Around Baseball 2015

[Spanky99]

Make it into a three way with Mariners?

 

Sounds arousing!

[Dr. Dinger]

He's also like two homerless months from being considered garbage on this forum. See: the massive shift in opinion on Dan Norris between April and July. His upside is limited by the fact that he doesn't have ay power. I think that's the kind of guy you can move for a 3+ win upgrade, especially with the comp pick coming back.

 

Pompey has some power. I could see him routinely landing between 10-15 HR per year. I remember he smoked one into the 2nd deck that really surprised me.

[Brownie19]

He's also like two homerless months from being considered garbage on this forum. See: the massive shift in opinion on Dan Norris between April and July. His upside is limited by the fact that he doesn't have ay power. I think that's the kind of guy you can move for a 3+ win upgrade, especially with the comp pick coming back.

 

I don't disagree one bit...guess that's why the Jays get paid the big bucks.

 

Personally, much like AA - I prefer targeting players with multiple years of control.

[Orgfiller]

I don't disagree one bit...guess that's why the Jays get paid the big bucks.

 

Personally, much like AA - I prefer targeting players with multiple years of control.

So you agree with him then?

 

David Price? Mark Lowe?

[Dr. Dinger]

So you agree with him then?

 

Why say something clearly when you can use a double negative instead?

[Laika]

Pompey has some power. I could see him routinely landing between 10-15 HR per year. I remember he smoked one into the 2nd deck that really surprised me.

 

Off of Felix Hernandez.

 

His swing is geared for line drives, but I think his power will stack up to guys like Victorino, Shannon Stewart, Desmond Jennings, if the rest of his game can let him stick in the big leagues.

[Dr. Dinger]

Off of Felix Hernandez.

 

His swing is geared for line drives, but I think his power will stack up to guys like Victorino, Shannon Stewart, Desmond Jennings, if the rest of his game can let him stick in the big leagues.

 

Yeah, that's good pop. He's by no means Ben Revere in the power department.

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/?content_id=36527035&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_tor_homers

http://m.mlb.com/video/v75405183?mlbtax=home_run

[Laika]

Yeah, that's good pop. He's by no means Ben Revere in the power department.

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/?content_id=36527035&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_tor_homers

http://m.mlb.com/video/v75405183?mlbtax=home_run

 

"he doesn't have any power" - BTS

[THANOS]

Off of Felix Hernandez.

 

His swing is geared for line drives, but I think his power will stack up to guys like Victorino, Shannon Stewart, Desmond Jennings, if the rest of his game can let him stick in the big leagues.

 

He made a significant change to his offensive approach in AA last year as well, which only improved in his return to AAA. It led to him averaging a .400 OBP, 12.2 BB% and 13.9 K%, while spraying line-drives all around the field. I think if that approach continues and translates to the Majors, it's reasonable to predict a slash line of 275/365/420 with great defense and elite baserunning/speed, which is more than acceptable imo, especially if he ends the season either as our leadoff hitter or hitting 9th.

[GD]

Guys, burlingtonbandit says Pompey's a mental midget. Gotta trade him.

[glory]

Kimbrel would probably cost less than Chapman to acquire. I'd go that route.

[Brownie19]

Why say something clearly when you can use a double negative instead?

 

screw you guys.

[GD]

Don't not screw you guys.

 

Fixed

[fireballW]

He's also like two homerless months from being considered garbage on this forum. See: the massive shift in opinion on Dan Norris between April and July. His upside is limited by the fact that he doesn't have ay power. I think that's the kind of guy you can move for a 3+ win upgrade, especially with the comp pick coming back.

 

You are pretty random about when to give throw value out the window and when not to. Pompey looks good. If we are going to trade him it better be for more than one year of a reliever and a comp pick. Pompey for five years will provide much more value than Chapman on one.

[BTS]

You are pretty random about when to give throw value out the window and when not to. Pompey looks good. If we are going to trade him it better be for more than one year of a reliever and a comp pick. Pompey for five years will provide much more value than Chapman on one.

 

I think the comp pick will be more valuable than Pompey a year from now.

[KingKat]

I think the comp pick will be more valuable than Pompey a year from now.

 

I don't agree with that but it is a possible outcome and that has to be factored when making the trade. When you're a contender there's something to be said for the bird in the hand and Chapman is one hell of a bird.

[Dr. Dinger]

This seems like a moot point, as we're not gettin Chapman for just Pompey anyway.

[baubau]

I think the comp pick will be more valuable than Pompey a year from now.

 

I'd love to hear the argument on why this would be.

[gruber92]

I think the comp pick will be more valuable than Pompey a year from now.

 

Holy f***..

[BTS]

I don't agree with that but it is a possible outcome and that has to be factored when making the trade. When you're a contender there's something to be said for the bird in the hand and Chapman is one hell of a bird.

 

That was probably strong on my part. I'm not expecting Pompey to be an above average player this year, and think that a year from now there won't be clear separation between his value and the value of a comp pick, which is somewhere in the $10-20M range.

[KingKat]

Holy f***..

 

Pompey could bust. I mean I'm not expecting it the way BTS is but it would be ridiculous not to account for the possiblity.

[Frenchsoup]

Pompey=Dexter Fowler with more speed but can't play CF. He's got quite a bit of value but is definitely on the trade table.

[BTS]

A fairly successful outcome for Pompey is Ben Revere: 90-100 wRC+ corner OF who can run and play some CF in a pinch, and nobody wants to pay him $6.7M this year. Of course we can still dream on him becoming Starling Marte, which gives him more value.

[KingKat]

Pompey=Dexter Fowler with more speed but can't play CF. He's got quite a bit of value but is definitely on the trade table.

 

Pompey is a better CF than Fowler.

[Frenchsoup]

Pompey is a better CF than Fowler.

 

Not from what I saw last year. There was a reason he was demoted and was playing LF the rest of the year in the minors. I saw it and the Jays brass saw it.

[Dr. Dinger]

Not from what I saw last year. There was a reason he was demoted and was playing LF the rest of the year in the minors. I saw it and the Jays brass saw it.

 

I'm guessing that reason is because Kevin Pillar was crushing it in CF and the Jays didn't know they were going to trade for Ben Revere, so they expected Pompey to be recalled later in the season and get most of his reps in LF.

[Frenchsoup]

I'm guessing that reason is because Kevin Pillar was crushing it in CF and the Jays didn't know they were going to trade for Ben Revere, so they expected Pompey to be recalled later in the season and get most of his reps in LF.

 

If he was playing adequate defense in LF and wasn't crying every time he struck out, he would have been playing over Carerra/Bello.

[burlingtonbandit]

Did Pompey change his swing in the minors? Looked over his stats and in 2015 with the Jays he had an infield flyball rate of 30%. Even though that is a Small sample size that seems alarmingly high?

[Jimcanuck]

I wouldn't do Pompey for Chapman and pretty sure that would be contrary to Shapiro's MO.

 

Pompey can be the 4th OF and through various means he should see 300 PA in 2016. That's enough to know what we have. Revere likely gone after 2016 and JB needs a perma-move to 1B.

 

Pillar / Pompey/ Alford 2017

[KingKat]

If he was playing adequate defense in LF and wasn't crying every time he struck out, he would have been playing over Carerra/Bello.

 

Pompey was awarded a minor league gold glove in CF. All the scouting reports rave about his defense. I have seem him play CF in AA myself and I can tell you that he sure as hell passes the eye test too. You're fabricating a whole new reality here based on a liberal interpretation of what happened on the MLB club this year.