(2014) Winter Meetings Discussion Thread

[Westfan]

Ok Neshek and Gregerson off the board so who is the next best targets.

On the trade side could we steal Roy Alvarez from the Padres, Evan Mashall from the Dbacks

[TDotttt2005]

Ok Neshek and Gregerson off the board so who is the next best targets.

On the trade side could we steal Roy Alvarez from the Padres, Evan Mashall from the Dbacks

 

McGowan and Janssen are the next best targets, in all honesty. AA is obsessing over "value" again in the free agent market. He's going to end up having to give up assets to acquire relief help which rarely works out well for him.

[GreekFatAss]

Sign McCarthy and keep Sanchez in the pen. Problem solved. If your going to spend $10ish million for a reliever, why not get a starter and keep the minimum wage rookie as the closer?

[HERPDERP]

just like the Jays-Vince .gif, here is the White sox one

 

http://i.imgur.com/NBHj6LR.gif

[glory]

Sign McCarthy and keep Sanchez in the pen. Problem solved. If your going to spend $10ish million for a reliever, why not get a starter and keep the minimum wage rookie as the closer?

 

Agreed. If ~1 WAR relievers are getting $6M a year, then sign a 3 WAR starter for $13M per and put Sanchez in the pen. It might hurt Sanchez's development, but you either want to win in 2015 or half-ass it. That decision is up to them.

[xposbrad]

Gregerson was the guy this team needed. AA missed the boat.

[Chappy]

Gregerson was the guy this team needed. AA missed the boat.

 

No GM ever misses the boat when it comes to RP. They are a dime a dozen.

[JaysAllMighty]

McGowan and Janssen are the next best targets, in all honesty. AA is obsessing over "value" again in the free agent market. He's going to end up having to give up assets to acquire relief help which rarely works out well for him.

 

I certainly don't want us to rely on Janssen as our closer. He's all downhill imo.

[Olerud363]

Well what more were they supposed to do? They had great SP and needed to improve their pen and went out and picked up two great RP's that didn't work out...so you are saying, based on this, teams should give up trying to acquire RP?

 

I'm not that concerned about relief pitching. We can find some on the cheap. By all means pick some up if the price is right.

 

I was just pointing out that people are saying "get relief pitching or else we'll be like the tigers"

 

But the tigers did everything they could in terms of "getting relief pitching". They "got" great relievers.

 

Those great relievers just didn't perform.

 

The giant have guys like Jean Machi. If your thinking who the hell is that I was too. Apparently just some 30something guy who they picked up from the Mexican League or something.

 

And they have Jeremy Affeldt. Who looks Casey Jansen to me. Mediocre in 2013. Bounced back.

 

So as long as Jansen is healthy start with keeping him... who cares if he had a down year. It happens.

[Westfan]

No GM ever misses the boat when it comes to RP. They are a dime a dozen.

 

More like 6 million a dozen this year. Lol

[JTech780]

Just heard on MLB radio that Dee Gordon is available from the Dodgers. What would it take to acquire him and would it be worth it?

 

His OBP could be better but it has improved every year he has been in the majors. He can play 2B and SS, so he could spell Reyes at SS and as a leadoff guy on days off or in case of injury. Adding his speed to the lineup would be a big plus.

 

If AA could add him without giving up Sanchez or Norris is it worth it or even possible without giving up either of those two.

[Angrioter]

Just heard on MLB radio that Dee Gordon is available from the Dodgers. What would it take to acquire him and would it be worth it?

 

His OBP could be better but it has improved every year he has been in the majors. He can play 2B and SS, so he could spell Reyes at SS and as a leadoff guy on days off or in case of injury. Adding his speed to the lineup would be a big plus.

 

If AA could add him without giving up Sanchez or Norris is it worth it or even possible without giving up either of those two.

 

Unidimensional player. Bonifacio is cheaper.

[GreekFatAss]

Just heard on MLB radio that Dee Gordon is available from the Dodgers. What would it take to acquire him and would it be worth it?

 

His OBP could be better but it has improved every year he has been in the majors. He can play 2B and SS, so he could spell Reyes at SS and as a leadoff guy on days off or in case of injury. Adding his speed to the lineup would be a big plus.

 

If AA could add him without giving up Sanchez or Norris is it worth it or even possible without giving up either of those two.

 

The problem is he has so much cheap control, he will be a super 2 next season but still have 5 years of club control and since he just posted a 3 WAR season, they can expect to ask for a package for at least 1 top notch Sanchez/Norris prospect + others.

[burlingtonbandit]

Why the f*** are the Astros hunting relievers? That team is s*** and they don't need to spend money on them.

 

I think they know that good relievers have a ton of trade value at the deadline, so they are signing them only to flip them at the deadline. Only logical explanation I have,

[L54]

Even though he successfully traded with Beane, I don't want to see AA dealing with Friedman. The thought of the package for Dee Gordan after a 3 WAR year makes me cringe.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Why the f*** are the Astros hunting relievers? That team is s*** and they don't need to spend money on them.

 

So they should totally punt their season because they are long shots? You'd make a great GM.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Even though he successfully traded with Beane, I don't want to see AA dealing with Friedman. The thought of the package for Dee Gordan after a 3 WAR year makes me cringe.

 

Every GM makes mistakes. Most people didn't like the return for Price. The Shields trade IMO will be poor in hindsight but we have to wait on Myers still. That's just off the top of my head.

[xposbrad]

No GM ever misses the boat when it comes to RP. They are a dime a dozen.

 

So who do you see that's left that is as good? I don't think ~6.25m/yr for him was a bad deal.

[Westfan]

Anyone find a player of interest in the rule 5 draft tomorrow. I see some hard throwers with little control.

[Sorrow]

Anyone find a player of interest in the rule 5 draft tomorrow. I see some hard throwers with little control.

 

Cody Martin - he'll go early I think.

[JaysRap]

Relievers are gettin snapped up here, where's AA? He went to the Winter Meetings with the intent to fix the bullpen and time's a ticking.

[TwistedLogic]

[NorthOf49]

Wade Miley is one of my favourite pitchers. He'll sneaky good.

 

I'm nervous the Red Sox are going to steal him here.

[King]

Wade Miley is one of my favourite pitchers. He'll sneaky good.

 

I'm nervous the Red Sox are going to steal him here.

 

Did you like my trade in the BBDL, North?

[TwistedLogic]

Aaron Sanchez+ for Wade Miley.

 

AA's having a media conference right now, so I really doubt he's on the other end of this trade.

 

Speaking of...

[NorthOf49]

Did you like my trade in the BBDL, North?

Yes. You got yourself a young workhorse #3 in Miley for two loose ends.

[King]

Alex was at the Raptors game when the Donaldson trade news broke, apparently. You never know!

 

Although, I think he's going to the Red Sox here. We'll have to see.

[TwistedLogic]

Also, saw this yesterday, thought it was funny, forgot to post:

Kinda hilarious/f***ed up how that played out. I'd feel pretty bitter if I was an A's fan right now.

[TBJ12]

Based on this tweet from Barry Davis it sounds like the Jays were interested in Gregerson and Neshek but both preferred Houston.

 

[King]

I would do Sanchez + for Miley.