AA on Tim&Sid

[burlingtonbandit]

This isn't new.

 

I knew they were really high on him but never heard anyone actually come out and say that.

[labadee]

I knew they were really high on him but never heard anyone actually come out and say that.

 

same

[burlingtonbandit]

Finally someone asked about the non-tender deadline. Says you might see a few moves. Tolleson DFA?

[Smokey]

If you don't think Hutch, Norris or Sanchez have upside then I don't know what to say...

 

C'mon man, get serious here. Hutch is a number 3 at best and the other two haven't proven anything to even belong in the conversation for 2015.

 

 

So your saying you want a starter (currently have a very good rotation and depth) because it isn't a proven rotation yet are advocating going into the season with a guy at 2B who hasn't played above AA?

 

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Acquire a cheap versatile MIF who can fill in for Reyes here and there and bridge the gap for Travis. Acquiring a proven shutdown starter will have a much greater impact than upgrading 2B once the playoffs roll around.

[saskjayfan]

My prediction is that Donaldson underachieves next year while Lawrie bounces back and has a great year. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if those last two years by Donaladson were the best of his career. This seems to be the way when Toronto signs big players they come to Toronto and underachieve.

 

way to stay positive bill..lol.

[King]

I knew they were really high on him but never heard anyone actually come out and say that.

 

I told you this bout a week ago.

 

Here’s a name for Blue Jays fans to keep an eye on: Miguel Castro. The power-armed righty, who turns 20 on Dec. 24, will be invited to big-league camp during spring training as a prospect with a chance to quickly climb the ranks. He spent most of 2014 at short-season-A Vancouver before making four starts at low-A Lansing and two appearances at advanced-A Dunedin, catching Anthopoulos’s eye in the process. "I look back and think we should have moved this guy sooner," he said. Provided he remains on his current trajectory, Castro could find himself in the Blue Jays bullpen at some point next year, although long-term the team sees him as a starter. Why the bullpen? "We’re going to watch his innings anyways," said Anthopoulos. "He’s got a plus fastball that he throws for strikes, he’s got a plus-plus changeup, the breaking ball is hit and miss and that needs some work. We’re going to bring him into camp because he’s someone who could come quick. Because he throws strikes, has a power arm and a plus changeup, I would not be surprised if he comes quick."

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/if-melky-cabrera-signs-elsewhere-to-whom-do-toronto-blue-jays-turn/

[burlingtonbandit]

C'mon man, get serious here. Hutch is a number 3 at best and the other two haven't proven anything to even belong in the conversation for 2015.

 

 

 

 

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Acquire a cheap versatile MIF who can fill in for Reyes here and there and bridge the gap for Travis. Acquiring a proven shutdown starter will have a much greater impact than upgrading 2B once the playoffs roll around.

 

Hutch has some of the best K rates last year and with Martin behind the plate compared to Navarro it isn't a stretch to see him improve even more. You are underrating how much Martin helps the pitching staff compared to Navarro.

 

And upgrading 2B might be the difference between winning the division and wildcard/no playoffs. Also would cost a lot in resources which can be better spent elsewhere given the makeup of the club.

[Jimcanuck]

Say anything about Osuna... where he will play, etc?

[burlingtonbandit]

Say anything about Osuna... where he will play, etc?

 

Could go to AA NH or Dunedin.

[burlingtonbandit]

I told you this bout a week ago.

 

 

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/if-melky-cabrera-signs-elsewhere-to-whom-do-toronto-blue-jays-turn/

 

Lol yup I remember now.

[Smokey]

Hutch has some of the best K rates last year and with Martin behind the plate compared to Navarro it isn't a stretch to see him improve even more. You are underrating how much Martin helps the pitching staff compared to Navarro.

 

And upgrading 2B might be the difference between winning the division and wildcard/no playoffs. Also would cost a lot in resources which can be better spent elsewhere given the makeup of the club.

 

I'm not underrating/underestimating anything. The addition of Martin has changed my whole outlook about the future success of the club. I've always believed that an elite defensive catcher is the foundation of any successful baseball team... But regardless of who's catching, going into a playoff series with Dickey, Stroman and Hutch as your top three will put the team at a pitching disadvantage against most teams. It's really that simple.

[reedjohnsonfan]

My prediction is that Donaldson underachieves next year while Lawrie bounces back and has a great year. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if those last two years by Donaladson were the best of his career. This seems to be the way when Toronto signs big players they come to Toronto and underachieve.

