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There used to be a time when it was exceptionally rare for a player to jump from AA to the majors.

 

Alex Anthopoulos has made this exceptionally common in recent years. And it reeks of desperation.

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Just a note, the whole MLB.com thing where they ranked him #9 in the Jays system, I'd take that with a grain of salt. If he's really in the top 100 MLB prospects (I read he was #84 a few times, not sure what list those people are going by) that puts him more around the #5 territory, around Hoffman and Pompey.

 

Yeah either that or the Jays have 9 guys in the Top 100? lol I think you are right.

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There used to be a time when it was exceptionally rare for a player to jump from AA to the majors.

 

Alex Anthopoulos has made this exceptionally common in recent years. And it reeks of desperation.

 

He also used to be the type of person who would be the one trading a player like Travis for Gose. Seems to finally be valuing the Hit tool a bit more now.

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He also used to be the type of person who would be the one trading a player like Travis for Gose. Seems to finally be valuing the Hit tool a bit more now.

 

Tools over Athletes. Finally!

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Just a note, the whole MLB.com thing where they ranked him #9 in the Jays system, I'd take that with a grain of salt. If he's really in the top 100 MLB prospects (I read he was #84 a few times, not sure what list those people are going by) that puts him more around the #5 territory, around Hoffman and Pompey.

 

He was #84 on BA's list. Not in MLB.com's top 100.

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according what most are saying Detroit's farm was absolutely shyte before this trade... how does it rank now that they traded one of the few guys who were rated marginally well? lol
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according what most are saying Detroit's farm was absolutely shyte before this trade... how does it rank now that they traded one of the few guys who were rated marginally well? lol

 

One of the worst in MLB..

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I heard he had some sort of injury to begin the season. Not sure if that has anything to do with the numbers but what I read was that the timeframes of the injury healing and his uptick in production were similar. That could all be a bunch of BS but I did read it somewhere.

 

This is from Badlers BA write up on the deal. I posted it on page ten of this thread

 

Travis missed six weeks early in the season with an oblique injury, and the effects carried over into May, but from June on he batted .312/.379/.481.

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according what most are saying Detroit's farm was absolutely shyte before this trade... how does it rank now that they traded one of the few guys who were rated marginally well? lol

 

Detroit generally trades their prospects so they are in sad shape but the worst

Angels have nothing left.

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according what most are saying Detroit's farm was absolutely shyte before this trade... how does it rank now that they traded one of the few guys who were rated marginally well? lol

 

Imagine being a Tigers fan? Your best prospect just netted a 4th OF. (Not that I wouldn't rather have a team that makes the playoffs with a s***** farm then a team with a good farm that never makes the playoffs).

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Imagine being a Tigers fan? Your best prospect just netted a 4th OF. (Not that I wouldn't rather have a team that makes the playoffs with a s***** farm then a team with a good farm that never makes the playoffs).

 

Imagine being a Jays fan?

Your best two prospects for an 40 old end-rotation starter.

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I like that we dont lose a draft pick for a 2B. This frees up a lot of money to be spent elsewhere as well. Good trade for us though I really liked Gose's Defense and that is going to be hard to replace.

 

This only looks bad if the FO was relying on Melkey resigning and no plan B.

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Gose probably platoons with Davis in CF next year lol.

 

Jokes aside, that should be a pretty productive platoon and always having one or the other available to pinch run will be a nice luxury.

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Detroit generally trades their prospects so they are in sad shape but the worst

Angels have nothing left.

 

Imagine being a Tigers fan? Your best prospect just netted a 4th OF. (Not that I wouldn't rather have a team that makes the playoffs with a s***** farm then a team with a good farm that never makes the playoffs).

 

what's the old saying... prospects are trading chips?

 

I'm sure every time AA is on the phone the first thing he hears is "Stroman" I'm glad the Stro-show is still a jay. Sanchez too... I hope we hit April with both those guys still in the fold.

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I like that we dont lose a draft pick for a 2B. This frees up a lot of money to be spent elsewhere as well. Good trade for us though I really liked Gose's Defense and that is going to be hard to replace.

 

This only looks bad if the FO was relying on Melkey resigning and no plan B.

