2014 Blue Jays Draft | Signings, Bonuses and Rumors Thread

[TwistedLogic]

Did the Blue Jays mess up again with their first-round picks? Will they be stuck not being able to sign Jeff Hoffman and Max Pentecost? I am not sure what happens with them when they draft in the first round, but they seem to misjudge whether they will sign with them or not. If they do not sign these two picks again, will they get the 10th and 12th overall picks next year as well as their own?

-- Bob, Calgary, Alberta

 

Why do people have to be so suicidal when it comes to anything relating to this team?

[Mikeleelop]

Why do people have to be so suicidal when it comes to anything relating to this team?

 

History with 2 of the last 3 years plus no playoff appearance for over twenty years I guess??

[theblujay]

Ok is the 11th pick protected or not? I thought it was two years protection but mayo said it isn't.

[The Cats Ass]

I can't see Hoffman not signing. If he's heading for TJ surgery he'd have to be really stupid not to. That means he'd re-enter the draft next year as a senior while not having pitched in the past year.

[Angrioter]

Ok is the 11th pick protected or not? I thought it was two years protection but mayo said it isn't.

 

Just one year

[Mikeleelop]

Keith Law quite emphatically said it was changed in the last cba to two years protection. So there is a conflict between Mayo and Law

[NorthOf49]

It's not about what KLaw says or what Mayo says.

 

The CBA says that teams get two years of protection.

[Mikeleelop]

It's not about what KLaw says or what Mayo says.

 

The CBA says that teams get two years of protection.

 

I believe that is the answer, but I can't find the section of the cba

[Mikeleelop]

 

Mr callis agrees that it is two years per the cba

[Angrioter]

 

Mr callis agrees that it is two years per the cba

 

Thanks.

 

Callis > Goldstein = Parks > Law > Mayo

[GeorgiaPeach]

History with 2 of the last 3 years plus no playoff appearance for over twenty years I guess??

 

If they followed other teams they'd realize the Jays aren't the center of the Baseball Universe and there's other teams who don't win the World Series every year.

[Mikeleelop]

Thanks.

 

Callis > Goldstein = Parks > Law > Mayo

 

Agree callis is the best.

 

I like Law a bit more than you though. I'd say callis>Goldstein=parks=Law>>Mayo

[imsorry4beatinU]

Jim Callis- 1 Jonathon Mayo- 0

 

2 years protected

[Mikeleelop]

Jonathan Mayo ‏@JonathanMayoB3 ·46 mins

@Landobeauty @jimcallisMLB @Mikeleelop @BlueJays @MLBDraft oops, error on my part. Will fix this morning

 

I know that there is a better way to show a tweet, but i forget how.

 

Anyway Mayo has said he will update his website

 

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[SpeedyGose]

It's not about what KLaw says or what Mayo says.

 

The CBA says that teams get two years of protection.

 

Hasn't this been posted 3+ times in this thread? How are people not understanding?

[TwistedLogic]

Hasn't this been posted 3+ times in this thread? How are people not understanding?

 

I had to mention it like 40 times last year as well. Though that's a bit more understandable, since the change had just been introduced. Still pretty bad when someone like Mayo doesn't know the rule.

 

Jonathan Mayo ‏@JonathanMayoB3 ·46 mins

@Landobeauty @jimcallisMLB @Mikeleelop @BlueJays @MLBDraft oops, error on my part. Will fix this morning

 

I know that there is a better way to show a tweet, but i forget how.

 

Anyway Mayo has said he will update his website

 

[482509193304637440]

 

Use the "tweet" tag:

 

[Key22]

I see a lot of lower picks unsigned - is there anyone besides the first two picks that are deemed to be tough signs or players who will go well above slot if the do sign? Any of the lower picks that you really don't want to lose?

[TwistedLogic]

I see a lot of lower picks unsigned - is there anyone besides the first two picks that are deemed to be tough signs or players who will go well above slot if the do sign? Any of the lower picks that you really don't want to lose?

 

There are five big guys that are pretty much impossible signs at this point; Weisenberg, Latz, Pop, Papierski and Lugbauer. Then there are three good ones that already have signed, or are looking like they will be signing, in Dusty and Todd Isaacs (no relation), and Gunnar Heidt. And then there's Tanner Houck. Houck is one of the best prospects we drafted, and he is open to signing, so I would think he's the Jays best bet (basically seems to be in the exact same boat as Tellez was last year; quite hard to sign, but open to the possibility). If the Jays do end up with some savings, look for most of those dollars to be used on locking up Houck and Heidt, and probably also go towards guys like Dusty and Todd. Not sure they'll have enough left over to get Winemiller, don't have any idea what his signability is like, but he's another guy I would like to see signed.

[SJE32]

I believe Dusty Isaacs signed June 12

[admin]

There are five big guys that are pretty much impossible signs at this point; Weisenberg, Latz, Pop, Papierski and Lugbauer. Then there are three good ones that already have signed, or are looking like they will be signing, in Dusty and Todd Isaacs (no relation), and Gunnar Heidt. And then there's Tanner Houck. Houck is one of the best prospects we drafted, and he is open to signing, so I would think he's the Jays best bet (basically seems to be in the exact same boat as Tellez was last year; quite hard to sign, but open to the possibility). If the Jays do end up with some savings, look for most of those dollars to be used on locking up Houck and Heidt, and probably also go towards guys like Dusty and Todd. Not sure they'll have enough left over to get Winemiller, don't have any idea what his signability is like, but he's another guy I would like to see signed.

 

Any of the guys we won't sign have the potential to be high first rounders in the future, like we've seen before?

[GD]

Any of the guys we won't sign have the potential to be high first rounders in the future, like we've seen before?

 

Yeah, like Weaver, Bryant and co. But you can't blame us for not signing these guys, they're dead set on going. it was surprising we even took fliers on them period. If we even signed one of them I'd be shocked/thrilled.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Need to sign the mighty Quinn !

[Camps]

Hoffman/Pentecost both signed.

[Camps]

Hoffman for slot, per Heyman

 

@JonHeymanCBS now

#jays sign rhp jeff hoffman for slot $. 1st rounder

[Dylan]

NICE!!!

 

 

Shi Davidi @ShiDavidi · 4m

#BlueJays sign first-rounders Jeff Hoffman and Max Pentecost

[HERPDERP]

very surprised they didn't push until the deadline

 

guess they are true ballers and want in now.

[fatcowxlive]

Very nice. Did Pentecost sign for slot?

 

"@JonHeymanCBS

Pentecost gets slot $ from #jays also. Terrific hitter at kennesaw st."

 

[Qwerty]

That's pretty disappointing. Wish we saved more money in this draft, to sign some of the later round picks. Terrible drafting when we took ZZ....

 

Its not terrible drafting. You need backups in case guys dont sign/they randomly get hurt. Teams do it every year.

[deekman81]

Boom!

[SJE32]

The ZZ not signing really stings now. Basically throwing away $190,000 in cap space.