BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 AA said he wants to add some relievers via trade but doesn't want to give up any top prospects so which relievers could he be looking at? I would like AA to look at Motte or Romo but that probably is not happening lol, thoughts?
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't jump on one of the flamethrowers in the rule 5 and see if that s*** could stick to the wall... I assume Navarro will be moved, and probably for relief help, but Arizona, who have the most glaring need at C for someone like Navarro, don't want to trade relief pitching for some reason... Basically, I haven't got a f***ing clue is what I'm saying.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Jason Grilli will sign a 2/9 contract and close for the next two years.
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't jump on one of the flamethrowers in the rule 5 and see if that s*** could stick to the wall... I assume Navarro will be moved, and probably for relief help, but Arizona, who have the most glaring need at C for someone like Navarro, don't want to trade relief pitching for some reason... Basically, I haven't got a f***ing clue is what I'm saying. Navarro for Ziegler?
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 Jason Grilli will sign a 2/9 contract and close for the next two years. That could work, I honestly hope Martin can catch Dickey so the Jays can get rid of Thole he doesn't do anything.
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 As for Romo: Thanks for posting that
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Navarro for Ziegler? You'll fit in well here lol, seems like everyone wants this to happen. Crain and Ogando are two potential options on FA.
labadee Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 You'll fit in well here lol, seems like everyone wants this to happen. Crain and Ogando are two potential options on FA. It makes too much sense. D-backs need a catcher, but they said they won't trade a bullpen piece for one
jayswin11 Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=545001#gameType='R'§ionType=splitsCareer&statType=2&season=2014&level='ALL' DFA'd
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 You'll fit in well here lol, seems like everyone wants this to happen. Crain and Ogando are two potential options on FA. I would love to have Crain on this team!!! Ogando is interesting didn't he start for the Rangers?
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=545001#gameType='R'§ionType=splitsCareer&statType=2&season=2014&level='ALL' DFA'd I think the Jays need right handers in the pen not more leftys
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Ogando, Morrow, Axford, Janssen
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 Ogando, Morrow, Axford, Janssen Looks like good although, I think Morrow comes back as a depth starter if he does decide to come back that is.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Drabek is out of options and AA seems determined not to lose anyone on waivers pretty much every year. What are the odds that he makes the pen out of Spring Training? I don't have any faith in him at this point but he was the centerpiece of the Halladay deal so there may be extra motivation to hope he pans out as a reliever.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't jump on one of the flamethrowers in the rule 5 and see if that s*** could stick to the wall... I assume Navarro will be moved, and probably for relief help, but Arizona, who have the most glaring need at C for someone like Navarro, don't want to trade relief pitching for some reason... Basically, I haven't got a f***ing clue is what I'm saying. lol
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Drabek is out of options and AA seems determined not to lose anyone on waivers pretty much every year. What are the odds that he makes the pen out of Spring Training? I don't have any faith in him at this point but he was the centerpiece of the Halladay deal so there may be extra motivation to hope he pans out as a reliever. I like Drabek. He deserve some innings out of the pen
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Ogando, Morrow, Axford, Janssen Janssen is seriously perfect for this team, and frankly, the general opinion towards him around these parts has gotten way overboard. Three straight seasons of brilliant work out of the pen from 2011-2013 (top 15 in the majors kind of brilliant), never posted negative value at any point in his career, and he entered the All Star break in 2014 with a 2.00 FIP and a 1.23 ERA. People have really been s***ing on him because of 23 bad innings in the second half of the season, after he got ludicrously sick and lost 8 pounds in 10 hours over the break. If we're looking at bounce-back candidates like Romo, Ogando and Grilli, Janssen should be first on that list. And what blows is that I really don't think the Jays are looking at bringing him back. Whoever does give him a chance is probably going to get a steal. Bring back Janssen, pick up Crain, trade Navarro for a third arm, and the bullpen is probably set.
