LTR Verified Member Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 He had one shaky inning and then settled in nicely after that..he has what it takes. Would've liked to see him develop more as a Jay, Norris too.. but oh well. Not even, just BABIP'd. He had 2 K's in the first.
LTR Verified Member Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Props to Adam Loewen... back in the bigs (as a pitcher)... hasn't pitched in the majors since 2008 (lol)! 1K 1H 1IBB 0.1IP... topped out at 92mph
LTR Verified Member Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 His AAA line this year is jokes 11.74 K/9 6.26 BB/9 1 HR 46 IP
bones10 Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 What is the general consensus of the no salary cap imposed on baseball. Friend of mine is a Rays fan and always pesters me, or anyone else who favors a team with a higher payroll as 'cheaters'. As a result of this I have an irrational hatred for the rays cause hes so arrogant, but does he have a point?
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Today, for the first time in baseball history, all 15 home teams won their games.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 What is the general consensus of the no salary cap imposed on baseball. Friend of mine is a Rays fan and always pesters me, or anyone else who favors a team with a higher payroll as 'cheaters'. As a result of this I have an irrational hatred for the rays cause hes so arrogant, but does he have a point? No, lol. There isn't a strong relationship between dollars spent and games won anymore.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Today, for the first time in baseball history, all 15 home teams won their games. Wow
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Today, for the first time in baseball history, all 15 home teams won their games. Seriously, that doesn't seem like an improbability. But then, the Jays had loaded bases something like 154 times at Yankee stadium over the course of the last 40 years and Smoak was the first Jay to hit a grand slam. Numbers are funny.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 What is the general consensus of the no salary cap imposed on baseball. Friend of mine is a Rays fan and always pesters me, or anyone else who favors a team with a higher payroll as 'cheaters'. As a result of this I have an irrational hatred for the rays cause hes so arrogant, but does he have a point? If the Jays sucked this year I'd be for a salary cap. Because they have a chance for playoffs this year I currently say, meh, it's okay for now.
Farm Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 No, lol. There isn't a strong relationship between dollars spent and games won anymore. But there probably still is a relationship between dollars spent and overall talent in the organization. The Dodgers in general and the Toussaint trade are pretty clear examples of where having money leads to acquiring more talent. Hell, the Revere and Pennington trades are examples of that too -- probably could have given up less or worse prospects if we paid for their contracts. One possibility: more money leads to worse management, leading to a parity of sorts. But this seems like a lazy explanation. The more likely explanation is that salaries are artificially repressed due to entry level contracts and arbitration. Combine that with the fact that baseball players hit the ground running (due to the minor league system) and peak relatively early (due to the high prevalence of injuries, especially among pitchers) and the nature of baseball being a shitshow in terms of random volatility in performance, and it makes sense that there isn't a strong relationship between dollars spent and games won. If you check out http://freakonomics.com/2012/10/11/money-didn%E2%80%99t-buy-happiness-in-baseball-in-2012/, in general there is a positive relationship dollars spent and games won. The relationship might not be strong, and it might not always be statistically significant, but it is there. Maybe organizations with high payrolls don't allocate their resources in the most optimal way. But I don't think there is a question that spending more leads to more talent, and by extension, a chance at more wins. Just look at those talent for dollars trades, and international free agency. I believe that there is a strong relationship between dollars spent and probability of organization talent/success. There just has to be, and to think otherwise is probably something cheap organizations encourage.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 If the Jays sucked this year I'd be for a salary cap. Because they have a chance for playoffs this year I currently say, meh, it's okay for now. That doesn't sound homerish at all.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 /snip Of course spending more can very easily lead to winning more. The thing is though, it isn't really necessary nowadays.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Johnny Cueto Song Vs Colby Rasmus Song Edited August 12, 2015 by Angrioter Best stupid song
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Hmm, both make me squirm while watching but I guess the Cueto song is slightly more tolerable.
Jonzo Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 lol wat i think the cueto one might take the cake
Governator Community Moderator Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/powerrangers.gif
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Johnny Cueto Song Vs Colby Rasmus Song Merged please lol
Caper Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 What is the general consensus of the no salary cap imposed on baseball. Friend of mine is a Rays fan and always pesters me, or anyone else who favors a team with a higher payroll as 'cheaters'. As a result of this I have an irrational hatred for the rays cause hes so arrogant, but does he have a point? Except for the Dodgers and Yankees. Having a lot of money can get a team in a lot of trouble. All teams have the ability to lock up almost any talent, at least one of them. and the big contract guys, they are just horrible value. Not to mention if you get a good player young you can keep them during their most productive years, cheap.
Farm Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Of course spending more can very easily lead to winning more. The thing is though, it isn't really necessary nowadays. It isn't necessary - but then it is likely you are going to have to suck and draft high for a couple of years like the Astros. Unless you can consistently draft better/develop players better (or just get lucky), you are going to have to pay more if you want to be consistently good.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 What is the general consensus of the no salary cap imposed on baseball. Friend of mine is a Rays fan and always pesters me, or anyone else who favors a team with a higher payroll as 'cheaters'. As a result of this I have an irrational hatred for the rays cause hes so arrogant, but does he have a point? I'd love a hard cap. Teams that operate shrewdly under a budget are my favourite teams to watch. Anything that levels the playing field and allows the smartest FO's to thrive is positive in my books.
Caper Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I'd love a hard cap. Teams that operate shrewdly under a budget are my favourite teams to watch. Anything that levels the playing field and allows the smartest FO's to thrive is positive in my books. Like the Jays this year.
Inklink Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Watched 9 seconds, of both, total. Horrendous.
Inklink Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Oh by the way, OTHER. Not even close. As in, not stupid, but GREAT.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Oh by the way, OTHER. Not even close. As in, not stupid, but GREAT. Great song, but this -------->
baubau Verified Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I want 2 minutes of my life back Ang...
Inklink Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Great song, but this --------> Fair point. Multicolour Buck face takes the cake. Not sure why EE doesn't use it as his walk up song.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Holy God, this is really good -------->
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I think the Cueto video is a least tongue in cheek and the production values aren't even that bad. The Rasmus video is just embarassing and borderline unlistenable. It's also much longer which in this case is definitely a bad thing.
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