Rosenthal: Jays sign Felix Doubront

[Spanky99]

Has Francis ever not pitched like s***?

 

He's f***ing terrible.

[Brownie19]

Doubront's xFIP in 2013/2014 was about the same as Dickey and Buehrle the past couple of years. He's pitched in the AL East, but has lost some velo the past couple of years.

 

Decent depth guy.

[Laika]

BTS will love this. He covets Doubront.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Perfect world is probably something like:

Bautista

Donaldson

Martin

Encarnacion

Saunders

Reyes

Smoak

Travis

Pompey

 

I would like to see:

Reyes

Bautista

Pompey/Saunders

EE

Smoak

Donalson

Saunders/pompey

Martin

Travis

Saunders and pompey could switch, and if Pompey is batting down may swap him and Martin as well in the 7/8 holes!

But the order would be set with little changes everyone can bat everyday in the same spots even when fatty is in! Lol

[Deadpool]

I would like to see:

Reyes

Bautista

Pompey/Saunders

EE

Smoak

Donalson

Saunders/pompey

Martin

Travis

Saunders and pompey could switch, and if Pompey is batting down may swap him and Martin as well in the 7/8 holes!

But the order would be set with little changes everyone can bat everyday in the same spots even when fatty is in! Lol

 

I appreciate the balanced R/L line-up, but with the way this team is built, it just doesn't make sense for Pompey/Saunders to be getting more ABs than EE and Donaldson, or Smoak to get more ABs than Donaldson...

[RealAccountant]

Decent depth piece. Will he be stretched out as a starter in Buffalo? I honestly don't see the difference between him and Estrada, had Estrada pitched in the AL East these past few years.

 

The word decent is offended

[Governator]

The word decent is offended

 

so are all accountants.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I appreciate the balanced R/L line-up, but with the way this team is built, it just doesn't make sense for Pompey/Saunders to be getting more ABs than EE and Donaldson, or Smoak to get more ABs than Donaldson...

 

Balance speed power thang too mostly! Gives every big bopper a chance at more rib-eyes two, too! Smoak could benefit greatly between EE and Donaldson pitcher can't lock in either as easy! Plus Martin even though not a big bopper in the 8 hole means are best hitters are put to best use driving runs in. With this offense nobody should worry about getting enough at bats this season when we will be scoring as much as this team will!!! it's about winning not how many at bats or stats! Lol

That's why we play the game's!

Edited April 2, 2015 by BigBounceyBlueBalls

[Brownie19]

Perfect world is probably something like:

Bautista

Donaldson

Martin

Encarnacion

Saunders

Reyes

Smoak

Travis

Pompey

 

I'd love to hear the theory behind batting Martin 3rd...

[CrackerJack]

Not having protection helps the player though. It increases their contributions because they get even more walks. It's a good thing.

 

so (in your opinion) is a walk always a good thing for the offense and a bad thing for the defense?

 

since teams frequently pitch around feared sluggers resulting in a lot of "intentional unintentional walks" (in addition to the obvious intentional walks), do you think this is always bad strategy for the defense?

 

i'm not talking about Joey Votto's approach at all (which I have no problem with) ... i'm just wondering whether issuing/drawing a walk could be viewed from both dugouts as a wise move (depending on the situation?) ... or, for you, are walks always "a good thing" for the offense and thus bad for the other side even though that's the outcome they're intending?

[KingKat]

Rules of thumb to build a lineup.

 

Three best hitters go 1, 2, and 4. Best OBP guy 1, best SLG 4 and the other guy 2nd.

Your two next best hitters go 3 and 5. Best OBP 3rd.

Next best is in order 6-9. If close in talent, faster guy goes first.

 

Just to add to this... The frequency of 2 out no one on base PAs for the 3rd hitter knock the value of that spot down a peg in spite of what conventional wisdom says.

[Governator]

Rules of thumb to build a lineup.

 

Three best hitters go 1, 2, and 4. Best OBP guy 1, best SLG 4 and the other guy 2nd.