 

lol. You made the exact same post on the old message board. Funny guy.

[ScientificReason]

Lol at people here overating this pitching staff.... We won't win without adding a good starter..... Everything had to break perfect for this staff, for all we know stroman could regress hutch is inconsistent. Dickey is 40, Mb won't start this year 10-1 with an era in the low 2's. Happ is Happ. Way too many questions marks.

[ScientificReason]

I'm not underrating/underestimating anything. The addition of Martin has changed my whole outlook about the future success of the club. I've always believed that an elite defensive catcher is the foundation of any successful baseball team... But regardless of who's catching, going into a playoff series with Dickey, Stroman and Hutch as your top three will put the team at a pitching disadvantage against most teams. It's really that simple.

 

That is an understatement.

[saskjayfan]

Lol at people here overating this pitching staff.... We won't win without adding a good starter..... Everything had to break perfect for this staff, for all we know stroman could regress hutch is inconsistent. Dickey is 40, Mb won't start this year 10-1 with an era in the low 2's. Happ is Happ. Way too many questions marks.

 

Hutch, stro, buehrle and dickey all had fip's below 4 last year. Happ is not great, but a decent number 5. You're right, looking around the AL east with all the dominant starting staff's we have zero hope of winning without another quality starter...oh wait...the rest of the AL East has crappy starting pitching....maybe we can win with mediocre starting pitching and great offense. The rest of the division has mediocre starting pitching.

[saskjayfan]

I'm not underrating/underestimating anything. The addition of Martin has changed my whole outlook about the future success of the club. I've always believed that an elite defensive catcher is the foundation of any successful baseball team... But regardless of who's catching, going into a playoff series with Dickey, Stroman and Hutch as your top three will put the team at a pitching disadvantage against most teams. It's really that simple.

 

well yeah...the starting staff wouldn't scare too many post season teams...but really I would be happy just to make the post season..or even be within 1 game of the post season going into the final 7 games with a shot to make the playoffs..lol

[RealAccountant]

Lol at people here overating this pitching staff.... We won't win without adding a good starter..... Everything had to break perfect for this staff, for all we know stroman could regress hutch is inconsistent. Dickey is 40, Mb won't start this year 10-1 with an era in the low 2's. Happ is Happ. Way too many questions marks.

 

Very little username to post content ratio

[Gorlak]

Lol at people here overating this pitching staff.... We won't win without adding a good starter..... Everything had to break perfect for this staff, for all we know stroman could regress hutch is inconsistent. Dickey is 40, Mb won't start this year 10-1 with an era in the low 2's. Happ is Happ. Way too many questions marks.

 

Agreed, The Jays rotation is quite mediocre. It is made up of number 3 starters, Stroman may be a 2. Don't think the Jays should spend for starter though.

[L54]

I really hope AA is targeting McCarthy. He won't cost a ton, threw 200 innings last year, and can probably be counted on for ~180 quality innings this year.

 

Stroman

McCarthy

Hutch

Dickey

Buehrle

Happ

Estrada

Sanchez

Norris

 

Seems like a rotation with some upside in Stro, Hutch and McCarthy, and a couple inning eaters with Dickey and Buerhle.

[Jimcanuck]

Hutch, stro, buehrle and dickey all had fip's below 4 last year. Happ is not great, but a decent number 5. You're right, looking around the AL east with all the dominant starting staff's we have zero hope of winning without another quality starter...oh wait...the rest of the AL East has crappy starting pitching....maybe we can win with mediocre starting pitching and great offense. The rest of the division has mediocre starting pitching.

 

Red Sox - Lester

New York - Scherzer

Baltimore - McCarthy

Tampa Bay - Laffey

 

Not so mediocre

[admin]

Not totally relevant to the AA interview itself, but Kevin Barker was on Sportsnet earlier, and although I think he's a bit of a tard, I really like what he said about turf. Says he played in Toronto for a bit and he feels like people exaggerate the effects of the turf. Said that major leaguers are treated to the best trainers, best food, best conditioning, and the bottom line is that if someone isn't coming to Toronto, it's not because of the turf, it's because of the money.

 

Interview here.

You're right, my mistake. The signing before the Marlins deal was Izturis.

