Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Trade for Villar? He's kind of gross.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 He's kind of gross. You're right. I thought he at least had a favourable split but not even. He's gross from both sides.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 You're right. I thought he at least had a favourable split but not even. He's gross from both sides. And check out his UZR (sss but scouting reports considered him fringe). He's kind of like a Junior Lake that never got moved off the position
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 and check out his uzr (sss but scouting reports considered him fringe). He's kind of like a junior lake that never got moved off the position all in on tortilla!
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Come on AA, bring in Toritani.
Scion Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Shi Davidi was just on MLB Now and speculated that the Jays have between 5-7M in payroll room left.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Shi Davidi was just on MLB Now and speculated that the Jays have between 5-7M in payroll room left. Sounds about right with the buyouts they have. Should be able to unload Navarro so really its closer to 12 million.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Shi Davidi was just on MLB Now and speculated that the Jays have between 5-7M in payroll room left. Gross, what happened to there being no payroll restrictions
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Gross, what happened to there being no payroll restrictions Have to factor in buyouts for next season, Canadian dollar plummeting will make revenue for the coming season go down at least 5-10%
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Have to factor in buyouts for next season, Canadian dollar plummeting will make revenue for the coming season go down at least 5-10% props to Rogers still convincing people with their ******** excuses
Scion Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Gross, what happened to there being no payroll restrictions 140M is more than enough to field a winner.
baseballsss Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 props to Rogers still convincing people with their ******** excuses Lol at the fact people are still bitching about rogers not ponying up money. We have more then a high enough payroll to win.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Have to factor in buyouts for next season, Canadian dollar plummeting will make revenue for the coming season go down at least 5-10% Rogers, like most Canadian teams, hedges against the Canadian dollar, making it a non-issue, and the dollar will likely rebound within a few months once oil prices stop falling and the US dollar starts to drop. The buyouts are more an issue, though. Toronto is currently at a *projected* $127.5M before benefits. Thankfully after this coming season, Ricky Romero comes off the books, along with Mark Buehrle.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 ^Dodgers making too many transactions.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Way more than I thought he would get. I thought he'd be looking at getting more like 5M if he was lucky (including incentives).
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 140M is more than enough to field a winner. Yes and no. If you already have big chunks of that tied up in over-valued players, under-performers, aging guys, then maybe not.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Dodger sign P Brett Anderson to a 1/$10M contract with incentives. WTF?
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Shi & Co. speculate all the time about the Jays payroll and are rarely right. AA has done enough payroll-manipulating maneuvers (heavily backloading Martin's deal, trading Lind and Happ, etc.) that I think he still has the resources neccessary to add stuff. Navarro's $5MM could easily be shed too. This is how I tend to look at this as well. Shi & co. are decent reads, but they're under an obvious obligation to keep the traffic flowing to the Sportsnet page. Their analyses really aren't that much different than what some of the more baseball-business savvy posters on this board would put together. And yeah, the payroll maneuvers suggest the attempt to land as many effective pieces as possible. I tend to think he'll need to resort to trades at this point, as guys are flying off the FA shelf now. Who knows what's coming when it comes to AA? Most trades have build up, but AA's seem to just happen. The last one I can recall being in the news before it was actually news was the Dickey move.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Wow, never thought Anderson would get that much.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Yes and no. If you already have big chunks of that tied up in over-valued players, under-performers, aging guys, then maybe not. Luckily, most of the bad contracts outside of Reyes come off the books after 2015.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 This is how I tend to look at this as well. Shi & co. are decent reads, but they're under an obvious obligation to keep the traffic flowing to the Sportsnet page. And yeah, the payroll maneuvers suggest the attempt to land as many effective pieces as possible. I tend to think he'll need to resort to trades at this point, as guys are flying off the FA shelf now. Who knows what's coming when it comes to AA? Most trades have build up, but AA's seem to just happen. The last one I can recall being in the news before it was actually news was the Dickey move. Shi is the only media person who I believe has ANY inside knowledge, so if he says this, I tend to believe it has some merit.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Guess that Masterson contract really gave him a strong case.
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Shi is the only media person who I believe has ANY inside knowledge, so if he says this, I tend to believe it has some merit. Why do you believe he specifically has insider knowledge? I follow him on Twitter and usually take a peek at his pieces, but he's always just struck me as a guy who just knows his business well enough to make reasonable predictions.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Kershaw Greinke Ryu McCarthy Anderson has to be the best rotation in baseball. Providing McCarthy and Anderson stay healthy. Both of them have a checkered injury history.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 10 mil for a guy who's averaged what 40ish innings per year the last 4 years is a gamble most clubs can not afford to make.
Slot Machine Verified Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Shi & Co. speculate all the time about the Jays payroll and are rarely right. AA has done enough payroll-manipulating maneuvers (heavily backloading Martin's deal, trading Lind and Happ, etc.) that I think he still has the resources neccessary to add stuff. Navarro's $5MM could easily be shed too. Plus, didn't Beeston say payroll was going up before the off-season? What was the team payroll last season 143mil? I suppose AA could be saving some money for the trade deadline.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Kershaw Greinke Ryu McCarthy Anderson has to be the best rotation in baseball. Only real competition would be the Nats. Strasburg Zimmerman Gio Fister ROARK!/Treinen/Jordan/Cole
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Plus, didn't Beeston say payroll was going up before the off-season? What was the team payroll last season 143mil? I suppose AA could be saving some money for the trade deadline. I wouldn't put it past Beest to turn the fact that the backloaded contracts are kicking in into "we have more money to spend" to appease the hype train.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Rogers, like most Canadian teams, hedges against the Canadian dollar, making it a non-issue, and the dollar will likely rebound within a few months once oil prices stop falling and the US dollar starts to drop. The buyouts are more an issue, though. Toronto is currently at a *projected* $127.5M before benefits. Thankfully after this coming season, Ricky Romero comes off the books, along with Mark Buehrle. When the majority of your revenue is in Canadian Dollars it is still going to cause you to lose money even if you do hedge..
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 10 million seems way too much for Anderson. The guy has been a non factor now for 4 seasons. I would of much rather signed Morrow for similar money.
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