Tulo and Hawkins to the Jays for Reyes, Castro, Hoffman and Tinoco

[SAAviour]

Castro looks like a reliever....bye bye bud. I liked you but won't miss you.

[nmrch]

I still don't understand why we didn't strech Castro back out

 

Who cares he's terrible, that idiot general manager of ours someone convinced himself that a guy who couldn't even dominate A ball was somehow major league ready

[RealAccountant]

Castro is the prospect. That gas can, I can do without. Who else.

[Orgfiller]

Who cares he's terrible, that idiot general manager of ours someone convinced himself that a guy who couldn't even dominate A ball was somehow major league ready

 

I wouldn't say he's terrible just because his development got f***ed up. No one knows how Castro would have done had he continued as a starter in the low minors.

[Dylan]

There clearly has to be more to this trade.

[aselvana]

Andrew Stoeten ‏@AndrewStoeten 45s45 seconds ago

WHO RT'D FAKES! OFF THE INTERNETS

 

sto is drunk again

[RealAccountant]

Useless stolen bases inflate Reyes WAR numbers.

[SexyNewForum]

If it's Castro plus any one big prospect this is fine

If it's castro plus c prospects this could be great

[nmrch]

not by the casuals though. They will love his "grit" and "toughness" this s*** is real. No one ever shits on white players who were once great. Think Biggio, Rose, Brett, Chipper. Lesser and younger examples...Jim Edmonds, Johnny Damon, David Wright. No one ever says anything really negative about those guys.

 

I do agree that Reyes was treated poorly by the fans and media though, he wasn't a star but despite his flaws he was a valuable player. I didn't give two shits about his personality, not that there was anything wrong with it to begin with

[BTS]

Useless stolen bases inflate Reyes WAR numbers.

 

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[bill]

AA made a mistake in getting Reyes and was happy to unload him

[jaysblue]

not by the casuals though. They will love his "grit" and "toughness" this s*** is real. No one ever shits on white players who were once great. Think Biggio, Rose, Brett, Chipper. Lesser and younger examples...Jim Edmonds, Johnny Damon, David Wright. No one ever says anything really negative about those guys.

 

What?

[BTS]

I do agree that Reyes was treated poorly by the fans and media though, he wasn't a star but despite his flaws he was a valuable player. I didn't give two shits about his personality, not that there was anything wrong with it to begin with

 

Reyes was fine. I think a lot of the vitriol stemmed from concerns about just how bat things would get as his defense continued to decline into his mid 30s. In his time here, he definitely earned his pay though.

[TheHurl]

Old-school BTS/Hurl tag team up in this biatch

 

We did so horrible last time we teamed...got it all wrong. Honestly I don't hate the deal this time though. It's an upgrade this year, but it's another deal where if you don't win this year...looks worse and worse.

 

At least this time I understand the F.O. believing in their position to make the playoffs.

[L54]

I feel like anything is possible today. CMart, Paxton, DeGrom?

 

One of these things is not like the other.

[nmrch]

Reyes was fine. I think a lot of the vitriol stemmed from concerns about just how bat things would get as his defense continued to decline into his mid 30s. In his time here, he definitely earned his pay though.

 

Its wierd though, people wanted him to be a perfect well rounded player when he wasn't. We're okay with guys being solid and not stars but not with everyone.

[RealAccountant]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

[5minutesforframing]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

 

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[DuckDuckGose]

One of these things is not like the other.

 

BC I have no idea what AA is capable of. Some kind if witch or magician or something

[TheHurl]

What?

 

Baseball writers, and fans are racist. It's 100% true.

[WryNGinger]

Anyone watching other AL East boards to see what kind of chatter there is about this deal so far?

[Orgfiller]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

 

Just stop

[jaysblue]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

 

This sounds like something a caller would say on Mike Wilner's show.

[nmrch]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

 

This is what i'm talking about, people like to highlight the flaws of the player they don't like and tend to lose perspective, no one got it worse than Reyes, atleast not since like Rios.

[BTS]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

 

That OPS projection will be adjusted downward significantly in the next few days.

[jaysblue]

Anyone watching other AL East boards to see what kind of chatter there is about this deal so far?

 

I'd like to read the Yankees board. Going to check now.

[frizzer1]

Reyes was getting worse defensively.....he was soon going to be so bad that they would have had to take him off short and maybe DH...and he has become a singles hitter....no doubles or triples anymore....

For me this is like the Clarkson trade...I can't believe that anyone would take him at 22 mil...assuming that other than casto no other top prospects go..it's hats off to AA.

[Captain Adama]

Baseball writers, and fans are racist. It's 100% true.

 

Everyone is a little racist. Those who say otherwise are lying.

[King]

Its true. All those stolen bases, how many times does he take third for no reason at all. They probably make up 1-1.5 WAR for him. Troy actually gets hits. Projected to be .900 OPS hitter going forward. Buddy boy Reyes barely projects to be average.

 

I think every time Reyes throws away the game, they should make a manual adjustment of -1 WAR. I have him at about -20 WAR since he became a Jay.

 

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[Dylan]

Anyone watching other AL East boards to see what kind of chatter there is about this deal so far?

 

mostly the same thing.. jays don't need hitting and tulo playing on turf will be questionable. Everyone likes tulo though.

 

pretty fair.