 

 

The way I look at it is......Lets say Gose had a s***** spring (very good chance) we would have to carry him as he was out of options. his bat is something that needs a lot of time and work and thats something we can't afford to carry.

 

So now we trade him for a guy with options and a position of weakness. Regardless whether Melky signs or not, this was a solid trade.

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great trade

 

funny it happens the same day Baseball America lists its top 10 2015 Detroit Tigers prospects and Devon is No. 1 lol

 

now can they make a similar trade, Navarro and Happ for a young OF..... then sign Martin

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Personally I can't see how a player who hasn't played a game in the majors can be considered a legitimate second baseman.

 

I have to wonder if once again the Blue Jays have been mesmerized by offensive numbers. Devon Travis seems to have quite few errors in the minors - http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=travis000dev but his fielding percentage seems to be decent.

 

The Blue Jays got rid of a great defensive player who couldn't learn to hit consistently at the majors for a potential second baseman who has never played in the majors. It is tough to get excited by this trade. It seems like the Blue Jays just traded Anthony Gose for a lottery ticket.

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He also used to be the type of person who would be the one trading a player like Travis for Gose. Seems to finally be valuing the Hit tool a bit more now.

 

Every time he starts valuing something more he loses sight of something else.

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Scouting Book: The Best Second Base Prospects for 2015


     
  1. Joe Panik
  2. Dilson Herrera
  3. Devon Travis
  4. Forrest Wall
  5. Taylor Lindsey
  6. Delino DeShields
  7. Avery Romero
  8. Tony Renda
  9. Jorge Polanco
  10. Ronnie Rodriguez
  11. Kensuke Tanaka
  12. Rob Refsnyder
  13. Domingo Leyba
  14. Ryan Brett
  15. Cory Spangenberg
  16. Tyler Kelly
  17. Jacoby Jones
  18. Jose Ramirez
  19. Hernan Perez
  20. Angelo Gumbs

 

Listing 2B prospects is like listing the hottest fat chicks though. They just get bumped by real hot chicks that put on a few pounds. In the case of 2B's they get bumped by SS's that can't stick

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Scouting Book: The Best Second Base Prospects for 2015


     
  1. Joe Panik
  2. Dilson Herrera
  3. Devon Travis
  4. Forrest Wall
  5. Taylor Lindsey
  6. Delino DeShields
  7. Avery Romero
  8. Tony Renda
  9. Jorge Polanco
  10. Ronnie Rodriguez
  11. Kensuke Tanaka
  12. Rob Refsnyder
  13. Domingo Leyba
  14. Ryan Brett
  15. Cory Spangenberg
  16. Tyler Kelly
  17. Jacoby Jones
  18. Jose Ramirez
  19. Hernan Perez
  20. Angelo Gumbs

 

 

Interesting. I didn't know Delino DeShields (former Expo) had a son in the minor leagues - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delino_DeShields,_Jr. .

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I would really love Stephen Drew on a one year pillow contract. Should come cheap and has a great chance to rebound and more importantly when the Jose Reyes likely injury happens we can slide Drew over to SS and plug in Travis and we won't be f***ed. Also creates a bridge to Travis. Hopefully we can make nice with Boras.
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I would really love Stephen Drew on a one year pillow contract. Should come cheap and has a great chance to rebound and more importantly when the Jose Reyes likely injury happens we can slide Drew over to SS and plug in Travis and we won't be f***ed. Also creates a bridge to Travis. Hopefully we can make nice with Boras.

 

Nahhh!

 

Lawrie and Reyes are injury prone; add Drew or Lowrie could end in disaster.

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Imagine being a Tigers fan? Your best prospect just netted a 4th OF. (Not that I wouldn't rather have a team that makes the playoffs with a s***** farm then a team with a good farm that never makes the playoffs).

 

 

Not to mention what Fister netted them.

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if gose improves his hitting in the future jays lose this trade

 

He doesn't even really have to. His arm/speed/defense tools are good enough for him to have Dyson/Bourjos-esque 2+ win seasons in limited time. We saw glimpses this year with 1.3 fWAR in <300 PA.

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