Jays and Rays discussing a trade involving Encarnacion and Price??

[Daniel Labude]

Why not trade Bautista...makes so much more sense!

[HERPDERP]

Please no.

 

David Price is massively overrated and the numbers show a probably decline. Let alone he isn't controllable.

 

E5 is the league's most underrated players and he is a special slugger in that he simply doesn't strike out for a huge power guy.

 

Mannn.

 

Can you believe we let E5 go a few years ago? And now, possibly, he may be the centre of a huge deal?

[NorthOf49]

Fuuuuck. This better be fake.

[bzapple]

Sorry, what's the source on this?

[Holden Caulfield]

I love this. Do whatever it takes to get Price. An elite pitcher is harder to come by than a 1B/DH type.

[Abomination]

Choo just makers way too much in the 2-slot for AA to not pursue him. Of course he's a Boras client and top tier free agent so the Jays wont even consider it.

 

I don't know how anyone else feels, but I suspect Choo is going to get paid a LOT more for a LOT longer than any team should be comfortable giving him. I'd much rather give 16-17M / year for 5 years to Jimenez than 20+M / year for 7 years to Choo.

[Sammy225]

Sell off Bau for pitching (before his value goes down), Sign ChooChoo, and you are laughing.

 

Just me though.

[Sammy225]

sarcasm?

 

Just dumb.

[Angrioter]

Ben Nicholson-Smith

Anthopoulos wouldn't say if Jays would bid for Tanaka, but he made it clear that they'd have dialogue about all top arms.

[Terminator]

Please no.

 

David Price is massively overrated and the numbers show a probably decline. Let alone he isn't controllable.

 

E5 is the league's most underrated players and he is a special slugger in that he simply doesn't strike out for a huge power guy.

 

Mannn.

 

Can you believe we let E5 go a few years ago? And now, possibly, he may be the centre of a huge deal?

 

Price has two years of control left and EE has three, right?

[DuckDuckGose]

I love this. Do whatever it takes to get Price. An elite pitcher is harder to come by than a 1B/DH type.

 

Just, simply not true.

[G-Snarls]

Reyes - Choo - JB - Edwin?

 

LOL

 

We wish

[Angrioter]

Price has two years of control left and EE has three, right?

 

Price down, Edwin up

[Abomination]

Ew and ew

 

Neither is obviously ideal, but Choo strikes me as a complete disaster waiting to happen - possibly worse than the A-Rod / Pujols / Hamilton / Fielder deals when all is said and done. Jimenez I think is under-rated (but won't be underpaid).

[Holden Caulfield]

sarcasm?

 

How many more years do you think Edwin has before he begins to decline? If the choice is between trading him to acquire a legitimate pitcher who we will probably be able to resign once all these other contracts come off the books, and then having to be a little creative to replace his production, or spending a ludicrous amount of money on a Jimenez/Garza type and retaining Edwin and hoping he continues to produce, I'm taking the former. By next offseason people will be wanting to trade Edwin before he loses all his value like people want to do with Bautista right now.

[DuckDuckGose]

I don't know how anyone else feels, but I suspect Choo is going to get paid a LOT more for a LOT longer than any team should be comfortable giving him. I'd much rather give 16-17M / year for 5 years to Jimenez than 20+M / year for 7 years to Choo.

 

I think you're looking at 6yr ~$18M AAV for Choo, I think you'd have to be insane to offer anything close to that to Ulbaldo, rumours are he's already been offered 5yrs $17M so he'll get at least that IMO.

[Angrioter]

Davidi ‏

AA repeats #BlueJays focused on SP through trade, feels FA Ps with comp may drag into Jan, indicates new posting system may open Tanaka bid.

 

As we imagined, little money to invest; this makes that the Marlins trade look even worse (Reyes, Buehrle)

[Smokey]

You guys are all a bunch of negative nellies. Targeting overpriced former Cy Young award winners is clearly the new market inefficiency... Alex is doing his job.

[G-Snarls]

Please no.

 

David Price is massively overrated and the numbers show a probably decline. Let alone he isn't controllable.

 

E5 is the league's most underrated players and he is a special slugger in that he simply doesn't strike out for a huge power guy

 

I refuse to watch Edwin put up an 8+ WAR season in Tampa

[bzapple]

Okay seriously

[HERPDERP]

Price has two years of control left and EE has three, right?