Your two next best hitters go 3 and 5. Best OBP 3rd.

Next best is in order 6-9. If close in talent, faster guy goes first.

 

I've always felt the fastest of 6-9 should be last to never limit your lead off guy from stretching singles in to doubles, etc. I wouldn't want Navarro in front of Reyes for example

[G-Snarls]

[Atothe]

 

Good old Mike Wilner handjob

[RealAccountant]

Awaits the can Dubront hit thread

[43211234]

Good old Mike Wilner handjob

 

That's FakeWilner.

 

Not that there's much difference in the delusion level between the parody and the real thing.

[Boxcar]

Please enlighten us on how martin and Saunders are better hitters than Reyes. Avoid the use of arbitrary projections please mr robot

 

Well, if you dont want to use projections (which would actually help you argument) both Saunders and Martin were extremely better than Reyes:

 

Saunders: 126 wRC+

Martin: 140 wRC+

Reyes: 102 wRC+

 

Projections have them closer. You could put Reyes ahead without a drop but they are all comparable.

[Atothe]

That's FakeWilner.

 

Not that there's much difference in the delusion level between the parody and the real thing.

 

I honestly didn't notice lol

[Deadpool]

Cherry picking career years isn't what I was looking for kid. Martin is no where near a career 140 wRC+ hitter and Saunders will play about 65 games all season

 

The guy who doesn't trust projections is just fine with baseless speculation. Gotcha.

[Brownie19]

Ya the third spot has the lowest average LI of all spots in the lineup.

 

Sorry - what's LI?

[Brownie19]

Rules of thumb to build a lineup.

 

Three best hitters go 1, 2, and 4. Best OBP guy 1, best SLG 4 and the other guy 2nd.

Your two next best hitters go 3 and 5. Best OBP 3rd.

Next best is in order 6-9. If close in talent, faster guy goes first.

 

Who's rule of thumb is this? And when will we ever see a ML Manager break "tradition" and actually do this?

 

I've always been a huge proponent of getting your best hitters more at bats (seems simple enough) - yet ML managers still don't even try and do that... I never understood sticking some light hitting guys who handles the bat well 2nd (P.Polanco).

[GD]

Sorry - what's LI?

 

Leverage Index. Measures the importance of the situation.

[Jonzo]

That's FakeWilner.

 

Not that there's much difference in the delusion level between the parody and the real thing.

 

Wow can't believe I never knew about Fake Wilner. His tweets are bang on and hilarious.

[NorthOf49]

Baseless speculation has no base, surmising an outcome is likely to happen that has happened nearly every prior season is speculation based on the most accurate information available at the moment.

All a projection system does is weigh past information in a way that minimizes error. It is similar to what you do in your head but will be more accurate over a large pool of players. It's not arbitrary at all and is a useful tool.

 

At any rate, projections and my intuition agree that Saunders, Martin and Reyes are comparable hitters.

[Boxcar]

Cherry picking career years isn't what I was looking for kid. Martin is no where near a career 140 wRC+ hitter and Saunders will play about 65 games all season

 

I used last year's numbers. I didn't cherry pick anything.

[GD]

Park factors 2013-2014 (runs / HR):

 

PNC: 0.941 / 0.675

 

RC: 1.137 / 1.387

 

Are you a gambling man?

 

wRC+ is park adjusted

[Deadpool]

Baseless speculation has no base, surmising an outcome is likely to happen that has happened nearly every prior season is speculation based on the most accurate information available at the moment.

 

2006: 104

2007: 123

2008: 91

2009: 110

2010: 121

2011: 122

2012: 142

2013: 135

2014: 93

 

Apparently, Saunders has played 65 games in nearly every prior season, guys...

[tpurewal97]

So does this mean that Goins makes the team , and the Jays will risk losing Hendriks on waivers now that they've got Doubront in Buffalo ?

[G-Snarls]

Wow can't believe I never knew about Fake Wilner. His tweets are bang on and hilarious.

 

It's a funny account