L54 Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Thanks. Is Trevor Story cooked? I checked out his Savant page and a lot of blue and not much red. He was dropped in my dynasty league. I was going to take Painter with my pick but wondered about Story. Stick with Painter? Painter no doubt
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Thanks. Yeah, sometimes I put too much value in player rankings. Story is still ranked very high on lists, but I don't think they're looking enough at the underlying metrics.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Thanks. Yeah, sometimes I put too much value in player rankings. Story is still ranked very high on lists, but I don't think they're looking enough at the underlying metrics. Savant is just telling (or can I should say) the same story as stats. Injury can impact both. So it becomes determining what kind of impact you think injuries had. But to the point, I would automatically reject a Story for Painter proposal, whether I was in win now or a rebuild
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Woodruff for (2) mid round of 1sts, and (1) 2nd round pick Veto worthy? Or no?
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Woodruff for (2) mid round of 1sts, and (1) 2nd round pick Veto worthy? Or no? it's a bad trade for sure
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 it's a bad trade for sure Yes, bad but not veto worthy
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Yes, bad but not veto worthy it might be close depending on the context and how heavy handed the league wants to be certainly if it's two established league members then it's not veto worthy
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 it might be close depending on the context and how heavy handed the league wants to be certainly if it's two established league members then it's not veto worthy Probably if it was two established members it would be something more serious because there would clearly be some kind of quid pro quo going on. This is more innocent and simply a bad owner Once the names are inserted rather than the picks, it will look very bad lol
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 I say veto it. It materially hurts the competitive spirit of the league. That and collusion are the only two things I'd veto for.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 I say veto it. It materially hurts the competitive spirit of the league. That and collusion are the only two things I'd veto for. I’m assuming this guy that traded the draft picks came from that league Twisted Logic was always talking about
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Hey, one last question. I have to keep 2 of Alejandro Kirk, Baz, and Painter. It doesn't matter that Baz is out for a year. I have enough depth to complete this year. But looking at the overall value of each player long-term.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 it might be close depending on the context and how heavy handed the league wants to be certainly if it's two established league members then it's not veto worthy Greenwood traded with a newb in the BBDL 1-7, 1-12 and a '24 2nd... Welp!
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Hey, one last question. I have to keep 2 of Alejandro Kirk, Baz, and Painter. It doesn't matter that Baz is out for a year. I have enough depth to complete this year. But looking at the overall value of each player long-term. Kirk and Painter for me. Baz has had a number of injuries already - some guys like that just disappear.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Hey, one last question. I have to keep 2 of Alejandro Kirk, Baz, and Painter. It doesn't matter that Baz is out for a year. I have enough depth to complete this year. But looking at the overall value of each player long-term. I’m sure there’s a better cut somewhere
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 No, there really isn't. They are the lowest ranked of the players I have. The league was initially 20 players to keep but reduced it to 18. So it's messing with my team. I even have Torkelson who I still like that I have to cut. Sucks.
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Kirk and Painter for me. Baz has had a number of injuries already - some guys like that just disappear. Thanks. Makes sense. That's who I was thinking too.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 No, there really isn't. They are the lowest ranked of the players I have. The league was initially 20 players to keep but reduced it to 18. So it's messing with my team. I even have Torkelson who I still like that I have to cut. Sucks. I wouldn’t cut Tork until next year. There’s definitely a lot of guys that you know what they are and it won’t be crushing. If Tork becomes a Top 50 asset, that would sting
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 No, there really isn't. They are the lowest ranked of the players I have. The league was initially 20 players to keep but reduced it to 18. So it's messing with my team. I even have Torkelson who I still like that I have to cut. Sucks. Post all your keepers and best cuts
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 As a reference, Fantrax has the P both around 130. Tork at 160. I didn’t scroll past 300 to find Kirk. I like him as a Jay, but he’s a C. Jays signed a guy that could potentially get the bulk of DH duties, the people here keep insisting that Danny Jansen is good…. So I would drop Kirk’s fat ass
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Kirk and Painter for me. Baz has had a number of injuries already - some guys like that just disappear. This is why your teams stall at the next level
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 My 18 right now are: Kirk, Guerrero, Albies, Bregman, Franco, Witt Jr., Soto, Alvarez, Carroll, Vaughan. Burnes, Woodruff, Nola, Bieber, Peralta, Grayson, May, Eury Perez. I also have Torkelson, Baz, Springs, and Tovar that I have to drop. I also have the #1 pick crazy enough and I was always looking to pick a Painter. But now that the league changed the rules (I was going to keep Baz and Tork under the old rules) I was curious of which 2 of should keep of Kirk, Baz, and Painter. My league is incredibly frustrating. I offered Baz, Torkelson, Springs, and Tovar all for another player or picks and no one bit. So I'm going to lose these players outright.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Holy s***, how many teams? lol
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Holy s***, how many teams? lol 12. But I'm by far the most active. I've grabbed basically ever top breakout player and used them to upgrade. Like I grabbed McClanahan, Michael Harris II, Pasquautino, Lodolo, Gunnar Henderson, Moreno, etc and used them in trades. Some of the teams didn't even use the waiver wire at all. It's such a frustrating league. I've only traded with about 4 teams because no one else is active. I also got very lucky in buying low on players. Bregman was coming off a 120wrc season 2 years prior, and a 122wrc season the year before. When I traded for him he was hitting .202 with a wRC of 102 and 6 homers in mid-June. I also got Bieber when he was pitching to a 4.50 era for the month of the trade. But I gave up Gunnar Henderson, Lodolo, Moreno+ to get him. So I've lost in trades as well. Lol.
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I also got Soto for Rodon, Taylor Ward (when he was hot), Kelenic, and a 2nd round pick. I actually feel bad about that trade. Never thought he'd actually accept it at the time.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Yeah is keep Kirk and Painter
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Yeah is keep Kirk and Painter Thanks, that's where I'm leaning too.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 In a 12 team league Torkelson can scram. Painter might impact this year. Kirk is squarely in the top half of C.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 I didn’t realize it was an AS team. I would agree with cutting Baz
FantasyNewb Verified Member Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 I didnÂ’t realize it was an AS team. I would agree with cutting Baz Yeah, I got super lucky as I got players like Guerrero and Yordan on the cheap before their breakouts. I got Grayson and Marte for Strasburg and flipped Marte in a package for an upgrade. Like I said, I have such a strong team because I was the only active player. I got Peralta, Rodon, McClanahan, Baz, Witt Jr,. Gunnar Henderson, Moreno, Eury Perez, Kirk, Carroll, Springs, etc all on the waiver wire before their big breakouts.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Yeah, I got super lucky as I got players like Guerrero and Yordan on the cheap before their breakouts. I got Grayson and Marte for Strasburg and flipped Marte in a package for an upgrade. Like I said, I have such a strong team because I was the only active player. I got Peralta, Rodon, McClanahan, Baz, Witt Jr,. Gunnar Henderson, Moreno, Eury Perez, Kirk, Carroll, Springs, etc all on the waiver wire before their big breakouts. Witt Jr and Carroll should have never been available off waivers
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