Caper Verified Member Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 I think it's big news that he is going to be hanging around Dunedin this spring... Man if he can transfer even 10% of that mental tuffness to a guy like Drabek:
labadee Verified Member Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Best offseason signing so far
KevinGregg Verified Member Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Idiotic statement.. the team was probably a .500 team during his tenure.. I suppose the extra .159 was luck right? Comparing team wins to pitcher wins is what is idiotic. 2 completely different stats, apples and oranges. What idiot decided to give them the same name?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 <----------- Happy Retirement Doc! Love the new avatar
bendera3 Verified Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Sad face Ugh! So sad. I wonder if he'd be willing to work with RR.
Jays Verified Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Get him on the weighted balls.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Get him on the weighted balls. Nah, let him ride off into the sunset. He had a great career, I don't want to watch a subpar version of Doc. He did the right thing.
Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Man would have been cool to see a comeback from him in a Jays uniform.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Man would have been cool to see a comeback from him in a Jays uniform. Yep. But wasn't in the cards.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Whether it's "elite" or not it's pretty much meaningless. I don't think it means much but I also don't think it's meaningless over that large of a sample size, and considering the kind of teams he pitched for.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Sure was no Ace dealt..... Hehe. So to speak. He sure used to be one. Would have been sad to see him as like 6th starter for the Jays and having a bad year in 2014. He made the right decision.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 It wouldn't hurt him to try the weighted balls anyways, even if he has retired. It could help him regain some health and strength, and there's always the small chance that he suddenly gets it all back and decides to return for a victory lap the way Pettitte did. Maybe finally get himself that ring. If not, there's nothing to lose with that program. If he's coaching his kids, it's a great tool for him to become familiarized with; even Delabar's main reason for trying that program was to eventually teach it to the kids he was coaching.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I like your twisted logic here The Jays are secretly rehabbing Halladay into a beast next year in a secret underground facility near his home. no one sees him all of 2014. 12 months from now he signs a 1 year 5 million dollar deal with the Jays and announces his unexpected return 2015 Blue Jays win the World Series with a rotation of Halladay Price Dickey Stroman and Morrow Allow me to dream here.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 He'll un-retire, Roger Clemens style.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Get him some hgh asap. Whatever Bartolo Colon's having?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Whatever Bartolo Colon's having? Whatever Clemens used when he was a beast at 40 If you can still get it...
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 On second thought, scratch that. Doc would never cheat. I honestly believe that.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 If I'm Halladay, I think I look to stay in reasonable shape and go on the weighted ball program. Take a full year away, then come into spring next year and see where things stand. If the velocity still isn't there, it isn't there. Maybe the time away and strengthening finish off the surgery rehab though.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 I like your twisted logic here The Jays are secretly rehabbing Halladay into a beast next year in a secret underground facility near his home. no one sees him all of 2014. 12 months from now he signs a 1 year 5 million dollar deal with the Jays and announces his unexpected return 2015 Blue Jays win the World Series with a rotation of Halladay Price Dickey Stroman and Morrow Allow me to dream here. And with an offense that would be laughed at by the 2008 and 1996 squads with EE gone, traded for Price
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 I don't think it means much but I also don't think it's meaningless over that large of a sample size, and considering the kind of teams he pitched for. This point here...except I do think it means much. Saying his winning percentage is meaningless because it's an old school stat that is impacted a lot by your teammates may make sense over 1 or 2 seasons...not over a full career. Freaking guys just throw out words like meaningless regardless of context just because it's not a cool baseball stat that turns walks, strikeouts and IP into a physics equation...geez.
Key22 Verified Member Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Roy Halladay the Knuckleballer
fireballW Verified Member Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 If I'm Halladay, I think I look to stay in reasonable shape and go on the weighted ball program. Take a full year away, then come into spring next year and see where things stand. If the velocity still isn't there, it isn't there. Maybe the time away and strengthening finish off the surgery rehab though. My same thoughts. Weighted ball program, try it out for a year and see how it goes. He's a competitor and he's not so old. There is a chance he is satisfied with his career, but I think he still has some unfinished business.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 My same thoughts. Weighted ball program, try it out for a year and see how it goes. He's a competitor and he's not so old. There is a chance he is satisfied with his career, but I think he still has some unfinished business. The weighted ball program is great for the shoulder...but does nothing for the back....Doc's problem's were not his shoulder as much as they were his back....and back issues are not easy ones to deal with...he's retired...hopefully he can move on to a new fulfilling chapter in helping the blue jays pitchers become better pitchers....
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Sad to see Halladay go, but pure class as always to retire as a Jay. He was my favourite player growing up even though we couldn't even watch Jays game at the time, I wear the number 32 when playing any sport (mainly baseball of course) because of him. Outstanding pitcher and professional, hope as well he comes back as a pitching coach and certainly wish he gets inducted into the Hall, and like many have said been one of the most dominant pitchers in your generation will go a long way towards his consideration.
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