Spoonovic Verified Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I saw someone mention the term “Seitzer approach” in the game thread. What exactly is the approach he is teaching? Outside of the Jays trade/free-agent rumors I avoided all the other Jays offseason stories.
mitchf Verified Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I saw someone mention the term “Seitzer approach” in the game thread. What exactly is the approach he is teaching? Outside of the Jays trade/free-agent rumors I avoided all the other Jays offseason stories. How about we just reference the "Seitzer approach" every time we see an opposite field hit or somebody raising their OBP. It's more fun that way.
LunchBox Verified Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 How about we just reference the "Seitzer approach" every time we see an opposite field hit or somebody raising their OBP. It's more fun that way. There seems to be some misunderstanding of what Seitzer means by "going the other way" or "spraying the ball", it's clearly a reference to a week of gay sex in his living room with Goins, not opposite-field hitting.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I love April. Three games, in which the team has scored 7 runs, and we're all "ZOMG SEITZER EFFECT". If the team loses to Arccher and Tanaka, fans will be jumping off a bridge. In all fairness, i could probably count on one hand how many times the offense ran up the pitch count in selective fashion like they did in the last two games against two top notch starters. Scoring only 7 runs in three games doesn't necessarily tell the tale,as they left loads of runners on base the last two games. Coincidence? Maybe,we need a larger sample.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 i saw someone mention the term “seitzer approach” in the game thread. What exactly is the approach he is teaching? "hit dat ball"
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 In all fairness, i could probably count on one hand how many times the offense ran up the pitch count in selective fashion like they did in the last two games against two top notch starters. Scoring only 7 runs in three games doesn't necessarily tell the tale,as they left loads of runners on base the last two games. Coincidence? Maybe,we need a larger sample. This
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 There's no such thing as a "Seitzer approach" or a "Murphy approach" or a "Mottola approach". Most people who use blanket terms like that know absolutely nothing about any kind of coaching, and it's usually the same people that blame won and lost seasons on managers (in other words, everything but the players). A coach (at least a decent one) will have a different approach to every single player, and that's how it is in most cases. That's why everybody has a different swing and a different stance and a different follow-through. Yes, some guys might just generally think that being a patient hitter is better than being an overly aggressive one, that just makes them a smart coach, it doesn't mean they teach every player the same approach.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I love April. Three games, in which the team has scored 7 runs, and we're all "ZOMG SEITZER EFFECT". If the team loses to Arccher and Tanaka, fans will be jumping off a bridge. They scored 9 runs. Don't short change them. BTW your rays only scored 11 runs.
Caper Verified Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I love April. Three games, in which the team has scored 7 runs, and we're all "ZOMG SEITZER EFFECT". If the team loses to Arccher and Tanaka, fans will be jumping off a bridge. It's about approach... Which is measurably better. Of course we are going to lose games.... But there are many very good abs going on.
Caper Verified Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 There's no such thing as a "Seitzer approach" or a "Murphy approach" or a "Mottola approach". Most people who use blanket terms like that know absolutely nothing about any kind of coaching, and it's usually the same people that blame won and lost seasons on managers (in other words, everything but the players). A coach (at least a decent one) will have a different approach to every single player, and that's how it is in most cases. That's why everybody has a different swing and a different stance and a different follow-through. Yes, some guys might just generally think that being a patient hitter is better than being an overly aggressive one, that just makes them a smart coach, it doesn't mean they teach every player the same approach. Not true.. Murph had one message to all the hitters. "Grip it and rip it".... The Seitzer approach is patience... he who waits will be rewarded.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Not true.. Murph had one message to all the hitters. "Grip it and rip it".... The Seitzer approach is patience... he who waits will be rewarded. I don't think Seitzer's approach can be narrowed down to "patience." He wants the same thing any of the last 3 hitting coaches want the Jays to do, go up with a plan and stick to it until you get to two strikes. The difference in Seitzer is he's trying to convince guys like Edwin, Jose, Rasmus (ie dead pull hitters) that if you're at two strikes and you need to protect the strike zone, you can't take a home run cut on a borderline pitch, just use a controlled swing, get a piece of it and fould it off, or if it's against a shift, go the other way with it for a dinky single instead of coming out of your shoes and popping it up 200 feet. He's also trying to explain to these guys that not every pitch is going to be a fastball and they need to be more selective in what they swing at with less than two strikes. Just because it's in the strike zone doesn't mean you have to swing, unless there's 2 strikes.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Seitzer's approach is to have Mark Buehrle pitch career-best games every single night.
BluejayEd Verified Member Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 In all fairness, i could probably count on one hand how many times the offense ran up the pitch count in selective fashion like they did in the last two games against two top notch starters. Scoring only 7 runs in three games doesn't necessarily tell the tale,as they left loads of runners on base the last two games. Coincidence? Maybe,we need a larger sample. So much this. I dont post much but I watch a lot of Jays games and I would agree overall their approach seems to look better, Still early
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 The ball games that ensume, will tell a tale. What does this even mean?
cusstown Verified Member Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Not true.. Murph had one message to all the hitters. "Grip it and rip it".... The Seitzer approach is patience... he who waits will be rewarded. So he has the "Gary Denbo approach" then. How well did that work out? Or Mottolla's approach?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 The ball games that ensume, will tell a tale. ITYM "ensue"
Anemic0ffense Verified Member Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 /BUMP Swing at balls that bounce in the dirt Hack, hack, hack Probably something like that... But in all seriousness, no coach can save this sorry lineup of hitters
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Yeah, not sure how you teach pitch recognition to guys who've played baseball this long. I really do think these guys believe that every other pitch is guaranteed to be a mistake fastball and they decide beforehand whether to swing or not.
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