jayswin11 Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Janssen is seriously perfect for this team, and frankly, the general opinion towards him around these parts has gotten way overboard. Three straight seasons of brilliant work out of the pen from 2011-2013 (top 15 in the majors kind of brilliant), never posted negative value at any point in his career, and he entered the All Star break in 2014 with a 2.00 FIP and a 1.23 ERA. People have really been s***ing on him because of 23 bad innings in the second half of the season, after he got ludicrously sick and lost 8 pounds in 10 hours over the break. If we're looking at bounce-back candidates like Romo, Ogando and Grilli, Janssen should be first on that list. And what blows is that I really don't think the Jays are looking at bringing him back. Whoever does give him a chance is probably going to get a steal. Bring back Janssen, pick up Crain, trade Navarro for a third arm, and the bullpen is probably set. Agreed.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Janssen is seriously perfect for this team, and frankly, the general opinion towards him around these parts has gotten way overboard. Three straight seasons of brilliant work out of the pen from 2011-2013 (top 15 in the majors kind of brilliant), never posted negative value at any point in his career, and he entered the All Star break in 2014 with a 2.00 FIP and a 1.23 ERA. People have really been s***ing on him because of 23 bad innings in the second half of the season, after he got ludicrously sick and lost 8 pounds in 10 hours over the break. If we're looking at bounce-back candidates like Romo, Ogando and Grilli, Janssen should be first on that list. And what blows is that I really don't think the Jays are looking at bringing him back. Whoever does give him a chance is probably going to get a steal. Bring back Janssen, pick up Crain, trade Navarro for a third arm, and the bullpen is probably set. Well said, I've been one of the guys that have been opposed to his return but you are right he could be a steal.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Janssen is seriously perfect for this team, and frankly, the general opinion towards him around these parts has gotten way overboard. Three straight seasons of brilliant work out of the pen from 2011-2013 (top 15 in the majors kind of brilliant), never posted negative value at any point in his career, and he entered the All Star break in 2014 with a 2.00 FIP and a 1.23 ERA. People have really been s***ing on him because of 23 bad innings in the second half of the season, after he got ludicrously sick and lost 8 pounds in 10 hours over the break. If we're looking at bounce-back candidates like Romo, Ogando and Grilli, Janssen should be first on that list. And what blows is that I really don't think the Jays are looking at bringing him back. Whoever does give him a chance is probably going to get a steal. Bring back Janssen, pick up Crain, trade Navarro for a third arm, and the bullpen is probably set. As long as he's not just handed the "closer" title (which should be abolished by any forward thinking team anyway) I'm 100% okay with Janssen returning.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 How do you lose 8 pounds in 10 hours??
leaffie Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 How do you lose 8 pounds in 10 hours?? Get Norwalk virus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 How do you lose 8 pounds in 10 hours?? I lost almost 20 in 3 days. Pancreatitis
JaysRap Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Ogando, Morrow, Axford, Janssen Sub Morrow for Motte and we're good.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 If bullpens are volatile at best why spend on them? I mean might as well run out rookies and get the same for less money! And what's to say are bullpen will not be improved making no moves! Rebound. Do they not benefit from having Martin framing too! Just sign shields already! Takes 32 - 64 innings of work off the pen right there! Shields Dickey Stroman Buehrle Hutch How sexxxy is that!
BlueJaysCC Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Author Posted December 13, 2014 If bullpens are volatile at best why spend on them? I mean might as well run out rookies and get the same for less money! And what's to say are bullpen will not be improved making no moves! Rebound. Do they not benefit from having Martin framing too! Just sign shields already! Takes 32 - 64 innings of work off the pen right there! Shields Dickey Stroman Buehrle Hutch How sexxxy is that! That would be a good idea and the Jays could put Sanchez in the pen and Shields would bring their starter's projected win total to 67. However with that being said, I don't know if there is mutual interest between Shields and the Jays and the fact that Shields will probably sign with the Redsox unfortunately. The Redsox will outbid the Jays on AAV and term
JaysRap Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 If bullpens are volatile at best why spend on them? I mean might as well run out rookies and get the same for less money! And what's to say are bullpen will not be improved making no moves! Rebound. Do they not benefit from having Martin framing too! Just sign shields already! Takes 32 - 64 innings of work off the pen right there! Shields Dickey Stroman Buehrle Hutch How sexxxy is that! Sub Dickey with De La Rosa and we good.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Sub Dickey with De La Rosa and we good. Dickey's like 200 IP of guaranteed average ball + Dickey effect on a low AAV. No idea why people want to move him. If Martin can catch the knuckler, we can get a better backup and Dickey will be even more valuable now that he's only taking up one spot
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