many.

 

how dare he disrespect the 2014 Socially Savvy Rookie Award winner

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How are people still failing to understand Hutch has been one of our best starters this year? It blows my mind that people advocate moving him to the pen.

 

He's had an xFIP way below his ERA his whole major league career. At some point he needs to get results. He shouldn't be out of the rotation but are you buying him as a sub 4 ERA pitcher? I know I'm not.

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He's had an xFIP way below his ERA his whole major league career. At some point he needs to get results. He shouldn't be out of the rotation but are you buying him as a sub 4 ERA pitcher? I know I'm not.

 

His ERA is 90 points higher than his xFIP...in only 350 career innings.

 

His BABIP is .351, with a 65% strand rate. I can't see why you wouldn't buy it.

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If Hutchison had been as bad at home as on the road that would have been a very bad sign....But the fact that at home he has been excellent tells me that his stuff is still there and there must be something going on besides ability...??
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His ERA is 90 points higher than his xFIP...in only 350 career innings.

 

His BABIP is .351, with a 65% strand rate. I can't see why you wouldn't buy it.

 

His BABIP was .290 last year and he still had an inflated ERA. I don't recall what his strand rate was. Obviously, anytime a guy has an ERA way above his xFIP there are going to be stats to suggest he'll turn it around. He just seems really inconsistent, and yes I am using the eye test but he tends to just lose it for periods. How many pitchers have had an ERA much higher (not 90 points but say 40-50) than their xFIP over a long career? Legitimate question I am curious.

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His BABIP was .290 last year and he still had an inflated ERA. I don't recall what his strand rate was. Obviously, anytime a guy has an ERA way above his xFIP there are going to be stats to suggest he'll turn it around. He just seems really inconsistent, and yes I am using the eye test but he tends to just lose it for periods. How many pitchers have had an ERA much higher (not 90 points but say 40-50) than their xFIP over a long career? Legitimate question I am curious.

 

That's a perfectly fine question.

 

Morrow is a recent example, however the two disparities are coming closer together, and Morrow only has 768 IP under his belt. Only 30 points apart now.

 

Strasberg is a more extreme example, since he K's so many and doesn't walk a lot, but still a lack of IP: 710.

 

I think the best example here is Javier Vazquez: career 4.22 ERA and 3.75 xFIP and a plenty large sample. Still, that's a far cry from Hutchison's ERA-xFIP disparity.

 

EDIT: Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson could qualify as well, but again, you're dealing with extreme cases.

L54 Vancouver Canadians

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He's had an xFIP way below his ERA his whole major league career. At some point he needs to get results. He shouldn't be out of the rotation but are you buying him as a sub 4 ERA pitcher? I know I'm not.

 

I'm not saying he's great. I'm not sure that his true talent isn't much better than what it is now. A 3.8-4.0 FIP type of guy. But even so, he has still been one of the team's best starters. Moving him to the pen makes no sense at all.

L54 Vancouver Canadians

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I'm taking my two and half year old son to his first game on Sunday!

 

That'll be a good one to be at!

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YEah I think so, which sucks, would have rathered AA got someone with a bit of control.

 

Lol.. sup mj

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Read this somewhere today: the last time a team traded for an ace and ended up winning the World Series was the Jays with David Cone in '92. David... Cone. The Toronto Blue Jays.

 

The stars are aligning! Can't be a coincidence! (edit: definitely is a coincidence)

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That'll be a good one to be at!

 

I really hope so. I just heard Price might not start until Monday. I got tickets because I thought he would be starting. Please baseball god's let my son's first game be David Price's debut with the Jays

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Results. Hutch has good peripherals but they haven't materialized into actual results.

 

His peripherals are his results.

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Results. Hutch has good peripherals but they haven't materialized into actual results.

 

His peripherals are his results.

 

A) Hooker with great tits and big ass (peripherals), but mediocre sex.

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B) Unattractive hooker, but cheap and great performance

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