Rays designate Heath Bell for assignment

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

Anyone want? LOL

[flafson]

He is owed like 9 mil, no thanks.

[GD]

not thread worthy

[ElNik2013]

Sign him AA, do it!

[dineke]

He'll fit in.

[jaysblue]

His xFIP was 4.73 and he posted a 3.64 SIERA. He wasn't that bad as his 7 ERA suggested. His 9.87 K/9 last season was very good and I'd take a flier on him for the MLB minimum.

[jays4life19]

Small sample size total overreaction!

 

Friedman wasted $9M of his $77M payroll on a reliever, and one he booted after a month. He should totally be fired and banned from the board!

 

Someone explain sabermetrics to this guy, he obviously knows nothing!

 

Maddon misused him. He doesn't know nuffin. Fire him!

 

They were paying him 5.5 million.

[John_Havok]

His K's are down, walks and ground balls are up, strand rate is awful and will likely improve...still preventing HR nicely.

 

Wouldn't be a terrible pickup for someone, as most of the numbers should regress and he'd still be serviceable. Not upper tier or anything, but an okay pen arm.

[Boxcar]

What is this f***ing trash?

 

A moogy post. Are you new? Also, could people stop quoting this self righteous prick?

[G-Snarls]

He was the price they paid to get a very good catcher in Hanigan, they don't care what happens to him.

 

I'm sure they care about the wasted money

[G-Snarls]

I wonder if he's mildly injured or something, velo on all his pitches is down a lot more than it should be for this time of year, can't hit the zone, sw str% way down.

 

 

 

What is this f***ing trash?

 

It's Moogy's sarcastic way of poking fun at the people who complain about the Jays and make it sound like everyone in Tampa walks on water

[GD]

Pretty sure the deal still had surplus value for the Rays.

[GD]

Try again, JFaS.

 

Why should he bother when you seem to think that the Rays made an effort to acquire Heath Bell?

[G-Snarls]

bringing balance to the force, Moogy is

[GD]

oi vey

[Nox]

That deal was always about Hannigan. After seeing that Bell has lost 2 ticks on his fastball this year you don't project him as a slightly above replacement level reliever anymore. Because of that, he was cut to clear a roster spot. Not sure what is at all surprising/controversial about this.

[Nox]

Exactly. One month into an acquisition, if a guy has some reduced velo, you cut him. That's what you do. Especially if you're a reclamation project ninja.

 

If a veteran, replacement level reliever shows a month of slightly reduced velo combined with terrible results, I don't know why you wouldn't release him.

 

Even the half tick of velo down aside, I'm not even sure why you wouldn't release him. With public information, he projects to add no value going forward. Their internal reports and projections must agree.

 

This was never a reclamation project.

[GD]

I think the Rays' thinking in signing Balfour was to let him accumulate saves and then selling him off for prospects to a contender that needs bullpen help. Don't know if it will work but I think that's why they signed him.

[GD]

Holy s***. It never ends. It's really like walking into a church of fundamentalists and trying to have a discussion about whether God exists.

 

Eh, I'd get really angry at your trolling or something, but your posts are okay sometimes. So, uh, f*** you ur dumn or whatever.

[Nox]

But I'm having trouble finding Balfour on the waiver wire. (Waiver) wires must have been crossed. He's an old replacement level reliever (0.1 WAR over the last year + a month), whose velo has dropped 1.7 mph so far this year, compared to last year's full season velo (and, he actually is pitching slower in the season's first month+ as compared to last season's first month+, unlike Bell).

 

The Balfour signing was terrible. Won't begin to defend that. Neither will others will knowledge of that situation.

 

Cutting Balfour today would be completely justifiable if they faced some sort of roster crunch. Like I said before, you don't have to try too hard to find a 3.9 ERA/FIP/Whatever reliever for league min.

[TheHurl]

Of course it wasn't a reclamation project. That's why they used him early and often in competitive games and some high leverage and late inning situations.

 

And, outside of the first less-than-a-handful of appearances in the very beginning of the year, his velo wasn't even down compared to last year.

 

But I'm having trouble finding Balfour on the waiver wire. (Waiver) wires must have been crossed. He's an old replacement level reliever (0.1 WAR over the last year + a month), whose velo has dropped 1.7 mph so far this year, compared to last year's full season velo (and, he actually is pitching slower in the season's first month+ as compared to last season's first month+, unlike Bell).

 

Is the Rays be stoopit for not waiving the other guy who has given them no reason to keep him? Did they not want Balfour either, when they signed him to a FA contract this offseason?

 

Let's just try to be normal, reasonable people here, and not attach our belief structure to the decision-making of a particular organization, just because we've absent-mindedly decided they are a proxy for all that is good and holy in saberworld, and that they are infallible. It's not promoting your cause ... it's actually harming it. Step away from the cup o' Kool Aid for a second and just admit the Rays can get all retarded up in here, as well.

 

Funny you use that example. I got 2 texts from Rays fans questioning what they were thinking with the Balfour signing. One calling it "retarded".

 

As for Bell's velocity...his FB was down enough that he wasn't using it nearly as much...and his change was up in Velocity so much that there was barely a difference between them. They asked him to abandon the change (especially when he started throwing change up's faster than his FB, not to mention the whole not throwing anything for strikes thing). He still wasn't effective so they got rid of him. I know you are just trying to stir up trouble here but I thought I'd reply anyway.