Pete Walker

bronson44 · April 18, 2015

Am I alone in thinking a pitching coach change might be in order before any other drastic moves? Sorry if this seems reactionary but I was never a fan of his hiring in the first place and I've seen nothing that made me think I was wrong since.

Stroman was good before he got here. Hutch doesn't seem to have progressed much. Norris seems to have almost taken a step back command wise. I'm pretty sure he stays away from Burly and Dickey so they don't count. Who has he helped?

Stangstag · April 18, 2015

Was this really thread-worthy?

Maahfaace · April 18, 2015

Am I alone in thinking a pitching coach change might be in order before any other drastic moves? Sorry if this seems reactionary but I was never a fan of his hiring in the first place and I've seen nothing that made me think I was wrong since.

Stroman was good before he got here. Hutch doesn't seem to have progressed much. Norris seems to have almost taken a step back command wise. I'm pretty sure he stays away from Burly and Dickey so they don't count. Who has he helped?

Not seems, it is reactionary....

bronson44 · April 18, 2015

Was this really thread-worthy?

Probably not. I just really wanted other people's input on how much of an impact they think a pitching coach can have and the board seemed dead at the moment.

bronson44 · April 18, 2015

Alright, points taken. I'm hammered. Mods close this thread.

5minutesforframing · April 18, 2015

Not seems, it is reactionary....

Well technically most things that aren't done proactively are reactionary, so...

That being said, not sure Pete's the issue.

baubau · April 18, 2015

Didn't Pete help a few pitchers find new pitches last season and worked with Norris and Sanchez to develop pitches this season? I really don't follow the pitching/coaching aspect of MLB and their minor league teams to know whom has a good rep or not.

bronson44 · April 18, 2015

Didn't Pete help a few pitchers find new pitches last season and worked with Norris and Sanchez to develop pitches this season? I really don't follow the pitching/coaching aspect of MLB and their minor league teams to know whom has a good rep or not.

Not sure about last season, but I know he has been helping Sanchez with a slider, which he sucks at and never throws. Norris learned a change from him that looked great in one start but less so in the next. I realize these should probably not be Walker issues but I don't find him particularly insightful in interviews and any pitching coach praise I hear from players is usually directed to Dane Johnson.

TwistedLogic · April 18, 2015

Am I alone in thinking a pitching coach change might be in order before any other drastic moves? Sorry if this seems reactionary but I was never a fan of his hiring in the first place and I've seen nothing that made me think I was wrong since.

Stroman was good before he got here. Hutch doesn't seem to have progressed much. Norris seems to have almost taken a step back command wise. I'm pretty sure he stays away from Burly and Dickey so they don't count. Who has he helped?

lmao, Stroman and Hutchison both made very positive adjustments in 2014 after reaching the major league level, Norris debuted two weeks ago, and of course the two guys you don't have anything to complain about "don't count".

Please play again.

bronson44 · April 18, 2015

lmao, Stroman and Hutchison both made very positive adjustments in 2014 after reaching the major league level, Norris debuted two weeks ago, and of course the two guys you don't have anything to complain about "don't count".

Please play again.

Thanks for your input. So in your opinion Pete Walker is a good pitching coach? I'm sincerely asking. I don't know how to evaluate one but I never found him to be particularly insightful in interviews so my view of him is clouded by that.

Don't be a ****.

JohnnyLonghorn · April 18, 2015

Its so hard to quantify how much of an impact hitting and pitching coaches have. Especially when you dont see or know what kind of work they are doing behind the scenes. Id venture to say they have little impact in the grand scheme of things.

closetjaysfan · April 18, 2015

You might be on to something. How can you have a pitching coach that doesn't know how to throw a curveball?

ElNik2013 · April 18, 2015

Didn't Pete help a few pitchers find new pitches last season and worked with Norris and Sanchez to develop pitches this season? I really don't follow the pitching/coaching aspect of MLB and their minor league teams to know whom has a good rep or not.

I've pointed this out before and it's one thing that gives me some hope for Sanchez improving as the year goes by.

Stroman developed a sinker and Hutchison either developed or improved his slider during the course of last season. Norris learned a new changeup in ST which already looks good. Sanchez is working on a slider, but hasn't used it much, if at all, in games so far.

I'm actually surprised we haven't seen a "fire Jacoby" thread yet.

closetjaysfan · April 18, 2015

I've pointed this out before and it's one thing that gives me some hope for Sanchez improving as the year goes by.

I'm actually surprised we haven't seen a "fire Jacoby" thread yet.

We sit second in the majors with 62 runs scored and only 2 runs behind KC... offense is not the problem.

ElNik2013 · April 18, 2015

We sit second in the majors with 62 runs scored and only 2 runs behind KC... offense is not the problem.

I meant in terms of reactionary threadz. I'm in no way saying I'd fire the hitting coach.

I'm not for firing Pete Walker either. Hutchison was a bit unlucky and wild yesterday, but I liked the spike in K's we saw. Stay calm...

RealAccountant · April 18, 2015

It was a terrible hire to begin with,

to hire a pitching coach who has never been successful in pitching himself. Sigh

Anyways, I am sure failure in 2015 means they will all go

Statman · April 18, 2015

Am I alone in thinking a pitching coach change might be in order before any other drastic moves? Sorry if this seems reactionary but I was never a fan of his hiring in the first place and I've seen nothing that made me think I was wrong since.

Stroman was good before he got here. Hutch doesn't seem to have progressed much. Norris seems to have almost taken a step back command wise. I'm pretty sure he stays away from Burly and Dickey so they don't count. Who has he helped?

You are not alone.

He ran the worst bullpen in MLB before getting promoted to pitching coach.

There is going to be some type of coaching change in early-mid May I believe if things continue the way they are. Either Walker or Gibbons IMO.

Governator · April 18, 2015

What this team needs is Pat Hentgen back managing the pen. I don't know what he did but everyone exceeded expectations with him there.

Statman · April 18, 2015

What this team needs is Pat Hentgen back managing the pen. I don't know what he did but everyone exceeded expectations with him there.

Hentgen took over for Pete Walker and the bullpen went from worst to one of the best bullpens in baseball that year.

Our pitching staff has been in decline since Walker took over as well.

Deadpool · April 18, 2015

So a Fire Pete Walker thread before a Fire Gibby OR a fire AA thread?

Well, it's novel, I'll give you that!

(and since alcohol was involved in the thread creation, I will not hold it against you! Alcohol can do no wrong!)

ElNik2013 · April 18, 2015

How long till someone bumps the "Bautista is in decline" thread?

bendera3 · April 18, 2015

I think for the most part our starters have done a good job. It's the pen that has been a problem so far, which I think 90% of the board expected.

jays4life19 · April 18, 2015

How long till someone bumps the "Bautista is in decline" thread?

I'm hoping we see the " Are you worried we're going to make the playoffs" thread sometime this year.

Boxcar · April 18, 2015

It was a terrible hire to begin with,

to hire a pitching coach who has never been successful in pitching himself. Sigh

Anyways, I am sure failure in 2015 means they will all go

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