 

I've played football on a couple different turfs, and I'm sure Rogers Centre has about the best you can buy. But I just don't see how this issue keeps coming up. Sure the old turf were it was basically green carpet on cement, but I don't see how they complain about it with today's technology, it's almost identical to grass. I don't watch a lot of football, but I'm sure there are atleast a few stadiums that use turf, and I don't think I've ever heard of it being an issue in football... and running in football is a lot harder on the knees/body than baseball.

[burlingtonbandit]

I've played football on a couple different turfs, and I'm sure Rogers Centre has about the best you can buy. But I just don't see how this issue keeps coming up. Sure the old turf were it was basically green carpet on cement, but I don't see how they complain about it with today's technology, it's almost identical to grass. I don't watch a lot of football, but I'm sure there are atleast a few stadiums that use turf, and I don't think I've ever heard of it being an issue in football... and running in football is a lot harder on the knees/body than baseball.

 

Football players also have much shorter careers and they only play full speed on it once a week. I agree though that it seems to be a bigger issue than it really is. The new turf is pretty damn good and personally I prefer it over grass.

[GD]

I've played football on a couple different turfs, and I'm sure Rogers Centre has about the best you can buy. But I just don't see how this issue keeps coming up. Sure the old turf were it was basically green carpet on cement, but I don't see how they complain about it with today's technology, it's almost identical to grass. I don't watch a lot of football, but I'm sure there are atleast a few stadiums that use turf, and I don't think I've ever heard of it being an issue in football... and running in football is a lot harder on the knees/body than baseball.

 

Rogers Centre turf is pretty awful, honestly.

[Dick_Pole]

My prediction is that Donaldson underachieves next year while Lawrie bounces back and has a great year. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if those last two years by Donaladson were the best of his career. This seems to be the way when Toronto signs big players they come to Toronto and underachieve.

 

Josh Johnson was the only one who fits that profile. Frank Thomas was 100 when he came here and Bonafacio and Izturis aren't big players, nor are any of the guys off the discount bin who were awarded the closer role before someone finally smartened up and just gave it to Janssen. Rasmus had a mix of good and bad but I can see the argument that he didn't live up to expectations though the investment on him wasn't high.

 

Meanwhile guys like Rolen, Glaus, Burnett, BJ Ryan, Cabrera and Escobar all did rather well here while MB, Reyes and Dickey cost a lot but their performances have been ok. Then there's EE and Bautista who weren't big players when acquired but became them here.

 

If anything, it's the homegrown talent that never amounts to anything or mysteriously hits the shitter.

[GD]

Dickey hasn't lived up to expectation but Buehrle and Reyes have been exactly what's been expected.

[ScientificReason]

Very little username to post content ratio

 

HUH?? What does forum post count mean for anything unless you are a major loser?

[ScientificReason]

Dickey hasn't lived up to expectation but Buehrle and Reyes have been exactly what's been expected.

 

Reyes is a lot worse then I expected....even his lack of patience at the plate has been a disappointment.

[ScientificReason]

Hutch, stro, buehrle and dickey all had fip's below 4 last year. Happ is not great, but a decent number 5. You're right, looking around the AL east with all the dominant starting staff's we have zero hope of winning without another quality starter...oh wait...the rest of the AL East has crappy starting pitching....maybe we can win with mediocre starting pitching and great offense. The rest of the division has mediocre starting pitching.

 

And what is the point of winning the division only to have no shot in the playoffs? This team in the playoffs will be at a disadvantage in the playoffs..... It's not just about the east. because other teams have s***** staffs it is OK we do?? LOL that loser mentality.

[KingKat]

Since I didn't see it ITT, here's a link to the audio from Tim & Sid: http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/tim-and-sid/alex-anthopoulos-on-decision-to-acquire-josh-donaldson/

[saskjayfan]

Red Sox - Lester

New York - Scherzer

Baltimore - McCarthy

Tampa Bay - Laffey

 

Not so mediocre

 

I'm entirely confused with your post..why are you attaching free agents with teams...lol. Boston's rotation as it stands is Buchholz, Kelly, Webster, De La Rosa, Workman. Adding Lester doesn't make it a great rotation. Scherzer to NYY would make a nice rotation, but the injury worries for both Tanaka and Pineda are high. Adding a number 3 pitcher to a team with a bunch of number 3s doesn't really change anything. Laffey? Tampa probably has the best rotation in the division, but is lacking on offense.