 

Yes, 2 more years left on his extension, plus a $10m club option.

[havok24]

"We loved Edwin and Stroman, but our starting pitching has been a bit of a weak spot for us, and we couldn't pass on the opportunity to add a CY Young caliber pitcher in David Price. Two seasons ago he won the CY Young award while pitching in the American League East, and from our standpoint that speaks volumes about his skill level and character as a human being. This trade was a tough decision from our standpoint, but we felt that the intangibles that David will bring to our ball club will be well worth the value we gave up in both Edwin and Marcus. This is a guy who has been around winners his whole life. From Joe Maddon to Longoria to Andrew Friedman himself and so forth, we feel he has been instructed to play the game the right way and we see tremendous value in that. This is also a guy who happens to be one of the most colourful personalities in the twitter universe, and with the recent loss of JPA, we felt the need to replenish that within the clubhouse. When we found out he was available, we went to Beest, and without hesitation he told us to do it. That's the commitment we have from ownership - we identified a piece that we needed and had the means to go out and get it."

 

-AA

[DuckDuckGose]

Price has two years of control left and EE has three, right?

 

EE has 3 seasons $29M left on his deal and Price is under control for the same amount of time but even though he is subjected to the arb process for three more seasons will make more than EE.

[TRM]

Choo is on No49's DDL roster. He is NOT overrated

[G-Snarls]

EE is the third best true talent hitter in the game behind Cabrera and Trout. Price is NOT elite.

 

Don't tell HIM that

 

 

Trust me I don't want sympathy…I got beat tonight…so be it..I'll bounce back…3x ALLSTAR…2 time player choice…runner up cy…AND CY—*

David Price (@DAVIDprice14)October 06, 2013

[HERPDERP]

If people hated Arencibia because of his propensity to bitch out on twitter, how about Price?

 

-Price bitching about Hayhurst & nerds

-Price being sexist

-Price bitching about Ortiz

[DuckDuckGose]

How many more years do you think Edwin has before he begins to decline? If the choice is between trading him to acquire a legitimate pitcher who we will probably be able to resign once all these other contracts come off the books, and then having to be a little creative to replace his production, or spending a ludicrous amount of money on a Jimenez/Garza type and retaining Edwin and hoping he continues to produce, I'm taking the former. By next offseason people will be wanting to trade Edwin before he loses all his value like people want to do with Bautista right now.

 

How many more years before Price is declining? How many more until he blows out of his arm. Pitchers carry significantly more risk than hitters. Edwin is a top 10 hitter. Price isn't even a top 30 talent. You're just plain wrong on many levels here.

[Terminator]

EE is the third best true talent hitter in the game behind Cabrera and Trout. Price is NOT elite.

 

Price has had a better WAR than EE in every single year since 2009, Price's first full season in MLB.

 

Of course, a player's value isn't merely tied to talent alone, you have to figure in contract situations and that's when things begin to tilt more toward EE but this isn't as bad of a structured deal as everyone makes it seem.

[Holden Caulfield]

EE is the third best true talent hitter in the game behind Cabrera and Trout. Price is NOT elite.

 

Oh, I wasn't aware that Edwin was the third best hitter in Major League Baseball. I guess that would change my opinion of the deal then.

[DuckDuckGose]

]We loved Edwin and Stroman' date=' but our starting pitching has been a bit of a weak spot for us, and we couldn't pass on the opportunity to add a CY Young caliber pitcher in David Price.[/b'] Two seasons ago he won the CY Young award while pitching in the American League East, and from our standpoint that speaks volumes about his skill level and character as a human being. This trade was a tough decision from our standpoint, but we felt that the intangibles that David will bring to our ball club will be well worth the value we gave up in both Edwin and Marcus. This is a guy who has been around winners his whole life. From Joe Maddon to Longoria to Andrew Friedman himself and so forth, we feel he has been instructed to play the game the right way and we see tremendous value in that. This is also a guy who happens to be one of the most colourful personalities in the twitter universe, and with the recent loss of JPA, we felt the need to replenish that within the clubhouse. When we found out he was available, we went to Beest, and without hesitation he told us to do it. That's the commitment we have from ownership - we identified a piece that we needed and had the means to go out and get it."

 

This is how you end up moving Synder and d'Arnaud for Dickey