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Will we ever see a 300 K season again from a starter?

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Will we ever see a starting pitching record 300 K's in a single season again?  

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  1. 1. Will we ever see a starting pitching record 300 K's in a single season again?

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Just came to mind, after reading about the new names on the HOF ballot. Randy Johnson in the day was sick. Do you think we'll ever see a 300 K strikeout season again? If so, who'd be your choice to reach that milestone in a single season?

 

Edit: Last pitchers to have a 300 K season were Johnson and Schilling both in 2002. Over 12 years.

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If someone current can do it, Darvish is my pick. I don't think he'll ever keep his walks down (without reducing his Ks) enough to reach it, but he already had 270 or w/e it was a couple of years ago. Not too far away.
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If someone current can do it, Darvish is my pick. I don't think he'll ever keep his walks down (without reducing his Ks) enough to reach it, but he already had 270 or w/e it was a couple of years ago. Not too far away.

 

277 in 2013. Price had 271 this season.

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Randy Johnson's 2001 numbers are just dumb. Rogers Clemons had some crazy years for the Jays too.

 

It would have been awesome to play fantasy baseball back in those days :) Imagine having a stacked rotation of Clemens, Johnson and Schilling! Yikes!

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It would have been awesome to play fantasy baseball back in those days :) Imagine having a stacked rotation of Clemens, Johnson and Schilling! Yikes!

 

I was too young to appreciate that s***. Crazy looking back on some of these guys numbers. Bary Bonds fangraphs page is just ridiculous.

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I was too young to appreciate that s***. Crazy looking back on some of these guys numbers. Bary Bonds fangraphs page is just ridiculous.

 

Yeah I was only in elementary school when guys like Johnson, Schilling, Pedro, Clemens were at the top of their game. I remember watching them pitch and in video games like Triple Play Baseball lol - I was too young to appreciate their greatness however. Like I knew they were some of the top starters in baseball at the time, though from looking at the advanced stats today, they were all just on another level!

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I think it's hard to say; although K rates are going up, bullpen use has changed a lot, and that's partly why K rate is higher. Starters don't log as many innings as they used to, and I wonder if anyone will log the innings needed to attain that many K.
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I think it's hard to say; although K rates are going up, bullpen use has changed a lot, and that's partly why K rate is higher. Starters don't log as many innings as they used to, and I wonder if anyone will log the innings needed to attain that many K.

 

K rates for starters have been climbing considerably as well, but you're right starters don't have as many innings as they used to, even in the 90's, especially for high K pitchers. A pitcher with a 10.5/9 k rate would have to log at least 256 IP to reach that mark.

 

For comparison, Roy Halladay had 266 in 2003.

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I don't know, weren't K/9 extremely high for starters this season? If offence continues to decline post-steroid era, we should see it eventually?

 

A fair point but we'd also need to see starting pitchers throw more innings each year. That's the part I don't see happening with any consistency anytime soon.

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It would have been awesome to play fantasy baseball back in those days :) Imagine having a stacked rotation of Clemens, Johnson and Schilling! Yikes!

 

I remember taking Randy Johnson and Kevin Brown with back to back picks in their heyday and dominating my league. It was really hard to lose with Johnson in rottiserie back in his heyday. Every start was like Christmas.

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A fair point but we'd also need to see starting pitchers throw more innings each year. That's the part I don't see happening with any consistency anytime soon.

 

Darvish had 277 in 209 innings in 2013. I doubt he can lower his walks and keep his K rate similar, so you're probably right.

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If someone current can do it, Darvish is my pick. I don't think he'll ever keep his walks down (without reducing his Ks) enough to reach it, but he already had 270 or w/e it was a couple of years ago. Not too far away.

 

Giving up walks helps him get K's as long as he doesn't give up so many that doesn't pitch as many innings. That's why k/9 is kind of a poop stat.

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Just came to mind, after reading about the new names on the HOF ballot. Randy Johnson in the day was sick. Do you think we'll ever see a 300 K strikeout season again? If so, who'd be your choice to reach that milestone in a single season?

 

Edit: Last pitchers to have a 300 K season were Johnson and Schilling both in 2002. Over 12 years.

 

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